Andy9o8 0 #76 December 19, 2007 One of the things the Texas statute allows someone to use deadly force to stop is criminal mischief, both to one's own home or to the property of another. In Texas, criminal mischief is defined as follows: § 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner: (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner; (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner. Translation: In Texas, if some vandal is spray-painting grafitti on your garage door, you can shoot him to death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #77 December 19, 2007 QuoteOne of the things the Texas statute allows someone to use deadly force to stop is criminal mischief, both to one's own home or to the property of another. In Texas, criminal mischief is defined as follows: § 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner: (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner; (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner. Translation: In Texas, if some vandal is spray-painting grafitti on your garage door, you can shoot him to death. Actually you shoot to stop. If he dies, oh well. The solution--don't fuck with others or their property.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeVoll 0 #78 December 19, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne of the things the Texas statute allows someone to use deadly force to stop is criminal mischief, both to one's own home or to the property of another. In Texas, criminal mischief is defined as follows: § 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner: (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner; (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner. Translation: In Texas, if some vandal is spray-painting grafitti on your garage door, you can shoot him to death. Actually you shoot to stop. If he dies, oh well. The solution--don't fuck with others or their property. Thank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,169 #79 December 19, 2007 I would suggest reading the dz.com rules. Personally, I don't have any stuff that's worth killing over, and I'm not about to be judge and jury. Honest self-defense is a different story. Going to where you're likely to need self-defense, particularly if you kind of hope that it turns out that way, is not really cool. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #80 December 19, 2007 Thank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? QuoteThe liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,169 #81 December 19, 2007 Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. OK, that's funny . But, just to be pedantic, c/liberals/some liberals Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DeVoll 0 #82 December 19, 2007 Good thing im not trying to be cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DeVoll 0 #83 December 19, 2007 Quote Thank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. O so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DeVoll 0 #84 December 19, 2007 BY the way that was not a personal attach, that was just an observation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #85 December 19, 2007 QuoteThank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? Tsk Tsk Tsk... I just find it funny that so many Texicans find it morally acceptable to kill a fellow human being for some of the stupidest possible reasons. Not very christian of you bible belters.. but we are used to that level of hypocrisy.... but I doubt the lord will be as forgiving to those who exercise their legal right to murder another human being. So basically you dont have a valid arguement....and are just aching to shoot someone... so you make a personal attack instead of a valid arguement... to someone pointing out your hypocrisy...SWEET.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #86 December 19, 2007 Enjoy your 30 day vacation from Speakers Corner.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #87 December 19, 2007 Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. I have voted for republicans in the past.. Nixon and Reagan come to mind.. and in both cases I was wrong.... Nixon... I am not a crook..... a pathological paranoid Reagan... "Sorry Mommy I slept thru that briefing on the whole Iran affair to support the Contras"... Plausible deniability for him... while a bunch of right wing idiots were running an illegal war with a wink and a nod from the Vice PresidentBoth turned out to be complete disappointments. There used to be moderate republicans locally that I voted for.. but nowadays.. you get religious whackos spouting right wing dogma on every issue.... and are so far from the center they could pass muster in any South American Fascist country in their policies. So no... I can assure you... I have not voted for anyone with an R attached to their name since the late 80's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #88 December 19, 2007 QuoteReagan... "Sorry Mommy I slept thru that briefing on the whole Iran affair to support the Contras"... Plausible deniability for him... while a bunch of right wing idiots were running an illegal war with a wink and a nod from the Vice President Both turned out to be complete disappointments.And all you can see is one bad thing. I quess that you wish the USSR still had a stranglehold on 1/3 of Europe. Socialism is da bomb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #89 December 19, 2007 Oh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself....sorry.. when reality comes to visit you.. get back to us.....mmmmkkkkkk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,679 #90 December 20, 2007 Quote Oh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself.... Only because Maggie Thatcher told him to.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #91 December 20, 2007 QuoteOh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself.... sorry.. when reality comes to visit you.. get back to us.....mmmmkkkkkk In my little world, when the team wins, the coach gets the credit, not the water boy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #92 December 20, 2007 Quote In my little world, when the team wins, the coach gets the credit, not the water boy. DUDE.. the COACH was asleep most of the time after he was shot..hell even the SUGAR BUZZ from the Jelly beans was not enough to keep him awake....he was nothing more than a figurehead for the assholes in the basement who were really running the country Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #93 December 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne of the things the Texas statute allows someone to use deadly force to stop is criminal mischief, both to one's own home or to the property of another. In Texas, criminal mischief is defined as follows: § 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner: (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner; (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner. Translation: In Texas, if some vandal is spray-painting grafitti on your garage door, you can shoot him to death. Executing him in cold blood just for vandalism or theft might be a bit much. I should be allowed to use the gun to detain him and if he runs I should not be obliged to break a sweat chasing him or risk tackling him. I should be allowed to try to shoot for the legs (yeah I know, you don't shoot for legs but if he is unarmed and running away I don't wish to be excessive) My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #94 December 20, 2007 Was that in the statute on use of deadly force, as well?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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wmw999 2,169 #81 December 19, 2007 Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. OK, that's funny . But, just to be pedantic, c/liberals/some liberals Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeVoll 0 #82 December 19, 2007 Good thing im not trying to be cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeVoll 0 #83 December 19, 2007 Quote Thank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. O so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeVoll 0 #84 December 19, 2007 BY the way that was not a personal attach, that was just an observation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #85 December 19, 2007 QuoteThank god some people have since. Im tired of hearing that old bag of a woman (with a cat) ramble on with here liberal message. By the way how did you get so bitter cat woman (Amazon)????? Tsk Tsk Tsk... I just find it funny that so many Texicans find it morally acceptable to kill a fellow human being for some of the stupidest possible reasons. Not very christian of you bible belters.. but we are used to that level of hypocrisy.... but I doubt the lord will be as forgiving to those who exercise their legal right to murder another human being. So basically you dont have a valid arguement....and are just aching to shoot someone... so you make a personal attack instead of a valid arguement... to someone pointing out your hypocrisy...SWEET.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #86 December 19, 2007 Enjoy your 30 day vacation from Speakers Corner.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #87 December 19, 2007 Quote The liberals say that if you make a big deal about homosexuality, you're probably gay. I see a closet Republican in our midst. Come on out , Amazon. Embrace your true self. I have voted for republicans in the past.. Nixon and Reagan come to mind.. and in both cases I was wrong.... Nixon... I am not a crook..... a pathological paranoid Reagan... "Sorry Mommy I slept thru that briefing on the whole Iran affair to support the Contras"... Plausible deniability for him... while a bunch of right wing idiots were running an illegal war with a wink and a nod from the Vice PresidentBoth turned out to be complete disappointments. There used to be moderate republicans locally that I voted for.. but nowadays.. you get religious whackos spouting right wing dogma on every issue.... and are so far from the center they could pass muster in any South American Fascist country in their policies. So no... I can assure you... I have not voted for anyone with an R attached to their name since the late 80's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #88 December 19, 2007 QuoteReagan... "Sorry Mommy I slept thru that briefing on the whole Iran affair to support the Contras"... Plausible deniability for him... while a bunch of right wing idiots were running an illegal war with a wink and a nod from the Vice President Both turned out to be complete disappointments.And all you can see is one bad thing. I quess that you wish the USSR still had a stranglehold on 1/3 of Europe. Socialism is da bomb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #89 December 19, 2007 Oh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself....sorry.. when reality comes to visit you.. get back to us.....mmmmkkkkkk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #90 December 20, 2007 Quote Oh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself.... Only because Maggie Thatcher told him to.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #91 December 20, 2007 QuoteOh yeah.. Ronnie Ray Gun won the Cold War all by himself.... sorry.. when reality comes to visit you.. get back to us.....mmmmkkkkkk In my little world, when the team wins, the coach gets the credit, not the water boy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #92 December 20, 2007 Quote In my little world, when the team wins, the coach gets the credit, not the water boy. DUDE.. the COACH was asleep most of the time after he was shot..hell even the SUGAR BUZZ from the Jelly beans was not enough to keep him awake....he was nothing more than a figurehead for the assholes in the basement who were really running the country Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #93 December 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne of the things the Texas statute allows someone to use deadly force to stop is criminal mischief, both to one's own home or to the property of another. In Texas, criminal mischief is defined as follows: § 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner: (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner; (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner. Translation: In Texas, if some vandal is spray-painting grafitti on your garage door, you can shoot him to death. Executing him in cold blood just for vandalism or theft might be a bit much. I should be allowed to use the gun to detain him and if he runs I should not be obliged to break a sweat chasing him or risk tackling him. I should be allowed to try to shoot for the legs (yeah I know, you don't shoot for legs but if he is unarmed and running away I don't wish to be excessive) My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #94 December 20, 2007 Was that in the statute on use of deadly force, as well?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites