1969912 0 #1 November 17, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2696,00.html "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #2 November 17, 2007 Twats for SWATS ? Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 November 18, 2007 It's fucking New Jersey. What did anyone expect?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccallj 0 #4 November 19, 2007 Weapons were privately owned and they were off the clock. No laws were broken.“Last week I helped my friend stay put. It's a lot easier than helping someone move. I just went over to his house and made sure that he did not start to load his shit into a truck.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #5 November 19, 2007 you get to drive the SWAT van around when you're off the clock? Sounds like the perfect plan to pick up some skanks to me. edited to add: I'm sure they're nice skanks, though .jim "Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #6 November 19, 2007 QuoteWeapons were privately owned and they were off the clock. No laws were broken. Dude, I really fucked up on my post. After seeing what you posted, I realized that my post linked to the pics, but the actual story was on another page. Yep, it was their own guns and they were off duty. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #7 November 19, 2007 So...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #8 November 19, 2007 QuoteSo...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. If it's not illegal and the owner/manger of the restaurant allows it, sure, why not? The weapons should be unloaded of course, and the people playing with them should be told not to ever point a gun at a person, even if it's known to be unloaded. New Jersey has pretty restrictive gun laws. Owners of any firearms must be licensed and permits are required to purchase handguns. It's easy to look up state laws here: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/ "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 November 19, 2007 Quote So...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. Where alchohol was being served, a violation of the law in every state I can think of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #10 November 19, 2007 Quote Quote So...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. Where alchohol was being served, a violation of the law in every state I can think of. Sure you don't mean "bars" as opposed to restaurants where alcohol is not the primary purpose? In WA the restriction only to applies regular bars where you have to be 21 to enter. I'm pretty sure most other states have similar restrictions. NJ may be more restrictive though, which might explain the low rate of gun crimes thereWA restriction: "(d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age." "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #11 November 19, 2007 >Sure you don't mean "bars" as opposed to restaurants where alcohol >is not the primary purpose? Well, as one picture was taken a few feet from a bar, that may be a distinction that doesn't matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #12 November 19, 2007 Regardless of whether or not it was illegal according to the laws of New Jersey, it sends absolutely the wrong message to the general public who will undoubtedly see these pics. Somebody's (hopefully) going to end up with their asses in a sling over these pics. I'm a volunteer firefighter and rescue squad medic. I ALSO am not afraid to stroll into a Hooters and down some beer and wings while the waitresses pretend to be interested in me so I'll tip heavy. But I also understand that these are two parts of my life that just don't mix. Whenever I'm in public I'm painfully aware of where I'm going and what I'm wearing (i.e. clothes that identify me as a firefighter or medic) when I go there. I won't go NEAR a bar in anything that identifies me as either; I won't even buy beer at the grocery store. And I try to remember that it doesn't matter what I think about the establishment, but what the (mostly straight-laced and conservative) public thinks about those establishments. Illegal: maybe, not sure. Very bad form: you got it. Elvisio "stepping down from the soapbox" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #13 November 19, 2007 QuoteRegardless of whether or not it was illegal according to the laws of New Jersey, it sends absolutely the wrong message to the general public who will undoubtedly see these pics. Somebody's (hopefully) going to end up with their asses in a sling over these pics. I'm a volunteer firefighter and rescue squad medic. I ALSO am not afraid to stroll into a Hooters and down some beer and wings while the waitresses pretend to be interested in me so I'll tip heavy. But I also understand that these are two parts of my life that just don't mix. Whenever I'm in public I'm painfully aware of where I'm going and what I'm wearing (i.e. clothes that identify me as a firefighter or medic) when I go there. I won't go NEAR a bar in anything that identifies me as either; I won't even buy beer at the grocery store. And I try to remember that it doesn't matter what I think about the establishment, but what the (mostly straight-laced and conservative) public thinks about those establishments. Illegal: maybe, not sure. Very bad form: you got it. Elvisio "stepping down from the soapbox" Rodriguez I completely agree with what you say regarding them being in uniform. But please note that my comments were limited to the legality of what they did, and were in reply to another post that was limited to the legality. Llimiting my comments to legal issues does not imply that I condone their inappropriate and disrespectful behavior while in uniform. It just wasn't the subject of the post I replied to, nor was it the subject of the post before that one. When in uniform, even off duty, you are representing your department or company to the public and should behave ly.as Did you see the pics of their SWAT van in front of the place with non-Police persons goofing around in it.? Idiots. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #14 November 19, 2007 Great post! ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- Btw, it cuts both ways. This is likely to be the last year for the FDNY Foundation's Calendar of Heroes due to the appearance of the cover firefighter in a porn video. The calendar typically raises ~$150,000 for fire safety training for NYC residents & training equipment for New York’s bravest. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #15 November 20, 2007 You're the only volunteer firefighter I think I've ever heard of that (may) not wear fire fighter-y clothes. But I do bet you've got a "I work where the devil dances" sticker on your car, or the little muscle guy flexing his bicep with his fire helmet on....... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #16 November 21, 2007 QuoteSo...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. The only weapon I saw inside a restaurant was a baton. Did I miss something?I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #17 November 21, 2007 Quote Quote So...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. Where alchohol was being served, a violation of the law in every state I can think of. I hate to challenge your clearly extensive legal background; however, only certain states have laws against possessing a firearm where alcohol is served. To the best of my knowledge, Alabama does not have such a restriction. And again, I don't recall seeing any pictures of firearms inside the restaurant.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #18 November 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. Where alchohol was being served, a violation of the law in every state I can think of. I hate to challenge your clearly extensive legal background; however, only certain states have laws against possessing a firearm where alcohol is served. . Doesn't necessarily make him wrong, maybe he just can't think of all 50 states.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #19 November 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteSo...privately-owned and off duty makes it OK to bring weapons into a public restaurant and let the employees play with them? New Jersey earned it's reputation. The only weapon I saw inside a restaurant was a baton. Did I miss something? Good point. As you know, it probably doesn't matter anyway. All or most states prohibit guns in bars, but very few or none consider a restaurant that serves alcohol to be a bar. If they did, people wouldn't be able to bring their kids to Hooters. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
