turtlespeed 212 #1 July 2, 2007 I am all for police using force to contain a situation, when necessary, but these are kids and it wasn't neccessary! WTF?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 July 2, 2007 WOOP WOOP WOOP This is the repost police, you're under arrest! Go look in Speakers Corner you noob... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #3 July 2, 2007 Dude, seriously, the main reason I am not really fond of cops. I can see if the kids are banging their boards on a car, or something radical, but from what I see they just did some backtalking. You grab a girl like that in front of me, you better fucking watch out. I don't care if you do have a badge!!!!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 632 #4 July 2, 2007 standard dick with a badge and a gun approach in this country...we're ALL criminals when the cops are involved. use of heavy force is the standard approach now...didn't you see the 'roid dealing doctor's office raid by the FBI on tv this past weekend? WHY do you need assault weapons at a Dr's office????? Cops are NOT our friends...EVER! The cops and the courts have WAY more power than our founding leaders ever intended...we have become a police state in the US - did we trade places with communism somehow??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 July 2, 2007 Counting down.. 3 2 1 Hello SC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #6 July 2, 2007 I disagree somewhat. I'm not going to lump a stereo type on to the cops because there are a few bad apples. MOST cops are there doing their best to do what is right. This guy just needs to be on parking duty and moved farther away from the population of humanity.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 632 #7 July 2, 2007 just like the previous reposts on this very subject! seems we're short some moderational skills today though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 July 2, 2007 QuoteCounting down.. 3 2 1 Hello SC Nah... the mods would just delete this, there's already a thread on this over there."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #9 July 2, 2007 A good attorney is going to have a field day with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #10 July 2, 2007 QuoteI am all for police using force to contain a situation, when necessary, but these are kids and it wasn't neccessary! WTF? OK, so I agree that there are many cops out there who abuse their power... Unfortunately, the job seems to attract the sort of person who is obsessed with controlling others. However, there are many cops who really want to protect and serve the public. With respect to this incident, I'd have to see what happened before they started recording to get a better idea of what was really happening. As far as we know those kids could have been taunting that cop for a decent amount of time. Who knows what they were saying/doing... At some point any cop is going to react.Gravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 632 #11 July 2, 2007 yep, you're right .. verbal taunting by teenagers should always be meet with extreme physical violence. especially when you're 3 to 4 times their size.you did see the way he threw them to the ground, right????? what message could that possibly send to teenagers??????? not a parent??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #12 July 2, 2007 Quote yep, you're right .. verbal taunting by teenagers should always be meet with extreme physical violence. especially when you're 3 to 4 times their size.you did see the way he threw them to the ground, right????? what message could that possibly send to teenagers??????? not a parent??? I agree to some degree, but try to look at it from this perspective... There were, although weaker and smaller than the officer, many more potential combatants in very close proximity to the officer. Not that it gives an excuse for being so rough, but I can see how he might have over reacted due to the circumstances. I was playing the devil's advocate... It's also very possible that he's a total asshole and was actually hoping he'd be able to arrest children that day. My main point was that without seeing the events that led up to his reaction, it's difficult to make a 100% accurate determination of how out-of-line his actions were. Also, no, I'm not a cop and I'd never want to be one... One reason why is that there's definitely a wide (although not completely accurate) perception that all cops are assholes. I've met some that are and some that aren't.Gravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #13 July 3, 2007 Quote I disagree somewhat. I'm not going to lump a stereo type on to the cops because there are a few bad apples. MOST cops are there doing their best to do what is right. This guy just needs to be on parking duty and moved farther away from the population of humanity. Parking duty is NOT far away from humanity. Example: The week after my surgery I timed my meter carefully and put in 30 minutes of quarters. I was walking fast back to the car and the police office saw the bandage on my foot and heard me say, "I'm right here sir!" I was literally three feet away when the green clicked to red on the meter. He then wrote me the ticket ignoring me as if I wasn't there, didn't even acknowledge me as I tried to explain why I wasn't moving so fast. Didn't even look at me. That guy in the clip is be bad but I think there are enough assholes in charge of parking violations as it is. K- sorry for the hijack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 July 3, 2007 all parking cops are assholes... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #15 July 3, 2007 Quote yep, you're right .. verbal taunting by teenagers should always be meet with extreme physical violence. especially when you're 3 to 4 times their size. Extreme physical violence? Where? If someone's the victim of extreme physical violence, they're spending time in the hospital. I doubt any of those kids needed a band-aid. Quote you did see the way he threw them to the ground, right????? Threw them to the ground? You mean at 2:07 when the kid yelled "What the fuck is wrong (with you?)?", made a lame-ass attempt to charge the cop, the cop grabbed him, and they fell over because the other cop pulled him back by the shirt? Yeah, that was, uh, real vicious. Quote what message could that possibly send to teenagers??????? not a parent??? I'm guessing they won't go skateboarding there again. As far as the cop goes, he did have an attitude which was wrong one to get the kids the comply with what he wanted them to do. Frankly, he was being a dick. But then again, conveniently for the skateboarders, we don't have the video of what led up to this. --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #16 July 3, 2007 Quote Quote yep, you're right .. verbal taunting by teenagers should always be meet with extreme physical violence. especially when you're 3 to 4 times their size. Extreme physical violence? Where? If someone's the victim of extreme physical violence, they're spending time in the hospital. I doubt any of those kids needed a band-aid. Quote you did see the way he threw them to the ground, right????? Threw them to the ground? You mean at 2:07 when the kid yelled "What the fuck is wrong (with you?)?", made a lame-ass attempt to charge the cop, the cop grabbed him, and they fell over because the other cop pulled him back by the shirt? Yeah, that was, uh, real vicious. Quote what message could that possibly send to teenagers??????? not a parent??? I'm guessing they won't go skateboarding there again. As far as the cop goes, he did have an attitude which was wrong one to get the kids the comply with what he wanted them to do. Frankly, he was being a dick. But then again, conveniently for the skateboarders, we don't have the video of what led up to this. --Head I would - I'd go just to make a point - maybe the guy will be dealt with properly.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 632 #17 July 3, 2007 you were hit as a child weren't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKat 0 #18 July 5, 2007 I hate stupid pigs....swine that is. Not good for the ol' arteries. Anyway, cops aren't all that bad, are they? Discuss. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 July 5, 2007 Quote I hate stupid pigs....swine that is. Not good for the ol' arteries. Anyway, cops aren't all that bad, are they? Discuss. Those that still have their Guy Card aren't.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #20 July 5, 2007 Quote you were hit as a child weren't you? Na, I have heard some stories from other people though. Anyway, when I first watched the video I was outraged like most others here were. Then I read some of the posts in the SC thread, took a step back, and watched the video again which changed my mind. I still think the cop was a jerk about it, but I don't think he should lose his job over this. --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #21 July 5, 2007 Quote Quote you were hit as a child weren't you? Na, I have heard some stories from other people though. Anyway, when I first watched the video I was outraged like most others here were. Then I read some of the posts in the SC thread, took a step back, and watched the video again which changed my mind. I still think the cop was a jerk about it, but I don't think he should lose his job over this. --Head Excessive force is excessive force. Just like a shovel is a shovelI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #22 July 5, 2007 Quote standard dick with a badge and a gun approach in this country...we're ALL criminals when the cops are involved. use of heavy force is the standard approach now...didn't you see the 'roid dealing doctor's office raid by the FBI on tv this past weekend? WHY do you need assault weapons at a Dr's office????? Cops are NOT our friends...EVER! The cops and the courts have WAY more power than our founding leaders ever intended...we have become a police state in the US - did we trade places with communism somehow??? Damn cops, bastards all of them.Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 July 5, 2007 Quote Quote Quote you were hit as a child weren't you? Na, I have heard some stories from other people though. Anyway, when I first watched the video I was outraged like most others here were. Then I read some of the posts in the SC thread, took a step back, and watched the video again which changed my mind. I still think the cop was a jerk about it, but I don't think he should lose his job over this. --Head Excessive force is excessive force. Just like a shovel is a shovel The definition of "Excessive" is relevant to the situation.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #24 July 5, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote you were hit as a child weren't you? Na, I have heard some stories from other people though. Anyway, when I first watched the video I was outraged like most others here were. Then I read some of the posts in the SC thread, took a step back, and watched the video again which changed my mind. I still think the cop was a jerk about it, but I don't think he should lose his job over this. --Head Excessive force is excessive force. Just like a shovel is a shovel The definition of "Excessive" is relevant to the situation. Yep, that by definition was not excessive force, whether he was a massive asshole or not. He used the necessary amount of force to subdue two physically aggressive people at the same time, after subduing someone who was resisting arrest. Hell, they had skateboards, which could have easily been turned into weapons. I'm all for policing the police, but this is hardly an incident, if at all. |>.Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #25 July 5, 2007 I hate skate boarding punks... they don't give a shit if they damage your car etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
