Christian Skydivers Fellowship

[riptidezp 0]

Greetings all,

I guess the purpose of this post is really to ask for fellowship with other christian skydivers...where ever you may be.

For the most part, I would consider myself a christian; if it wasn't for the way i conduct myself sometimes - I would feel 100%. Although, that conversation could be more for the bonfire forum.

Anyway, it seems to me that sometimes the conversation/action on the dropzone is not always beneficial to our spiritial growth or interactions with each other.

And yes, I am a part of the problem as well. I feel maybe it was time I tried to change a little.

I just want to open up some interaction on this topic to see what flows.

As a goal - I guess it would be nice to find other skydivers to pray with once in a while on a drop zone, and not feel out of place - you know what I mean.

May the Lord Bless this word.

Derek Macauley

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other christian skydivers...where ever you may be.

Christian skydivers? Never hear from 'em.

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

[Gawain 0]

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Anyway, it seems to me that sometimes the conversation/action on the dropzone is not always beneficial to our spiritial growth or interactions with each other.

And yes, I am a part of the problem as well. I feel maybe it was time I tried to change a little.

What's to change? Just worry about your "side of the street" and let the rest take care of itself. I do not let me spiritual beliefs get in the way of interacting with people.

It's called: "Acceptance"

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[riptidezp 0]

thank you for the reply. I noticed after the post I am not alone - glory!

As you can see I haven't posted much here in past few years so........

forgive me if our non-christian brothers are feeling bashed by all these christian posts.

LOL

the one reply made me laugh...."christian skydivers - never hear from them" with a link to the post of 5000 replies

LOl

lord bless you all

[shropshire 0]

We dont feel bashed - typically, it's seems like the boot is on the other foot - but hey, the is SC and can be fun at times.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Botellines 0]

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I guess it would be nice to find other skydivers to pray with once in a while on a drop zone, and not feel out of place - you know what I mean.

Cannot you just pray by yourself? I mean, that thing of praying together and doing it in the dropzone, unless you are having problems with your reserve i think is just a way to alienate others.

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May the Lord Bless this word.

May the Force be with You.

[livendive 8]

Ron Schott (and his desk) used to run a group called the Christian Skydivers Assocation, or the CSA, and last I heard they had an online presence (website). A search here or on google groups (rec.skydiving) would probably be a decent start.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[airtwardo 7]

http://members.aol.com/christskyd/


Here's the link to Ron's website...and yes he's still quite active in it among many other things.



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[windcatcher 0]

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Cannot you just pray by yourself? I mean, that thing of praying together and doing it in the dropzone, unless you are having problems with your reserve i think is just a way to alienate others.

Sorry, but I just don't see how a comment like this does anything to help answer the user's thread. To me, a statement like this is trying to get the Christian to change...what good does it serve asking a Christian who wants to find others to pray with..."Cannot you just pray by yourself?"

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May the Force be with You.

And why do you have to bring such a statement of mockery?


I am amazed that people want Christians to "leave them alone"---yet they are often the ones who continually HAVE to say something when a Christian talks, posts,etc. Why can't THEY leave the Christians alone?

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[jcd11235 0]

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Sorry, but I just don't see how a comment like this does anything to help answer the user's thread. To me, a statement like this is trying to get the Christian to change...what good does it serve asking a Christian who wants to find others to pray with..."Cannot you just pray by yourself?"

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 5:5-6

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When I travel to other places in the country, I find the need to pray much more frequently at some DZ's rather than others.

[Shotgun 1]

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Cannot you just pray by yourself? I mean, that thing of praying together and doing it in the dropzone, unless you are having problems with your reserve i think is just a way to alienate others.

I doubt that a group of skydivers who are praying together would be doing so just to alienate others; they would most likely welcome anyone who wanted to join them.

If you saw a group of people doing yoga together at the dz, would you think that they were doing it just to alienate others?

[jcd11235 0]

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If you saw a group of people doing yoga together at the dz, would you think that they were doing it just to alienate others?

Those I have seen practicing yoga at the DZ tend to focus on the fitness aspect, and often completely ignore the religious aspect. I've met a few yoga instructors that I would certainly not consider Hindu.

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[Shotgun 1]

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Those I have seen practicing yoga at the DZ tend to focus on the fitness aspect, and often completely ignore the religious aspect.

Right, but the point is that they have a reason for doing it, and that reason is not to alienate others.

[masterrig 1]

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 5:5-6

[riptidezp 0]

I new it wasn't going to be long before brother matthew was brought into our conversation. I take that to heart, because I feel it doesn't really apply to this conversation; Here is why:
I believe it is speaking more toward those types of people who are on street corners preaching. This was done so because in the times of the bible, or biblical times if you will - some people would profess to be christian and preach on the corner, only to curry favour OR mostly to elevate their social status. In those times, social status was held as number one. So I feel what Matthew is telling us is not to be like that. To be inward in our faith, but outward in fellowship with others (one must read all of matthew and the bible) not to use it in order to gain status....because we will get our reward in gods time, not ours. You see if we took every thing in the bible literal, woman would not be able to talk in church or vote or own land....now we know that isn't right, but during that time it was.

If we took matthew 5 literal - there would be no need for churches - can you see the contridiction in literal translation.

IN the same passage, matthew tells us not to "babble on like the pagans do" - LOL sorry matthew I have just done this.

Understand, I have reached out for fellowship; please do not cut my arm off, just because you do not want to hold it.

The content of my original post was asking for friends and fellowship - I am sorry if it appeared to some as an invitation to a religious debate.

Remember - there is the "intention of christ and the "institution" of christ. If you are looking at any religion in regards to institution - it should fail.

[happythoughts 0]

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You see if we took every thing in the bible literal, woman would not be able to talk in church or vote or own land....now we know that isn't right

Maybe they had something there. I blame California for these liberal ideas.

They could still smoke in their own homes if people had exercised some control.

[airtwardo 7]

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 5:5-6

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[jakee 1,408]

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You see if we took every thing in the bible literal, woman would not be able to talk in church or vote or own land....now we know that isn't right, but during that time it was.

Bollocks. Just because that's how things were done doesn't mean it was ever 'right'.

Anyway, good luck finding a group, as long as you're not evangelising or going round telling people you'll pray for them I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[masterrig 1]

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 5:5-6

DOOBIE DOOBIE DOO

Frank Sinatra 19:55

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[shropshire 0]

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[masterrig 1]

The content of my original post was asking for friends and fellowship
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I feel your pain.
Y'a gotta keep in mind... this is dizzydotcom! Most generally, what you ask for and what you get are about 37-different things. It's a tough row to hoe.


Chuck

[jcd11235 0]

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If we took matthew 5 literal - there would be no need for churches - can you see the contridiction in literal translation.

Or, it could indicate that the Church (the organization) and the church (the building) aren't really in line with the teachings of Christ.

So, who decides which of Jesus' teachings are to be taken literally, and which are metaphorical and subjective?

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IN the same passage, matthew tells us not to "babble on like the pagans do" - LOL sorry matthew I have just done this.

That's okay; this is Speakers Corner.

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Understand, I have reached out for fellowship; please do not cut my arm off, just because you do not want to hold it.

The content of my original post was asking for friends and fellowship - I am sorry if it appeared to some as an invitation to a religious debate.

Like I said, this is SC. Please don't take the debate personally. Despite the often heated debates, we're just a big dysfunctional family.

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Remember - there is the "intention of christ and the "institution" of christ. If you are looking at any religion in regards to institution - it should fail.

Agreed. I think that is one of the things JC was trying to point out in his speech in Matthew.

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[Royd 0]

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Anyway, good luck finding a group, as long as you're not evangelising or going round telling people you'll pray for them I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

How about vibes? Would that be OK?

[airtwardo 7]

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 5:5-6

DOOBIE DOOBIE DOO

Frank Sinatra 19:55

______________________________

Aw yeah! I remember... the Bud Ice Penguin!


airtwardo... ya' crack me up!


Chuck

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