kbordson 8 #1 June 25, 2006 Just finished a discussion with someone a bit younger than I about relationships and partners. He described one of his current "friends" as a "slut." I cautioned him about the use of that word and it's implications (specifically warning him that using it is a good way to get his ass kicked by her) I then realized that I might be in a different population (age, gender) than he is. So I started thinking about if there was a general belief. Per Websters: slut Function: noun Etymology: Middle English slutte 1 chiefly British : a slovenly woman 2 a : a promiscuous woman; especially : PROSTITUTE b : a saucy girl : MINX I know as "skydivers," we might not fall into the "mainstream" population, but I was still curious what the masses of dz.com might think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #2 June 25, 2006 So, what? She didn't give him any? We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #3 June 25, 2006 No... she would, but with the uderstanding that it was just "sex" and there were others that she was dating as well. He was conflicted.... wanted it, but didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #4 June 25, 2006 A slut and a cad, or player are the same thing. They get what they want, then move on down the road, with no regard for the othe person involved, only to do it to someone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaiziel 0 #5 June 26, 2006 I dunno. I try to avoid derogatory terms related to one's sexual habits. I wouldn't feel very good calling someone a slut seriously. Joking around is one thing. I just find it one way to throw rocks at people when they have every right to throw rocks right back at ya, if not for different reasons. "Sexually irresponsible" is my preferred phrase, and if I say slut, i mean sexually irresponsible. I have told friends of mine to watch their use of the word or words like it. Namely because guys are, in fact, just was worthy of the equivalent condescending remarks.---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #6 June 26, 2006 QuoteI have told friends of mine to watch their use of the word or words like it. That's the shiznit. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 June 26, 2006 I think it applies to either men or women but I don't know if it can be just down to numbers. Two examples, I have a friend who suprised me the other day by telling me shes slept with about 200 men. It turns out that she was at a low point in her life some years ago and confused sex with love, she had a deep need (for various reasons) to be loved. She has now sorted herself out and has a boyfriend who she is devoted to and will very likely marry, shes not the type to be unfaithfull. Is she a slut? No I would never place her in that catagory, she dresses on the conservative side of sexy and behaves with self respect. Point two, if a woman of 17 tells you she has had sex with 25 men thats different from a woman of 45 telling you the same thing. I think that to fall into the term 'Slut' its more about frequency of partners divided by time minus self respect (can someone make a mathmatical equation for that?) f/t-R=S Where f=frequency, t=time, R=respect and S=SlutWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #8 June 26, 2006 QuoteI dunno. I try to avoid derogatory terms related to one's sexual habits. I wouldn't feel very good calling someone a slut seriously. Joking around is one thing. I just find it one way to throw rocks at people when they have every right to throw rocks right back at ya, if not for different reasons. "Sexually irresponsible" is my preferred phrase, and if I say slut, i mean sexually irresponsible. I have told friends of mine to watch their use of the word or words like it. Namely because guys are, in fact, just was worthy of the equivalent condescending remarks. So if a woman for arguments sake (could equally be a man) has sex once in their lives but doesn't use contraception of any kind (although pregnancy is not a desired outcome) then by your definition she would be a slut.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #9 June 26, 2006 A slut is one who sleeps around for what ever reasons that is a way to self or others satisfaction. While a whore is one who gains something from the transaction: either monitarey or material. I guess in all respects we can be considered either of this in a section of ones life or being considered a total of these. I know of one girl back in high school whos goal was to be a prostitute: did she I dont know and dont care to know. While on the other hand I have seen/ been with a few who have been around the block a few times just make sure that protection was in order.Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #10 June 26, 2006 QuoteA slut is one who sleeps around for what ever reasons that is a way to self or others satisfaction. While a whore is one who gains something from the transaction: either monitarey or material. Close. A slut sleeps with everyone. A whore sleeps with everyone but you. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 June 26, 2006 IMHO A slut is someone who only cares for getting what they want with out any regard for the consequences of their actions. Male or Female. I also think if a friend of mine used the word slut I wouldn’t give a shit and would probably laugh. I would make a big deal of it and feel like I need to give him a warning about how wrong it is to use words like that. I think the obsession with PC is getting out of hand.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #12 June 26, 2006 Quote I also think if a friend of mine used the word slut I wouldn’t give a shit and would probably laugh. OH boy....I can see the word spreading through the Womans Only forum now......10, 9, 8, (Quick, put on that flame retardant suit I got you for Eid) 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2.......When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #13 June 26, 2006 QuoteIMHO I also think if a friend of mine used the word slut I wouldn’t give a shit and would probably laugh. I would make a big deal of it and feel like I need to give him a warning about how wrong it is to use words like that. I think the obsession with PC is getting out of hand. Although he is a "friend"... I also feel some parental responsibility toward him. He isn't my biological son but I've been helping raise him since he was 2 (and he's now 21). And add in the medical aspect of it - if he feels that he can refer to her as a slut 1. it's unsafe for him to be sleeping with her unprotected. 2. It's bad for his self image and concepts of relationships to be sleeping with girls for the sex alone. 3. It's not nice to call women that you're sleeping with sluts. Might be maternalistic, but hey... at least I'm trying to see it from a different prespective. edit to add: personally I think the word is archaic - but from a protection standpoint .... it started the discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 June 26, 2006 QuoteSo, what? She didn't give him any? No, no, no....that's the wrong trem..... Slut=person who sleeps with anyone. Bitch=person who sleeps with everyone but you. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 June 26, 2006 I would say to call any woman a slut when she isn't is very wrong. I would also like to point out that there are some women that actually are sluts, and they prefer to be called one in some circumstances. That being said to call a woman a slut when she isn't is an insult to her as well as true sluts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 June 26, 2006 Quote1. it's unsafe for him to be sleeping with her unprotected. 2. It's bad for his self image and concepts of relationships to be sleeping with girls for the sex alone. 3. It's not nice to call women that you're sleeping with sluts. One of these is truth, the other two are opinions, one of which I agree with. Do you find masturbation "bad"?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #17 June 26, 2006 Masturbation - nope, not bad. But relationships, where there will possibly be hopes and/or self identity concepts learned from, should be given more respect. (I just don't want him getting into a "bad" situation) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #18 June 26, 2006 QuoteAlthough he is a "friend"... I also feel some parental responsibility toward him. That changes every thing. I thought he was a friend and just said something to be funny or just goofing around. If he views woman he sleeps with as sluts then you are right there is some issues, and that’s not cool. I was looking at it from the perspective of when I call my friends "guys" I usually say "What’s up bitch" and it is just so say hey. If one of them would stop me and give me a lecture about how non Pc that was I would have to smack them.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 June 26, 2006 QuoteNo... she would, but with the uderstanding that it was just "sex" and there were others that she was dating as well. He was conflicted.... wanted it, but didn't. It sounds to me like they have different ideas regarding sexual relationships, so it would probably be a bad idea for them to have sex with each other. And if he honestly thinks that her ideas on sex make her a slut, then he probably shouldn't even be friends with her because he obviously doesn't have a very high opinion of her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #20 June 26, 2006 QuoteI usually say "What’s up bitch" and it is just so say hey. If one of them would stop me and give me a lecture about how non Pc that was I would have to smack them. Oh boy.... I hope you haven't taken that suit offWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #21 June 26, 2006 I said there guys dude.not women. You know what dude your right someone will take it out of context and try to make me look like a an ass. (yes i know i do agood job of being an ass my self) There i beat you to it.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #22 June 27, 2006 QuoteI usually say "What’s up bitch" and it is just so say hey. Me too! Imagine that. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperboy357 0 #23 June 27, 2006 I thought S.L.U.T. actually stood for Skydiving Ladies Under Thirty. There are a lot of S.L.U.Ts around most dropzones. I don't think it's a bad thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #24 June 27, 2006 So.... that would make me NOT a S.L.U.T. Bonus! Or... maybe not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #25 June 27, 2006 Why do you find the word archaic? Because enlightened persons with higher education ought to be reluctant to use it, given development in society since the late 60's, early 70's? I don't feel it's archaic - if anything it has involved to a genderless word. I apply it with equal force against men and women whom I feel meet my requirements for it. Mostly to acquaintances or friends and not always in a jokingly or friendly fashion. It's one of th cry wolf words though, so overused in general it has all but lost its meanings so to me its importance is directly related to who is using it and in what context. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites