TypicalFish 0 #1 June 17, 2004 Kerry, Bush, Nader, who? Let's eliminate the rhetoric for a moment; name who you think will win the presidential election, and why. Or, as an option, why he should win. THE WHY CAN ONLY BE THREE SENTENCES. Should be an interesting exercise; like the "elevator pitch"."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #2 June 17, 2004 Bush...he'll pull Bin Laden out of a hat 4 weeks before election. Then WMDs in Iraq at 2 weeks. At 1 week, he'll "discover" a love child between Kerry and Jane Fonda. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #3 June 17, 2004 Kerry. Bush has drastically increased the defecit. Bush has taken us to war against a nation who didn't attack us. Bush has declared war on the separation between church and state. no way in hell I'd vote for Bush, so Kerry is the only other option, because no independent is going to win this race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #4 June 17, 2004 Bush The American public in the end tends to keep the current administration during war time. A Catholic democrat from the northeast with the exception of Kennedy tend to have a hard time getting key states. P.S. this does not necessarily represent who I would like to see win, but rather what I think will happen------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #5 June 17, 2004 The last Bush seemed to have problems getting reelected on a War ticket. I think its going to have a nationwide vote difference of less then 100000. At this point I think Bush will win, but only because Kerry keeps shooting himself in the mouth every time he opens it. If something happens that makes Bush look bad to the public or if Kerry suddenly becomes a better speaker... I would say Kerry will get more popular votes, but Bush will win since Nader will split the vote in key states.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #6 June 17, 2004 Yea, but we weren't actively in a war, or a military situation, during Bush Sr./Clinton election. Also to reinforce your second point. Clinton was an amazing campainer where as Kerry is not.------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,475 #7 June 17, 2004 Three months ago it would have been Bush, hands down. Now? It seems like they can't screw up fast enough, and a few people (Cheney, Rumsfeld) seem headed towards a meltdown. I think it will be tight. It is certainly not "who will make the better president" but rather "who will do less damage"; a choice between the lesser of two evils. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #8 June 17, 2004 You didn't pick who you think is going to win the election. In the end who do you think will win?------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #9 June 17, 2004 C'mon, stick with the original intent of the post; one choice, three lines. The rhetoric was what I was trying to do away with. A famous industrialist (I can't remember which one) once said that if your product can't be compellingly sold in three sentences, there is something wrong with it (I paraphrase). So let's hear it."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,475 #10 June 17, 2004 >In the end who do you think will win? Short answer: I just don't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #11 June 17, 2004 sorry, just tring to see who Bilvon was picking. I already made my pick.------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #12 June 17, 2004 Then who do you think should, and why? Your's was one of the answers I was waiting for."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 June 17, 2004 You want no rhetoric, but you want people to say why one should win? my answer: Bush; close in popular votes, but winning electorals by more than against Gore - Kerry won't get the swing states.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 June 17, 2004 Bush will win in a tight election. 1) Anyone who actually reads sKerry's plan for the economy can't possibly vote for him unless they truly hate America. 2) The democrats can't suppress the good economic news for much longer (we hope). 3) Republicans are holding a few aces up their sleeves PR-wise until the election kicks into gear. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #15 June 17, 2004 QuoteYou want no rhetoric, but you want people to say why one should win? my answer: Bush; close in popular votes, but winning electorals by more than against Gore - Kerry won't get the swing states. EXACTLY. No arguments, no chest beating, just stand up and state your position."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,475 #16 June 17, 2004 > Then who do you think should, and why? I think Kerry should win. The damage he will do to the economy is less than the damage Bush will do to the rest of the world and our security and basic rights here at home. One of the good things about Kerry is that he will be facing a republican senate; a balanced executive and legislative branch gets less done, and a government that can't easily pass new legislation, new restrictions, new taxes etc is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #17 June 17, 2004 Of course, if I were to post who should win, I'd have to tell you about Michael Badnarik. I can tell you why in just one sentence: He is the Libertarian condidate.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,475 #18 June 17, 2004 > Of course, if I were to post who should win, I'd have to tell you about Michael Badnarik. I'll agree with you there. There is a lot I don't agree with on the libertarian platform, but he is a good guy, is barely a politician, and would bring some new ideas to the white house. It's unfortunate that, throughout 90% of our history, the choice is essentially between two career politicians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #19 June 17, 2004 QuoteIt's unfortunate that, throughout 90% of our history, the choice is essentially between two career politicians. That begs the question, whose fault is that? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #20 June 17, 2004 QuoteBush will win in a tight election. 1) Anyone who actually reads sKerry's plan for the economy can't possibly vote for him unless they truly hate America. 2) The democrats can't suppress the good economic news for much longer (we hope). 3) Republicans are holding a few aces up their sleeves PR-wise until the election kicks into gear. 1) I read Kerry's plan and will vote for him. I don't hate America. And you wonder why people label you as a hard core right winger. 2) What democrat is suppressing good economic news. I read good and bad economic news every day. 3) I'm sure they will be very substantive PR moves such as saying people who support Kerry hate America. And people who oppose the war support terrorism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #21 June 17, 2004 1) Reread his plans and think harder. 2) LOL. Once again denying media bias. 3) Think that if it makes you feel better. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,475 #22 June 17, 2004 >That begs the question, whose fault is that? Ours, of course. We can barely deal with a choice between two parties, much less ten. Large numbers of candidates confuse and depress us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #23 June 17, 2004 Who will win? I agree it will be tight but I think Kerry. I think folks are getting tired of the secrecy and deception of this administration, their fiscal irresponsibility and the erosion of our civil liberties. Oh, and now we appear to be back to the "terrorism" explanation for us going to war against Iraq. Who *should* win? The Budweiser horse. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #24 June 17, 2004 QuoteWho will win?...Who *should* win? The Budweiser horse. Dale Earnhardt..No..wait, he's dead... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #25 June 17, 2004 Quote Who *should* win? The Budweiser horse. True. I remember the words; "When you say Bud, you've said it all.""I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
