SkyDekker 1,147 #51 May 7, 2004 QuoteTo me, torture implies physical injury. So what would you call strapping some one to a bed and dripping water on his head for 48 hours? No physical injury, but I would think it would be a little beyond abuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #52 May 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteTo me, torture implies physical injury. So what would you call strapping some one to a bed and dripping water on his head for 48 hours? No physical injury, but I would think it would be a little beyond abuse. Yes, I agree that would be "torture" too. Obviously, there is a difficulty deciding where to draw the line on these definitions. The point I'm trying to make is, that Bush detractors are calling many things "torture", that are really meerly "abuse". The former is much more severe than the latter. Regardless, the acts are all wrong, and the six perpetrators should be prosecuted, as they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #53 May 7, 2004 Listening to the endless Bush/Kerry slamming matches is torture. Have a great weekend folks, lets not forget what brought us all together in the first place. Blues and fluffies to one and all. Dave.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #54 May 7, 2004 QuoteRegardless, the acts are all wrong, and the six perpetrators should be prosecuted, as they are. Absolutely, couldn't agree more. On top of that I would like to find out why earlier reports from the International Red Cross were ignored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #55 May 7, 2004 QuoteI would like to find out why earlier reports from the International Red Cross were ignored. I've heard on the news that these reports were made public as far back as January. I suppose it's the sensationalistic photos that brought it to the forefront now. I guess words alone don't mean anything, and therefore, the mass of people who only get news from TV, were unaware of it. And there is supposed to be video of these abuses too. Oh boy, just wait until the TV media gets their hands on that footage... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,147 #56 May 7, 2004 QuoteI've heard on the news that these reports were made public as far back as January. I suppose it's the sensationalistic photos that brought it to the forefront now. I guess words alone don't mean anything, and therefore, the mass of people who only get news from TV, were unaware of it. And there is supposed to be video of these abuses too. Oh boy, just wait until the TV media gets their hands on that footage... Actually I am wondering more why the Bush administration did not do more about it, specially if they knew about it but did not act on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #57 May 7, 2004 QuoteI am wondering more why the Bush administration did not do more about it, specially if they knew about it but did not act on it. I've heard that the Army was already involved in handling it, within three days of the report first appearing. So there wasn't any reason for the politicians to get involved - it appeared to be getting taken care of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
