GroundZero 0 #1 April 23, 2002 this needs to be cross posted... I believe it to be true...and I am a Gamblin' man...----------------from the "talkback" forum...--------------------------------------------------------"I think someone will land a wingsuit and walk away uninjured in less than 6 years.""Wanna put any money on that?"Oh ye of little faith. :-)------------------------------------------------------------------------------i MUST reply............"yea... I'm with you... I know WE'LL be landing our Bird-Man Suits in 2008! and you other guys will be standing there watching...hehehehe, they just don't understand what we're doing!I'll put money on that. Chris(6 years would be ...... April 23, 2008)MARK YOUR CALENDARS!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #2 April 23, 2002 only a few people know it will happen..... but, IT WILL.....Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #3 April 23, 2002 I'd put money down on someone landing a bird suit!!!! Although I cant see it happening now I could see it in the very near future!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #4 April 23, 2002 well we already have midair docks between a birdman and a guy under canopy. Give it time they will figure it out. It will probly happen at like a salt flat or somthing. I just don't see people trying land a wingsuit with tree's and shit in the way. I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #5 April 23, 2002 I would think landing in water would be a safer bet with a consealed breathing apperatis(sp)!!! jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #6 April 23, 2002 Lake Powel then?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySurfSnow 0 #7 April 23, 2002 "I think someone will land a wingsuit and walk away uninjured in less than 6 years."And monkeys will fly out of my butt. I think it might be possible in water or on a snow incline...but that person is not going to walk away. It's an insane amount of forward speed that has to be bled off somehow...Here's a little experiment. Have a friend drive your car forward at 120 miles an hour. Jump out of your car at this speed and try to slow down on your belly in a nylon jumpsuit. That's with 0 vertical speed. The slowest fallrate that I've seen in a wingsuit is in the 38-45 mph range.(Though, I'm sure they could probably fall slower under the right person) Time to do another experiment. Put on your trusty, somewhat melted nylon jumpsuit from the last experiment. Now, run as fast as you can towards a brick wall. Once you recover from the impact, realize that you probably only hit it at a maximum of 25mph if you are a very,very fast human being. Think about how you would deal with that impact and still have a forward speed of 120mph. Do I think it's impossible. Nope, not going to say that. Is it going to hurt...yep. Is that person going to walk away...highly doubtful.My totally non-scientific 2cents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #8 April 23, 2002 QuoteI know WE'LL be landing our Bird-Man Suits in 2008! and you other guys will be standing there watching...I agree that someone will land one but they have to SURVIVE the landing to win the bet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyPlaymate 0 #9 April 23, 2002 they will land the wing suit, some people will have to either die doing it or get damn close, but it's already REALLY close to landing right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #10 April 23, 2002 A really really long slide 'n slide! why won't anyone listen to me?! sheesh! A lake wouldn't do. Water isn't soft. Ever see those guys get tossed from one of those drag boats? Ouchy.I would be interested to know - the few reports of a birdman getting 0 (or near 0) verticle speed, what was his horizontal speed?... I forget how the rest of it goes, but you're mother's a whore!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyPlaymate 0 #11 April 23, 2002 skysurfsnow your absolutely right, the few who are close to landing the suit wouldn't be landing on a flat surface. The glide ratio some are getting would mean they would have to land on something softer, like snow, on an hill. Yes they will get hurt, I'm hoping it can happen without someone dying, but that's what will happen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 April 23, 2002 Either way, you know that the groundrush would be a bitch!A human cannonball, I rise above it allUp higher then a trapeze, I can fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 0 #13 April 23, 2002 I'm with the 'monkeys flying out of butt' side of the argument. Another way to look at this is to consider the wingsuit to be a 10 sq ft canopy. Will a 10sqft canopy ever be landable? Maybe not impossible, but that's a helluva challenge. Then you have to consider how sub-optimum the design of a wingsuit is compared to a canopy. No brake lines, limited ability to flare, shape highly constrained by the human body it has to fit round. Even if the suit has airlocks and crossbraces, the designer has very little control of the planform, airfoil, and control system, compared to designing a canopy.The only way this might happen is in a highly specialised landing environment. A snow-covered mountain slope and kevlar suit sounds the most plausible to me. Even then I would call that a crash rather than a landing.Geoff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygeek 0 #14 April 23, 2002 Huge teflon breastplate padded out the wazoo......hmmmm might work......Here hold my beer and watch this.......IItywimwybmab? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
