shibu 1 #1 April 9, 2013 I want to get a Pilot 168 ZPX. I was going to get an I5 to go with it but I read on a post here that it will fit into an I4! How tight of a fit would that be? I'm sure packing would be more annoying. I am also assuming a higher chance of pilot chute in tow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulk04 0 #2 April 9, 2013 what size reserve do you want to get? You can fit a pilot 168 ZPX in a I4 since it packs about 1 size smaller and it will be just fine. Shouldn't give you trouble packing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shibu 1 #3 April 9, 2013 Quotewhat size reserve do you want to get? You can fit a pilot 168 ZPX in a I4 since it packs about 1 size smaller and it will be just fine. Shouldn't give you trouble packing I was thinking of the Smart Reserve 175. I've never flown anything smaller than a Pilot 168. I see someone got his into an I3! ( http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3725663;search_string=Pilot%20ZPX;#3725663) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #4 April 10, 2013 QuoteQuotewhat size reserve do you want to get? You can fit a pilot 168 ZPX in a I4 since it packs about 1 size smaller and it will be just fine. Shouldn't give you trouble packing I was thinking of the Smart Reserve 175. I've never flown anything smaller than a Pilot 168. I see someone got his into an I3! ( http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3725663;search_string=Pilot%20ZPX;#3725663) Get the I5. No need to piss your rigger off or make packing your rig a pain in the ass, just to have it look 'stuffed'."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #5 April 10, 2013 Right. Size your main for your container, and size your container for your reserve! An I4 would at most put you on a Smart 150 (assuming you are buying a Smart), and that sounds like a less than wonderful idea. Cramming in an oversize reserve is maybe physically possible, but it's right up there on my List Of Stuff I Will Never Do. Bonus: You can fit an ordinary ZP Pilot 168 in an I5 and save the bucks . Anecdotally, some people prefer the ZP Aerodyne canopies to the ZPX versions, though I have only ever owned plain ZP so I don't know about that. -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shibu 1 #6 April 10, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat size reserve do you want to get? You can fit a pilot 168 ZPX in a I4 since it packs about 1 size smaller and it will be just fine. Shouldn't give you trouble packing I was thinking of the Smart Reserve 175. I've never flown anything smaller than a Pilot 168. I see someone got his into an I3! ( http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3725663;search_string=Pilot%20ZPX;#3725663) Get the I5. No need to piss your rigger off or make packing your rig a pain in the ass, just to have it look 'stuffed'. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shibu 1 #7 April 10, 2013 Quote Right. Size your main for your container, and size your container for your reserve! An I4 would at most put you on a Smart 150 (assuming you are buying a Smart), and that sounds like a less than wonderful idea. Cramming in an oversize reserve is maybe physically possible, but it's right up there on my List Of Stuff I Will Never Do. Bonus: You can fit an ordinary ZP Pilot 168 in an I5 and save the bucks . Anecdotally, some people prefer the ZP Aerodyne canopies to the ZPX versions, though I have only ever owned plain ZP so I don't know about that. Thanks for clearing that up. Glad I didn't order the I4 yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivingWombat 0 #8 April 10, 2013 Quote Right. Size your main for your container, and size your container for your reserve! An I4 would at most put you on a Smart 150 (assuming you are buying a Smart), and that sounds like a less than wonderful idea. Cramming in an oversize reserve is maybe physically possible, but it's right up there on my List Of Stuff I Will Never Do. Bonus: You can fit an ordinary ZP Pilot 168 in an I5 and save the bucks . Anecdotally, some people prefer the ZP Aerodyne canopies to the ZPX versions, though I have only ever owned plain ZP so I don't know about that. OP: You should use the search function more often. I don't see the reason to buy the I5 except you want a smart reserve and a normal ZP canopy. The 168zpx will fit easily into an I4. I say that because I pack a 188zpx into an I4 without too much trouble. Would you feel comfortable with an optimum 176?? If yes, go for the I4, it's a very nice fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shibu 1 #9 April 10, 2013 Quote Quote Right. Size your main for your container, and size your container for your reserve! An I4 would at most put you on a Smart 150 (assuming you are buying a Smart), and that sounds like a less than wonderful idea. Cramming in an oversize reserve is maybe physically possible, but it's right up there on my List Of Stuff I Will Never Do. Bonus: You can fit an ordinary ZP Pilot 168 in an I5 and save the bucks . Anecdotally, some people prefer the ZP Aerodyne canopies to the ZPX versions, though I have only ever owned plain ZP so I don't know about that. OP: You should use the search function more often. I don't see the reason to buy the I5 except you want a smart reserve and a normal ZP canopy. The 168zpx will fit easily into an I4. I say that because I pack a 188zpx into an I4 without too much trouble. Would you feel comfortable with an optimum 176?? If yes, go for the I4, it's a very nice fit. I did use the search function... that's why I asked the question. There seems to be a wide range of opinions on this. Apparently the ability to get a certain size into the container varies according to humidity or other environmental factors ?? I emailed Aerodyne & am waiting for their answer but I think I'll err on the side of caution. I don't see myself downsizing that much anytime soon. Thanks for the input Wombat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #10 April 10, 2013 Quote I don't see the reason to buy the I5 except you want a smart reserve and a normal ZP canopy Which are actual reasons -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivingWombat 0 #11 April 11, 2013 Email Rob Fischer from Aerodyne "[email protected]". He can give you all the answers you need. Don't forget the fact that ZPX packs easier when brandnew if you compare to normal ZP. I4 or I5, you will like it anyway I guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shibu 1 #12 April 12, 2013 Quote Email Rob Fischer from Aerodyne "[email protected]". He can give you all the answers you need. Don't forget the fact that ZPX packs easier when brandnew if you compare to normal ZP. I4 or I5, you will like it anyway I guess Will do. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
