sharpfive 0 #1 January 14, 2003 Norton intercepted and quarantined an email infected with the WIN32.KlezD@mm virus on my PC.When I go to delete the file (size.exe) from the quarantine folder, I get the old "Are you SURE?" message. Does anybody know if it's ok to delete it? I figure it's alright since I never opened the email. I guess it's true, Outlook is vulnerable to the virus problem because it's so widely used.Is Eudora the way to go to avoid this nonsense??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #2 January 14, 2003 Any email program can let a virus on your pc. I had this one not so long ago, I just deleted it straight form quarantine, and had no problems ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanillasky11 0 #3 January 14, 2003 http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default2.asp?m=q&virus=Klez&alt=Klez Try this out it will tell you all about the virus found and ways to get rid of it. "You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky." -- Amelia Earhart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #4 January 14, 2003 Many thanks, I will destroy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #5 January 14, 2003 Thanks, Wow, those are some scary instructions. Looks like one wrong move and my PC is locked. I think I might just delete the file. I did a system scan, and it looks like everything is clean except for the quarantined mail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #6 January 14, 2003 NAV is good, just delete the virus, unless there is someone you don't like in your address book Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #7 January 14, 2003 I'd like to infect the SOB that wrote the virus with bubonic plague Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #8 January 14, 2003 If you use a Windows machine, Eudora will not prevent the virus attachment from being downloaded. Reading the email is completely harmless but if you execute the attachment, your machine can still be infected regardless of your email program. However, unless you have Outlook, your machine will not become a new source for infecting others. Eudora is not vulnerable to that particular function of Klez. Some varieties of Klez will still do other damage to your computer no matter what email program you use. If nobody used Outlook, Klez would stop spreading. In fact, all email-spread viral packages would stop spreading. Microsoft is responsible for 95% of the worldwide vulnerability in the computer infrastructure. One has to conclude it's intentional. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #9 January 14, 2003 Klez drives me crazy... I get it in my email at work at least 10 times every day, which tells me that there are at least a few skydivers out there who have this thing on their 'puter and don't even know it. Between viruses and spam I spend at least a half hour of every day on the delete button. What a pain in the ass. If you don't have virus protection, get it! And run a scan once in awhile... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #10 January 14, 2003 Wouldn't it be easier to set up some rules so that repeat spam from the same address / domain gets wiped before you even look at it? ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #11 January 14, 2003 Quoteso that repeat spam from the same address / domain gets wiped before you even look at it Can't. Too many jumpers use hotmail and yahoo addresses; the rules might delete a legitimate email. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #12 January 14, 2003 Lisa, a close look at the headers of Klez-bearing emails can sometimes (often) give you clues about the unintentional sender. Then you can tell the specific individual they're infected. I've been successful at getting rid of most of my daily Klez by tracking it down to just two clients. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbob 0 #13 January 14, 2003 Go ahead and dump it, you'll be fine. I use Outlook 2002 for email and Outlook Express for newsreader and haven't been infected yet (knock on wood). I update the virus definitions with Norton every week, Sunday evening, as long as you keep it updated it does a very good job at catching the nasties.Who Dares Wins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #14 January 14, 2003 I'm really surprised the punishment for virus writers is so lame. If someone steals millions from a company in white-collar-type crime, they typically get jail sentences for many years. I don't think the justice department understands how many millions or billions in damage these viruses do to individuals and corporations. Virus writers often get no more than a slap on the wrist when they're caught.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #15 January 14, 2003 Doesn't Eudora or any email program other than Outlook reduce the chances of receiving a virus? I heard that most viruses (vira?) are written to work on Outlook because it is the prevailing email program world wide. Plus, it's just another reason to stop using another Microsoft product Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #16 January 14, 2003 QuoteKlez drives me crazy... I get it in my email at work at least 10 times every day, which tells me that there are at least a few skydivers out there who have this thing on their 'puter and don't even know it. Between viruses and spam I spend at least a half hour of every day on the delete button. What a pain in the ass. If you don't have virus protection, get it! And run a scan once in awhile... That's what I was telling people for a loooong time. So many were resistant (saying it slowed their computers down too much) that I finally gave up. I suggest Avast! home Edition to everyone that says this. It's FREE to home users, and has a small footprint on system resources. those that will not accept this advice either I write off. I figure that they'll get hit with a destructive virus eventually. Yep, they'll learn the hard way.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #17 January 14, 2003 It's the other way around... Using an e-mail program other than MS dramatically reduces the chance of SPREADING a virus. Now if you're a script kiddie, are you gonna write a virus that will affect 3-4% of the computer world who are also more than likely technically competent, or do you write a virus that's gonna hit the majority of computer users who are often 1st time buyers and haven't a CLUE how to undo what you just screwed up...I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #18 January 14, 2003 Norton 2003 just caught W32sobig.a@mm on my PC this morning...it was deleted auto for me, and when I opened my e-mail just got message it had been deleted. Smiles eustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #19 January 14, 2003 In that case, that $24.95 Norton renewal was money well spent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #20 January 14, 2003 Quote $24.95 Norton renewal ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #21 January 14, 2003 Quote Quote $24.95 Norton renewal So I'm a cheap foker. Avast 4.0 Antivirus. Full function scanner. Free. Auto email protection (inbound and outbound). Free. Auto updates. Free. Did I mention it's free? It's stopped literally hundreds of Klez variants in the last month alone, on my home network. Oh, yea, it's free too!It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #22 January 14, 2003 I use norton. It's well known and, errmmmmmm, free ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #23 January 14, 2003 Quote I use norton. It's well known and, errmmmmmm, free Yep, that's exactly what a friend of mine here said. Until last month though, when she was forced to pay $25 for the next year of virus updates. Edit to add: Besides the fact that it is a system resource hog on everything but the high end systems.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
