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Quote>I wonder how much one of those babies sets us tax payers back.
No problem there! Under our new system of accounting, you can spend way AND give tax cuts to the rich. Any problems with that system can be dealt with by the next administration.
Believe it or not, they're relatively cheap. Being "dumb" bombs means they don't have all that expensive fancy-pants guidance. The explosive filler is similar to the stuff that Timothy McViegh used against the OK City fed bldg (Ammonium Nitrate / Fuel Oil [ANFO]).
GSX is Ammonium Nitrate, Aluminum powder and a stabilizer (polystyrene).
Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters are Ammonium Perchlorate and aluminum powder in an RTV-like suspension).
Sounds like the MOAB has some kind of Trinitrotolulene, maybe RDX (or its ugly sister, Semtex) for higher yield.
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Nothing scares the bejesus out of the enemy (without nuking them) better than the Daisy Cutter.
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>Believe it or not, they're relatively cheap. Being "dumb" bombs
>means they don't have all that expensive fancy-pants guidance.
They do have pretty fancy pants for a bomb. They have an inertial navigation system that's downloaded before they're dropped. After they're dropped they deploy wings and grid fins for control, and use the INS (with a GPS for greater accuracy) to glide to their targets. Sort of a very, very large cruise missile (with a very limited range.)
GPS guidance 'retrofits' for dumb bombs are getting very popular as their price drops - expect to see a lot more guided munitions used in the next war.
>means they don't have all that expensive fancy-pants guidance.
They do have pretty fancy pants for a bomb. They have an inertial navigation system that's downloaded before they're dropped. After they're dropped they deploy wings and grid fins for control, and use the INS (with a GPS for greater accuracy) to glide to their targets. Sort of a very, very large cruise missile (with a very limited range.)
GPS guidance 'retrofits' for dumb bombs are getting very popular as their price drops - expect to see a lot more guided munitions used in the next war.
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Quote. . . expect to see a lot more guided munitions used in the next war.
By "next war" do you mean this one we're about to go into, or the one after that?
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Quote>Believe it or not, they're relatively cheap. Being "dumb" bombs
>means they don't have all that expensive fancy-pants guidance.
They do have pretty fancy pants for a bomb. They have an inertial navigation system that's downloaded before they're dropped. After they're dropped they deploy wings and grid fins for control, and use the INS (with a GPS for greater accuracy) to glide to their targets. Sort of a very, very large cruise missile (with a very limited range.)
GPS guidance 'retrofits' for dumb bombs are getting very popular as their price drops - expect to see a lot more guided munitions used in the next war.
When I saw the initial reports, I thought it was just a bigger version of the BLU-82. Silly me.
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QuoteQuote>I wonder how much one of those babies sets us tax payers back.
No problem there! Under our new system of accounting, you can spend way AND give tax cuts to the rich. Any problems with that system can be dealt with by the next administration.
Believe it or not, they're relatively cheap. Being "dumb" bombs means they don't have all that expensive fancy-pants guidance. The explosive filler is similar to the stuff that Timothy McViegh used against the OK City fed bldg (Ammonium Nitrate / Fuel Oil [ANFO]).
Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters are Ammonium Perchlorate and aluminum powder in an RTV-like suspension).
Just for the record, the space shuttle SRB propellant, APCP, cannot be made to "explode". The SRB's just kept on going when the Challenger exploded. Stick a blasting cap in APCP and it just scatters bits around, doesn't even catch fire. Wrap det. cord around APCP and it won't explode. For this reason, ATF has classified APCP as an explosive, an action that threatens the future of hobby rocketry (see another thread).
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QuoteNothing scares the bejesus out of the enemy (without nuking them) better than the Daisy Cutter.
Chuck
Yup. Nothing like a BLU-82 for spreading gloom...hehehe
Unfortunately, allied troops in PGW1 saw the mushroom clouds they make, and initially thought they were nukes. Very bad.
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"Grand Slam" was 22,000lbs, MOAB is 21,000lbs. However, Grand Slam was a deep penetration bomb designed to destroy reinforced concrete bunkers, submarine pens, railroad tunnels etc. so it had a thick high strength steel casing. MOAB is an air burst bomb and has a lighter casing, meaning it has more explosive charge.
I posted a link to a Grand Slam pic earlier in the thread. A Grand Slam prototype, the "Tallboy", sank the Turpitz, Germany's largest battleship.
There are some great pics of Tallboys and Grand Slams on this site:
www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/miscellaneous/tallboy/tallboy.html
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