captainpooby 0 #1 December 9, 2003 http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=20343 http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=20344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #2 December 9, 2003 Bet it flew a little funky after that. Congrats to the crew for getting it on the ground! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #3 December 9, 2003 Supposedly they lost two of three hydraulic systems, leaving them with extremely limited elevator control(I'm assuming they only had elevator trim, not true elevator control, based on some of the info I've seen) and rudder control. The crew did an excellent job getting the airplane on the ground and surviving the incident. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #4 December 9, 2003 QuoteSupposedly they lost two of three hydraulic systems, leaving them with extremely limited elevator control(I'm assuming they only had elevator trim, not true elevator control, based on some of the info I've seen) and rudder control. The crew did an excellent job getting the airplane on the ground and surviving the incident. Mike This is the info I have. "Aircraft was hit at 8000 FT, lost ALL hydraulics and therefore had no flight controls, actually did a missed approach using only engine thrust and eventually (after about 16mins) landed heavily on runway 33L at Baghdad. This was fortunate because with no steering the aircraft veered of the runway to the left, had they landed on 33R veering to the left would have taken them straight into the fire station. The aircraft then travelled about 600 metres through soft sand taking out a razor wire fence in the process, see LH engine pic, and came to rest almost at the bottom of the sloping area between the runway and a taxiway. All three crew evacuated safely down the second slide, the first one tore on the razor wire." "The point of entry pics show where a projectile entered Tank 1A, which was full of fuel, and, after it ignited, proceeded to burn away at the spar. The fuel tank ribs in the area directly in front of the O/B flap are burnt almost 50% through. The crew obviously did a fantastic job in getting the aircraft back on to the ground and one can only assume that it was most fortunate that they were not aware of the state of the wing as they could not see it from the cockpit." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #5 December 9, 2003 holy shiite! That shit flew?Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #6 December 9, 2003 Quoteholy shiite! That shit flew? Thats nothing. An Israeli pilot landed this. http://www.usrcjc.org/photogallery/F15Wing/F15Wing1[1].jpg http://www.usrcjc.org/photogallery/F15Wing/F15Wing2[1].jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,409 #7 December 9, 2003 >holy shiite! That shit flew? It's amazing what will fly. A DC-10 was landed missing one engine and all its controls; the fact that over half the passengers survived was a miracle. A 737 lost most of its top and landed safely in Hawaii; a 747 in Japan lost 75% of its rear end (including the pressure bulkhead, all the hydraulics, and most of the vertical stabilizer) and actually flew around for over 30 minutes before crashing into a mountain. DC-3's have flown missing most of one wing. Military jets have flown back to base and landed missing one wing entirely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #8 December 9, 2003 I thought it would have "hydraulic fuses" to limit the amount of fluid that could be lost in that type of scenario. Of course maybe the leak was not fast enough to activate the fuse, or there could be other complications. It will be interesting to find out more. Aviation Week is one of the only sources for good info on this type of stuff. http://aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/12083air.xml QuoteAll hydraulic pressure was lost about a minute after the hit, the source said. The low-speed aileron outboard of the damage is supplied by all three hydraulic systems, and there are five spoilers in front of the outboard flap, fed by the three systems. Primary flight controls become inoperative on the A300B4 with total loss of hydraulic pressure, because there is no manual reversion. The stabilizer trim froze because it is powered only by a pair of hydraulic motors. The crew deployed the ram air turbine with hydraulic pump, but the leaks rendered it ineffective. And the worst thing of all! I will start a new thread on this! QuoteA Paris Match magazine freelance photographer was with the attackers and shot pictures of the missile launch and strike, which are in the Nov. 27 issue. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
