sid 1 #1 September 23, 2004 Just posted a pic of Ronnie Smith jumping a huge American Flag that we made for the Jacksonville Jags demo that was weathered out last Sunday. This is what it should have looked like, and probably will on October 3rd. Clck on the last thumbnail for the full size picture http://www.theartofskydiving.com/gallery/Art%27s%20Gallery/art_gallery_index.htmPete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #2 September 23, 2004 The Canopies with the flag bags, are those Flight Concepts? How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #3 September 23, 2004 2,100 sq. ft? That's bigger than my house! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #4 September 23, 2004 Made out of ZP/F111? The one Ralph from CO has is I think just slightly larger and he jumps a 425 main with it. I noticed the hanging weight, I think Airtwardo came up with a new system for Ralph's flag that eliminates the hanging weight. You might talk to him about it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #5 September 23, 2004 QuoteThe Canopies with the flag bags, are those Flight Concepts? The canopy is an Eiff Classic, 281 sq. ft. and we built a triangular deployment bag so that the flag is tri-folded into it. It makes for a smoother deployment.Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #6 September 23, 2004 I'm talking about the pictures where the flag is flying between the canopy and the risers. How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #7 September 23, 2004 QuoteI'm talking about the pictures where the flag is flying between the canopy and the risers. Oh, sorry, I'm not sure. Maybe Art will read this and reply.......Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #8 September 23, 2004 i've seen bigger......*cough* but damn that's one huge fuckin flag! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 September 23, 2004 The problem I have with jumping flags that big is with it touching the ground when you land. I know you've probably got catchers on the ground but I wouldn't think it could be prevented entirely. All the demos that I've done with flags have been with smaller ones that I personally could control and the crowd absolutely loved it. I think we've gotten to the point of sacrificing honor and respect for sensationalism and our own glory. Not to try and take anything away from your demo and I'm also not making an accusation directed at you or your team in particular. You probably have all your bases covered. I’m just making a general observation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #10 September 23, 2004 I used to have a Startrac with the bag made into the canopy(see avatar) loved the flag set up. I don't have that canopy any more, I now have a triathlon that I use, but I miss being able to fly the flag above the risers. How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #11 September 23, 2004 Thie Jags or somebody must be spending some bucks on you guys. A huge flag and a Wachovia tandem canopy....... How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #12 September 23, 2004 QuoteThe problem I have with jumping flags that big is with it touching the ground when you land. I know you've probably got catchers on the ground but I wouldn't think it could be prevented entirely. Good point, but the flag has it's own cutaway system and is released just prior to landing. The ground crew (and there's a LOT of them) prevent the flag hitting the ground. Trust me, there's NOBODY more sensitive to this issue than Ronnie.........Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #13 September 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe problem I have with jumping flags that big is with it touching the ground when you land. I know you've probably got catchers on the ground but I wouldn't think it could be prevented entirely. Good point, but the flag has it's own cutaway system and is released just prior to landing. The ground crew (and there's a LOT of them) prevent the flag hitting the ground. Trust me, there's NOBODY more sensitive to this issue than Ronnie......... Excellent!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wrightskyguy 1 #14 September 23, 2004 ***The Canopies with the flag bags, are those Flight Concepts? They are PD 7 cells John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WFFC 1 #15 September 24, 2004 QuoteMade out of ZP/F111? The one Ralph from CO has is I think just slightly larger and he jumps a 425 main with it. I noticed the hanging weight, I think Airtwardo came up with a new system for Ralph's flag that eliminates the hanging weight. You might talk to him about it. Not sure of the exact size of Ralph's, but pretty soon, that will be the 'small' one.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 15 #16 September 24, 2004 Ohhhh.... I would LOVE to see a formation of those 3 flags at the same time Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WFFC 1 #17 September 24, 2004 There's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Ralph jumps a banner that represents the USA flag. The current weight configuration on it is not conducive to catching it (35 lbs on the front). But it is scooped up pretty quickly after touchdown. Streaker did an excellent job communicating this in the spectator area during the WFFC this year.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #18 September 24, 2004 QuoteThere's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Ralph jumps a banner that represents the USA flag. The current weight configuration on it is not conducive to catching it (35 lbs on the front). But it is scooped up pretty quickly after touchdown. Streaker did an excellent job communicating this in the spectator area during the WFFC this year. The one shown in this thread is also a banner. A flag has about a 1.5 to 1.6 ratio. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites John4455 0 #19 September 24, 2004 Did PD make the flag bag set up? How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #20 September 25, 2004 Here's a 2500 footer...on a 'Set 400' Hummmm...NO HANGING WEIGHT!! (Bet ya can catch that one!) Ground shots give a better idea for scale... The 'top' flag on the triples is an 800 footer. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #21 September 25, 2004 QuoteHere's a 2500 footer...on a 'Set 400' Hummmm...NO HANGING WEIGHT!! (Bet ya can catch that one!) Ground shots give a better idea for scale... The 'top' flag on the triples is an 800 footer. Nice shots, show off. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #22 September 25, 2004 QuoteNice shots, show off. Sparky Quote ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #23 September 25, 2004 Quote There's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Quote Good point... Ours which is the correct ratio, is designated with a placard as an "Aerial Display Banner" from the Veterans of Foreign Wars organization... and that distinction is made clear during the announcer part of the presentation. We do also make every attempt to 'catch' it anyway... More Flag & Banner PICS ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WFFC 1 #24 September 25, 2004 Very cool. I believe that Ralph got your number that night around the campfire at the WFFC? I'll encourage him to contact you once he starts the big project.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #25 September 25, 2004 QuoteVery cool. I believe that Ralph got your number that night around the campfire at the WFFC? I'll encourage him to contact you once he starts the big project. Quote Looking forward to it! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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wrightskyguy 1 #14 September 23, 2004 ***The Canopies with the flag bags, are those Flight Concepts? They are PD 7 cells John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #15 September 24, 2004 QuoteMade out of ZP/F111? The one Ralph from CO has is I think just slightly larger and he jumps a 425 main with it. I noticed the hanging weight, I think Airtwardo came up with a new system for Ralph's flag that eliminates the hanging weight. You might talk to him about it. Not sure of the exact size of Ralph's, but pretty soon, that will be the 'small' one.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #16 September 24, 2004 Ohhhh.... I would LOVE to see a formation of those 3 flags at the same time Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #17 September 24, 2004 There's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Ralph jumps a banner that represents the USA flag. The current weight configuration on it is not conducive to catching it (35 lbs on the front). But it is scooped up pretty quickly after touchdown. Streaker did an excellent job communicating this in the spectator area during the WFFC this year.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #18 September 24, 2004 QuoteThere's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Ralph jumps a banner that represents the USA flag. The current weight configuration on it is not conducive to catching it (35 lbs on the front). But it is scooped up pretty quickly after touchdown. Streaker did an excellent job communicating this in the spectator area during the WFFC this year. The one shown in this thread is also a banner. A flag has about a 1.5 to 1.6 ratio. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #19 September 24, 2004 Did PD make the flag bag set up? How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #20 September 25, 2004 Here's a 2500 footer...on a 'Set 400' Hummmm...NO HANGING WEIGHT!! (Bet ya can catch that one!) Ground shots give a better idea for scale... The 'top' flag on the triples is an 800 footer. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #21 September 25, 2004 QuoteHere's a 2500 footer...on a 'Set 400' Hummmm...NO HANGING WEIGHT!! (Bet ya can catch that one!) Ground shots give a better idea for scale... The 'top' flag on the triples is an 800 footer. Nice shots, show off. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #22 September 25, 2004 QuoteNice shots, show off. Sparky Quote ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #23 September 25, 2004 Quote There's the term 'Flag' and the term 'Banner'. A flag is not supposed to touch the ground. A Banner that represents a flag is allowed to touch the ground. Quote Good point... Ours which is the correct ratio, is designated with a placard as an "Aerial Display Banner" from the Veterans of Foreign Wars organization... and that distinction is made clear during the announcer part of the presentation. We do also make every attempt to 'catch' it anyway... More Flag & Banner PICS ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #24 September 25, 2004 Very cool. I believe that Ralph got your number that night around the campfire at the WFFC? I'll encourage him to contact you once he starts the big project.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #25 September 25, 2004 QuoteVery cool. I believe that Ralph got your number that night around the campfire at the WFFC? I'll encourage him to contact you once he starts the big project. Quote Looking forward to it! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
