ChasingBlueSky 0 #1 July 17, 2003 Looks like I am going to miss them in concert for the first time in about ten years when they pass thru Chicago on Saturday. Oh well, guess I will pick them up in October somewhere else in the Midwest. Has anyone see this show yet? Is it any good? Did you guys know there is a new CD with the original line up coming out on Tuesday the 22nd? For those of you who don't know - Chris DeGarmo is a pilot and that is why they have so many song about the sky....and of course that is where I got my DZ.com name from...._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #2 July 17, 2003 to hell with QR! they've been going down hill since Mindcrime..Empire had its moments but... Fates Warning and Dream Theater are playing on that tour too!! what are you nuts?? go go go!!____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #3 July 17, 2003 what Qeensryche fans??? Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #4 July 17, 2003 Sorry but they suck and always did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #5 July 17, 2003 Quoteto hell with QR! they've been going down hill since Mindcrime..Empire had its moments but... Fates Warning and Dream Theater are playing on that tour too!! what are you nuts?? go go go!! I'll agree on Hear/Frontier and Q2K (Kelley Gray? blech), but Promised Land is a great cd. I'll pick up Tribes when it comes out next week just to see if they are back on track. Yea, I would love to see Fates Warning and Dream Theatre (or QR jr as I call them). However, I am still unemployed and going to Rantoul. Can't spend the cash, plus I have to be somewhere Sat Night anyhow._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #6 July 17, 2003 QR jr? lol.... have you seen them? they absolutely slay QR, have since their first album while QR was busy selling out..of course they'll never be as commercially successful because they are far to 'prog' for the mainstream.. Fates may be more easily accessible (more melodic) but they wont have the mass appeal either.. bands that write 12 min songs just dont fit will into radio play rotations, that rehash the same 6 sounds...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #7 July 17, 2003 no shit. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #8 July 17, 2003 QuoteSorry but they suck and always did. are you kidding?? the first 3 albums are epic! Take hold of the Flame? Roads to Madness? The Lady wore Black? Queen of the Ryche? NM156? they once had the fire...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 July 17, 2003 QuoteQR jr? lol.... have you seen them? they absolutely slay QR, have since their first album while QR was busy selling out..of course they'll never be as commercially successful because they are far to 'prog' for the mainstream.. Fates may be more easily accessible (more melodic) but they wont have the mass appeal either.. bands that write 12 min songs just dont fit will into radio play rotations, that rehash the same 6 sounds... Haven't seem them in concert, yet...but I will. My brother is a huge Dream fan and got me hooked on them. Still, as much as you can hear a Floyd influence on QR, you can hear the QR influence on Dream. I'll make sure to catch them the next time they are in town. Dream and QR have never really been radio friendly. QR was forced by their label to make friendlier songs for radio, thus the reason for Empire. Promise Land was their breakaway from the studio again.....I guess since I have hung out with QR on a bunch of occasions I see them in a different light. Still, I don't think I have seen a concert as well done as the LiveCrime tour._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 July 17, 2003 QuoteQuoteSorry but they suck and always did. are you kidding?? the first 3 albums are epic! Take hold of the Flame? Roads to Madness? The Lady wore Black? Queen of the Ryche? NM156? they once had the fire... You may want to check out their website then - they have remastered all their CDs and have put bonus tracks on all of them. The stuff up to Mindcrime is pure classic._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 July 17, 2003 Quoteto hell with QR! they've been going down hill since Mindcrime..Empire had its moments but... Fates Warning and Dream Theater are playing on that tour too!! what are you nuts?? go go go!! FATESWARNING noe exit album was KICK ASS "enter young man welcome cast your dreams and show you waht is real....." i forget the rest!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #12 July 17, 2003 now I gotta go d/l some FW and QR!!! thanks for the nostalgia!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NM156 0 #13 July 17, 2003 I have to say that their music was really great up to (and including) Empire, plus a few good tracks on Promised Land... and then they went downhill from there. However, their first few albums are just amazing. I saw them in concert once (Empire Tour... but the show was really about Operation Mindcrime). This was one of the best show I have ever seen. Anyone wants to guess where I got my user name from? NM156 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #14 July 17, 2003 didnt they loose thier guitarist after empire? they got a cheaper carbon copy I think! semi-famous guitarist form thew 80's I havent kept up with themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NM156 0 #15 July 17, 2003 Actually, if I remember correctly, Chris DeGarmo was still with them on Promised Land and left afterwards. His replacement was definitely not as talented (he could play all right, but the writing was not as good). Chris de Garmo was writing a big portion of the music at the time. NM156 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmddave 0 #16 July 17, 2003 I haven't seen them in about two years but would definitely make to another show at the first opportunity. QR changes with the times but I still think they're great. Dream Theatre is just a cheap QR imitation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NM156 0 #17 July 17, 2003 Well I have to say that I prefer Queensryche's music to Dream Theatre, but I would not go as far as saying that they are a cheap imitation. DT are extremely talented, their music is just a little harder to appreciate. NM156 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #18 July 17, 2003 Quote DT are extremely talented, their music is just a little harder to appreciate. exactly much more musically complex (QR never really went down that path) and therefore less marketable. wonders if all the QR fans who think DT is a 'rip off' also thought QR was ripping off Maiden at the time they started?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #19 July 17, 2003 I liked dream theatre but I didnt like the keyboards in there. they didnt seems to fit!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NM156 0 #20 July 17, 2003 I am curious to see if Queensryche fans also like Crimson Glory. Transencence is one of my favorite albums of all time. I heard a few weeks ago that Midnight might be returning for a new album. BTW, I am on a roll, 4 post in one night for me... at this rate I might lose my Newbie status before next year!! NM156 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyrat 1 #21 July 18, 2003 Jeff Tate still has the best voice in Rock N Roll. I've seen them a couple of times but I thought the Empire-Mindcrime tour was by far the best. The visuals on Mindcrime were awesome. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhathaway 0 #22 July 18, 2003 I see dream theater every chance I get. Just a few weeks ago in Orlando, and couple of days later in Clearwater. UNBELIEVABLE every time I go. Queensryche is good, but so was John Denver. Each one in Dream Theater is amazing.-TonyMy O.C.D. has me chasing a dream my A.D.D. won't let me catch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #23 July 18, 2003 they use to say that about mike patton(?) the singer to faith no more and MR bungleMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #24 July 18, 2003 Quotethey use to say that about mike patton(?) the singer to faith no more and MR bungle However, Patton did not grow up with opera vocal training like Tate did._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #25 July 18, 2003 QuoteQuotethey use to say that about mike patton(?) the singer to faith no more and MR bungle However, Patton did not grow up with opera vocal training like Tate did. Tate has been chain smoking for the last 10 years, and his voice shows it.. Both Bruce Dickenson and Rob Halford slayed him when i saw them together in vegas...and they both have 15 years on him... Patton cant hold a candle to any of the 'trained' types, that was record company hype. listen to Worl Dane (Sanctuary & Nevermore) Ray Alder (Fates Warning) James LaRue (Dream Theater) John Arch (Fates Warning) John Olivia (Savatage) also anyone whos on the fence about DT needs to listen to TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA they are many of the same musicians..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
