kkeenan 13 #1 February 7, 2007 The more you read of this, the more strange it gets... http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7429/1459 _____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #2 February 7, 2007 That has *got* to be some sort of bizarre joke! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #3 February 7, 2007 Very.. Odd 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #4 February 7, 2007 That is the funniest bit of satire I've read in a long while. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katzeye 0 #5 February 7, 2007 QuoteGordon C S Smith, professor1, Jill P Pell, consultant2 1 Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Cambridge University, Cambridge CB2 2QQ, 2 Department of Public Health, Greater Glasgow NHS Board, Glasgow G3 8YU QuoteContributors: GCSS had the original idea. JPP tried to talk him out of it. JPP did the first literature search but GCSS lost it. GCSS drafted the manuscript but JPP deleted all the best jokes. GCSS is the guarantor, and JPP says it serves him right. Funding: None. Dept of gynocology? WTF? Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #6 February 7, 2007 That is a joke ... right? "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #7 February 7, 2007 For the sake of arguing that this could be legitimate and real, they make a valid point here: "an adverse outcome after free fall is by no means inevitable."Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcann 0 #8 February 7, 2007 This is real. I do biomedical research, specifically on women's health. Ever since the results of the Women's Health Initiative (a large clinical trial studying the effects of hormone replacement therapy use on cardiovascular disease, breast cancer, and other chronic diseases) were published in 2002, there has been some debate regarding the validity of observational studies. In this case, several large observational studies had shown beneficial effects of HRT use on cardiovascular disease and no negative effect on breast cancer. However, the clinical trial, which was considered the gold-standard, showed negative effects on both of those outcomes. Since then major discrepancies have been found with the design of the clinical trial, but I won't bore you with the details. IMO, this "study" does a great job arguing the validity of observational studies. Also, the OB/GYN background of the authors is not surprising since these are the practitioners most commonly involved with hormone replacement therapy counseling, prescription, etc.Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leapdog 0 #9 February 7, 2007 QuoteResults We were unable to identify any randomised controlled trials of parachute intervention. If it is randomised then it wouldn't be controlled right? Also where were they looking to identify this? You're right this is f'd up. I could only read a few lines. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #10 February 7, 2007 I love that article. An OB/Gyn friend (and jumper) gave me a copy a couple of years ago. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites soberamprat 0 #11 February 7, 2007 They most likely got millions of $ for this study http://www.swoopstudios.com/videos/videos-rex.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lauraliscious 0 #12 February 7, 2007 WOW, is that funny! This is my favorite part... " It might be argued that the pressure exerted on individuals to use parachutes is yet another example of a natural, life enhancing experience being turned into a situation of fear and dependency. " So, I'm fearful and dependent when I jump WITH my parachute, but would have a natural and life-enhancing experience if I jumped without one??? Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2fat2fly 0 #13 February 7, 2007 I thought that they were pointing out flaws in accepted study proceedures.I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #14 February 7, 2007 From now on, I am not going to refer to myself as a skydiver. I am "gravitationally challenged.""There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rick 67 #15 February 7, 2007 If I were a rocket scientist maybe I could understand the studyYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
leapdog 0 #9 February 7, 2007 QuoteResults We were unable to identify any randomised controlled trials of parachute intervention. If it is randomised then it wouldn't be controlled right? Also where were they looking to identify this? You're right this is f'd up. I could only read a few lines. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #10 February 7, 2007 I love that article. An OB/Gyn friend (and jumper) gave me a copy a couple of years ago. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soberamprat 0 #11 February 7, 2007 They most likely got millions of $ for this study http://www.swoopstudios.com/videos/videos-rex.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #12 February 7, 2007 WOW, is that funny! This is my favorite part... " It might be argued that the pressure exerted on individuals to use parachutes is yet another example of a natural, life enhancing experience being turned into a situation of fear and dependency. " So, I'm fearful and dependent when I jump WITH my parachute, but would have a natural and life-enhancing experience if I jumped without one??? Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #13 February 7, 2007 I thought that they were pointing out flaws in accepted study proceedures.I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #14 February 7, 2007 From now on, I am not going to refer to myself as a skydiver. I am "gravitationally challenged.""There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #15 February 7, 2007 If I were a rocket scientist maybe I could understand the studyYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
