1969912 0 #1 October 20, 2007 Alonso, Raikkonen, or Hamilton will be F1 World Champion tomorrow after the race in Brazil. They have 103, 100, and 107 points respectively. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #2 October 20, 2007 I'm rooting for Alonso, Wouldn't be to upset if Raikkonen wins, Couldn't stand the thought of that little two faced British git winning Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #3 October 20, 2007 Quote I'm rooting for Alonso, Wouldn't be to upset if Raikkonen wins, Couldn't stand the thought of that little two faced British git winning This is the first time I've really paid much attention to F1, so I didn't start with any faviorites. So I'm rooting for Hamilton just because he will set so many records. Do you think he had any ting to do with the espionage deal? "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #4 October 20, 2007 Quote Alonso, Raikkonen, or Hamilton will be F1 World Champion tomorrow after the race in Brazil. They have 103, 100, and 107 points respectively. Almost certainly yesZep: How can you possibly think Alonso has acted more respectably than Hamilton this year? He's thrown his toys out of the pram and slagged off his boss at every single opportunity. A few days ago Nikki Lauda said that if he was Ron Dennis he'd present Alonso with a lawsuit for breach of contractDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #5 October 20, 2007 QuoteDo you think he had any ting to do with the espionage deal? Absolutely no evidence to suggest that Hamilton knew anything about it - if indeed there was anything to know about in terms of illegally gained information being actively used by the team. If anything, De La Rosa and Alonso were getting some information and were actively keeping it from Hamilton.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 October 20, 2007 ...and whoever wins... are they going to NASCAR, too?Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #7 October 20, 2007 Quote ...and whoever wins... are they going to NASCAR, too? Only the guys who can't win in F1 go to NASCARDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #8 October 20, 2007 I don't know if the drivers had anything to do with the espionage, I hope not. Jakee, When Ron Dennis signed Alonso he knew exactly what he was getting, When Dennis started showing favoritism to his second driver I think Alonso had every right to throw a few tantrums, Alonso is the kind of person that will call a spade a spade, thats the typical Spanish attitude. Hamilton from what I've seen will smile at your face whilst stabbing you in the back (my opinion) Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings 0 #9 October 20, 2007 Can't win and whine about it, I might add. Why don't you just go to the police station in a red clown suit and let everybody know what we're doing here? I have a phobia for moobs. Thanks, youknowwhoyouare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #10 October 20, 2007 Quote Quote ...and whoever wins... are they going to NASCAR, too? Only the guys who can't win in F1 go to NASCAR Well, considering, NASCAR is the most watched, drivers get bocoup bucks, not to mention, more 'attention' and with Villeneuve, Franchitti and others 'making the move'... I just figured F-1 guys would follow.Looks to me like, those 'good ol' boys' who ran 'shine', had a good idea! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #11 October 20, 2007 Are there boobs involved?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #12 October 20, 2007 QuoteAre there boobs involved? That's another reason! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #13 October 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteAre there boobs involved? That's another reason! Chuck you didn't answer my question--are there boobs?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 October 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Are there boobs involved? That's another reason! Chuck you didn't answer my question--are there boobs? Yeah, one or two! Franchitti, just screwed-up and wrecked-out (truck race) I thought you said 'boobies'!...and yes, there are boobies, too! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #15 October 20, 2007 Quote Well, considering, NASCAR is the most watched, Only in the USA. Quote drivers get bocoup bucks Y'wanna talk boucoup bucks? In 2004 (the first set of figures I found) Jeff Gordon was the highest total earner in NASCAR taking home $19.3Mil. Michael Schumacher took home $80Mil. More than 4 times as much! That's some really easy financial maths there - even for a redneck Quote not to mention, more 'attention' Only in the USA. Everywhere else F1 has more money, more glamour, more attention, more everything. I don't blame you for getting confused though, you're an American. The concept of a Global sport is obviously alien to youDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #16 October 20, 2007 QuoteWhen Ron Dennis signed Alonso he knew exactly what he was getting, When Dennis started showing favoritism to his second driver I think Alonso had every right to throw a few tantrums, Like what? Give me one documented case of favouritism from the team. Alonso started getting pissy because he wasn't given preferential treatment, not equal treatment - and he is on record as saying that.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #17 October 20, 2007 Hamilton makes $500,000 this year and his teammate Alonzo makes $10,000,000. I read somewhere that Ferrari might try to buy Hamilton for 2008 at over $40,000,000. Talk about a raise. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #18 October 20, 2007 Quote Hamilton makes $500,000 this year and his teammate Alonzo makes $10,000,000. I read somewhere that Ferrari might try to buy Hamilton for 2008 at over $40,000,000. Talk about a raise. There was bit of talk a few races ago, but Raikkonen's got a contract at Ferrari 'till the end of 2009 and Massa's just resigned 'till 2010. No vacancies at Ferrari. Hamilton will stay at McLaren for a while, but you can be sure they're negotiating a massive raise! Can't see Alonso staying at Macca thoughEdit: $10,000,000 is also a very low estimate for Alonso's salary this year. I haven't seen any figures that aren't well over twice thatDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #19 October 21, 2007 Quote Quote Well, considering, NASCAR is the most watched, Only in the USA. Quote drivers get bocoup bucks Y'wanna talk boucoup bucks? In 2004 (the first set of figures I found) Jeff Gordon was the highest total earner in NASCAR taking home $19.3Mil. Michael Schumacher took home $80Mil. More than 4 times as much! That's some really easy financial maths there - even for a redneck Quote not to mention, more 'attention' Only in the USA. Everywhere else F1 has more money, more glamour, more attention, more everything. I don't blame you for getting confused though, you're an American. The concept of a Global sport is obviously alien to you I'll ignore all your snobbish little jabs. What I don't like is all these open-wheel drivers wanting to get into NASCAR! I don't know anything about F-1, I don't care about F-1. You have all the answers... you tell me! Nice try with the 'laugh face' Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #20 October 21, 2007 F1 racing is awesome because they actually have to do some technical driving It is more than left turn left turn left turn left turnDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #21 October 21, 2007 QuoteF1 racing is awesome because they actually have to do some technical driving It is more than left turn left turn left turn left turn Au contrer mon frer! Have you ever taken a close-up look at a Nextel Cup or Busch car? They also have road races where they don't just turn left. What I'm getting at is, with everyone laughing at NASCAR and making their jokes about it... why, do open wheel drivers want so badly to get into NASCAR? Hmmmmm... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #22 October 21, 2007 QuoteWhat I don't like is all these open-wheel drivers wanting to get into NASCAR! Nascar pays well, but not as well as F1. What you are seeing are the drivers who went to F1 with a lot of fanfare, not do as good as they were billed, and not being able to get a contract with the top teams, while the lower tier teams dont want to afford the $ and drama to go with them.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #23 October 21, 2007 That may be true Nascar has several classes, but it is the oval track boys that get the pressDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 October 21, 2007 Quote Quote What I don't like is all these open-wheel drivers wanting to get into NASCAR! Nascar pays well, but not as well as F1. What you are seeing are the drivers who went to F1 with a lot of fanfare, not do as good as they were billed, and not being able to get a contract with the top teams, while the lower tier teams dont want to afford the $ and drama to go with them. Thanks, Remmi! I think, you've answered my question. Juan Pablo Montoya is a good example. NASCAR, has enough 'drama' with Kyle Bush and Tony Stewart! Stewart, is one who came from open-wheel and has really done good! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #25 October 21, 2007 Quote Quote Hamilton makes $500,000 this year and his teammate Alonzo makes $10,000,000. I read somewhere that Ferrari might try to buy Hamilton for 2008 at over $40,000,000. Talk about a raise. There was bit of talk a few races ago, but Raikkonen's got a contract at Ferrari 'till the end of 2009 and Massa's just resigned 'till 2010. No vacancies at Ferrari. Hamilton will stay at McLaren for a while, but you can be sure they're negotiating a massive raise! Can't see Alonso staying at Macca thoughEdit: $10,000,000 is also a very low estimate for Alonso's salary this year. I haven't seen any figures that aren't well over twice that Good point about the $10,000,000. I came up with that number from one report that said Hamilton makes 1/20th what Alonzo makes, and another report that said hamilton makes $500,000. Alonzo should definitely be getting more than $10 Mil. The sites are linked below. Do you know anything about how F1 teams are financed? The cost of running a coulple cars for a season must be close to $500,000,000. Where do they get the money? The cars aren't exactly rolling billboards. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6739559.stm http://www.muchhalasworld.com/2007/05/31/rumour-hamilton-to-ferrari/ "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
