masterrigger1 2 #1 February 10, 2006 Anyone looking for a great machine for their shop/loft. Ebay has one that is starting to get very hard to find. Ends soon - better hurry and looks like a great price. Search under Pfaff 238. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,071 #2 February 11, 2006 Hi Mark, Some thoughts: 1. I think this is the zig-zag that Kelly F at Velocity uses and likes. 2. Not a lot of parts still available; at least so I've been told by those in the business. 3. The 438 is a better later version. But hard to find; I spent months looking and ended up with a Bernina 217. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #3 February 11, 2006 We have a 138 and a 238. Never ahd to buy anythign except for a bobbin case for either one. The 138 is my favorite of the two. If I were to have only one machine in a shop, it'd be a 138VSE on Facebook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteS 0 #4 February 11, 2006 My 138 is so sweet I'd marry it, but that'd be weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #5 February 11, 2006 You mean the old 138 I used? If you wish to marry it, you have my blessing. It's a great machine and wish it were mine.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #6 February 12, 2006 Jerry, Yeah, I knew kelly had a couple of Pfaffs running in the shop. I did think they where both 238, now I know better. Parts are readily available for them in terms of what wears out and breaks. I know a few lofts that have them and they are good machines. The 438 is a heavier duty machine and at least three times the cost. It also does not sew lighter material as well as the 238. How's the 269 doing?? MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,071 #7 February 12, 2006 Mark, I'm having lots of fun with. Just a kid with a new toy. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aironscott 3 #8 February 12, 2006 Mel- Good machines are worth their weight in gold. No doubt. The Pfaff Zig Zaggers are good. But if someone wants to get a machine that will stand up to the test I have to say that the Bernina 217 is the way to go. If I could only have one machine in my shop (and luckily I don't have to make that choice) I would choose a Bernina. Its probably a geographical thing, meaning that a lot of us on the left coast have them, but they seem to be bullit proof. Finding either a Pfaff or a Bernina can be a daunting task, so if someone is looking for one and there is one available, get it! Just be careful that if you are ebay bidding please try not to jack the price up on a fellow rigger. Denny Crane P.S. Any chance that you have any mc-4's in your loft that you can measure lines (and cascades, and break settings) on? I have a bunch of canopies sans lines and a bunch of flat dacron but I need a schematic on the line sets. Para Frieght doesn't quite give me the info on how to properly make a line set.“God Damn Mountain Dew MotherFuckers!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #9 February 12, 2006 Denny, I will PM you with the info you need for the MC-4 on Monday! I have it here somewhere. I've got to dig it out first! To be truthful, I have never operated a 217. Have to see if one is around here anywhere. MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aironscott 3 #10 February 13, 2006 Mel- I would love for you to sit and sew on a Bernina. When you get the chance to do so, you will not be dissappointed. I promise. You know how we all like 7-33s for harness work? I have the same fondness for Bernina 304 and 308's(if you can find one). They rock. Here is what I already have on the mc-4. I've got manuals and trim charts. What I am looking for is a schematic that tells me exactly where to attach b and d lines to the a's and c's and how long they should be and how long to make the control lines. According to some of my people they make great big boy base canopies. If you have that info and can send it to me I'll be your best friend. Denny Crane Aaron“God Damn Mountain Dew MotherFuckers!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites