apieceofsky 0 #1 November 15, 2005 HOWS IT? IM GETTING A NEW MAIN THIS WEEK, SHOULD I GO FOR SABRE2 OR SAPHIRE2? IVE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT BOTH! IM TOLD THEYR SIMILAR EXCEPT THE SAPHIRE2 OPENS SOFTER WHICH SUITS ME COZ MY BACK IS NASTY- I CANT AFFORD HARD OPENINGS. this will be my firt canopy. opinions please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites darkwing 4 #2 November 15, 2005 You need to do more research. I assume it is possible to demo canopies in the UK, so you should. Another canopy in the same class as the two you mention is the Pilot, by Aerodyne. The best scenario is for you to jump all three of them and then make your decision. Discuss which size to try with your DZ authorities. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragon2 0 #3 November 15, 2005 They will fly a bit different, you may like one better than the other, but if I were you I'd go for either a pilot or safire 1/2. I've seen a few sabre2's that have unpredictable (or even predictable ) hard and/or off heading openings. The safire2 I'm jumping now has rediculously slow openings, ditto for the safire1 I have 80 jumps on, and the pilot I jumped a few times opened nice and slow. Any canopy CAN open hard but I'd put my faith in these rather than in a sabre2. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jas8472 0 #4 November 15, 2005 buy a pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #5 November 15, 2005 At least try a Pilot :). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mostly_Harmless 0 #6 November 15, 2005 Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone flew a Fusion from Percision Aerodynamics?? I would love to know how it compares to a pilot, safire2, sabre2._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spoons 0 #7 November 15, 2005 The safire2 opens a little slower than a sabre2, but in my experience both open very softly anyway! (almost 1000ft openings on both). I find the the safire2 is less 'searchy' on opening, but I've never had problems with my sabre2 either...so far Both canopies flare and land nicely (although require different 'styles' of flare), but I prefer the flare characteristics of the sabre2 more. Unfortunately I've never had a chance to jump a Pilot but I've also heard good reports about it so best not disregard that option As people have already said - if you can, demo the canopies and then you can choose the one you like Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #8 November 15, 2005 Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone flew a Fusion from Percision Aerodynamics?? I would love to know how it compares to a pilot, safire2, sabre2Quote Quit hijacking his thread and telling him about canopies he doesn't want to know about, unless of course its the Pilot you're talking about Seriously though to the original poster, the pilot rocks, i don't have a single complaint about the canopy and I've put about 175 jumps on mine. And out of those jumps only two bad openings, one was my fault and the other two were those ranom bad openings you'll get every hundred jumps or so regardless.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites koppel 3 #9 November 15, 2005 Pilot's where its at! Better (read more consistant) openings, great for progression and muchmore bang for your buck I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ncfitzge 0 #10 November 15, 2005 Personally I say a nice 200 thread count bed sheet.#148 Sonic Scrat "Have you ever kissed a rabbit between the eyes?" Woodpecker pulling out his pants pockets to the waitress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #11 November 15, 2005 In my opinion: -I would go with Safire2. -You can't go wrong between Sabre2 and Safire2 -I didn't like the Pilot at all Bottom line: try them! Zoodive.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tso-d_chris 0 #12 November 15, 2005 QuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #13 November 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. I tried a brand new pilot 150 and it felt like a very big canopy. I like canopies that are a little more responsive to toggle inputs and sabre2 or Safire2 seemed better at the time. Again that's my personal experience. I did hear good things about Pilots, I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... but again I've never had any issues with them since I've never owned one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #14 November 15, 2005 Quote I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... ! What kind of things have you heard? I've yet to hear anything negative about their stuff and I'm kind of curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #15 November 15, 2005 Quotei don't have a single complaint about the canopy But, I do have: high front riser pressure. I don't think it's a big deal. No canopy can be outstanding for every aspect. I love mine the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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darkwing 4 #2 November 15, 2005 You need to do more research. I assume it is possible to demo canopies in the UK, so you should. Another canopy in the same class as the two you mention is the Pilot, by Aerodyne. The best scenario is for you to jump all three of them and then make your decision. Discuss which size to try with your DZ authorities. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #3 November 15, 2005 They will fly a bit different, you may like one better than the other, but if I were you I'd go for either a pilot or safire 1/2. I've seen a few sabre2's that have unpredictable (or even predictable ) hard and/or off heading openings. The safire2 I'm jumping now has rediculously slow openings, ditto for the safire1 I have 80 jumps on, and the pilot I jumped a few times opened nice and slow. Any canopy CAN open hard but I'd put my faith in these rather than in a sabre2. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #5 November 15, 2005 At least try a Pilot :). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #6 November 15, 2005 Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone flew a Fusion from Percision Aerodynamics?? I would love to know how it compares to a pilot, safire2, sabre2._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spoons 0 #7 November 15, 2005 The safire2 opens a little slower than a sabre2, but in my experience both open very softly anyway! (almost 1000ft openings on both). I find the the safire2 is less 'searchy' on opening, but I've never had problems with my sabre2 either...so far Both canopies flare and land nicely (although require different 'styles' of flare), but I prefer the flare characteristics of the sabre2 more. Unfortunately I've never had a chance to jump a Pilot but I've also heard good reports about it so best not disregard that option As people have already said - if you can, demo the canopies and then you can choose the one you like Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #8 November 15, 2005 Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone flew a Fusion from Percision Aerodynamics?? I would love to know how it compares to a pilot, safire2, sabre2Quote Quit hijacking his thread and telling him about canopies he doesn't want to know about, unless of course its the Pilot you're talking about Seriously though to the original poster, the pilot rocks, i don't have a single complaint about the canopy and I've put about 175 jumps on mine. And out of those jumps only two bad openings, one was my fault and the other two were those ranom bad openings you'll get every hundred jumps or so regardless.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites koppel 3 #9 November 15, 2005 Pilot's where its at! Better (read more consistant) openings, great for progression and muchmore bang for your buck I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ncfitzge 0 #10 November 15, 2005 Personally I say a nice 200 thread count bed sheet.#148 Sonic Scrat "Have you ever kissed a rabbit between the eyes?" Woodpecker pulling out his pants pockets to the waitress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #11 November 15, 2005 In my opinion: -I would go with Safire2. -You can't go wrong between Sabre2 and Safire2 -I didn't like the Pilot at all Bottom line: try them! Zoodive.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tso-d_chris 0 #12 November 15, 2005 QuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #13 November 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. I tried a brand new pilot 150 and it felt like a very big canopy. I like canopies that are a little more responsive to toggle inputs and sabre2 or Safire2 seemed better at the time. Again that's my personal experience. I did hear good things about Pilots, I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... but again I've never had any issues with them since I've never owned one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #14 November 15, 2005 Quote I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... ! What kind of things have you heard? I've yet to hear anything negative about their stuff and I'm kind of curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #15 November 15, 2005 Quotei don't have a single complaint about the canopy But, I do have: high front riser pressure. I don't think it's a big deal. No canopy can be outstanding for every aspect. I love mine the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
GQ_jumper 4 #8 November 15, 2005 Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone flew a Fusion from Percision Aerodynamics?? I would love to know how it compares to a pilot, safire2, sabre2Quote Quit hijacking his thread and telling him about canopies he doesn't want to know about, unless of course its the Pilot you're talking about Seriously though to the original poster, the pilot rocks, i don't have a single complaint about the canopy and I've put about 175 jumps on mine. And out of those jumps only two bad openings, one was my fault and the other two were those ranom bad openings you'll get every hundred jumps or so regardless.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites koppel 3 #9 November 15, 2005 Pilot's where its at! Better (read more consistant) openings, great for progression and muchmore bang for your buck I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ncfitzge 0 #10 November 15, 2005 Personally I say a nice 200 thread count bed sheet.#148 Sonic Scrat "Have you ever kissed a rabbit between the eyes?" Woodpecker pulling out his pants pockets to the waitress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #11 November 15, 2005 In my opinion: -I would go with Safire2. -You can't go wrong between Sabre2 and Safire2 -I didn't like the Pilot at all Bottom line: try them! Zoodive.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tso-d_chris 0 #12 November 15, 2005 QuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZooDive 0 #13 November 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. I tried a brand new pilot 150 and it felt like a very big canopy. I like canopies that are a little more responsive to toggle inputs and sabre2 or Safire2 seemed better at the time. Again that's my personal experience. I did hear good things about Pilots, I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... but again I've never had any issues with them since I've never owned one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #14 November 15, 2005 Quote I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... ! What kind of things have you heard? I've yet to hear anything negative about their stuff and I'm kind of curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #15 November 15, 2005 Quotei don't have a single complaint about the canopy But, I do have: high front riser pressure. I don't think it's a big deal. No canopy can be outstanding for every aspect. I love mine the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
koppel 3 #9 November 15, 2005 Pilot's where its at! Better (read more consistant) openings, great for progression and muchmore bang for your buck I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncfitzge 0 #10 November 15, 2005 Personally I say a nice 200 thread count bed sheet.#148 Sonic Scrat "Have you ever kissed a rabbit between the eyes?" Woodpecker pulling out his pants pockets to the waitress Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZooDive 0 #11 November 15, 2005 In my opinion: -I would go with Safire2. -You can't go wrong between Sabre2 and Safire2 -I didn't like the Pilot at all Bottom line: try them! Zoodive.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #12 November 15, 2005 QuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZooDive 0 #13 November 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteI didn't like the Pilot at all Why not? Most people seem to really like them. I tried a brand new pilot 150 and it felt like a very big canopy. I like canopies that are a little more responsive to toggle inputs and sabre2 or Safire2 seemed better at the time. Again that's my personal experience. I did hear good things about Pilots, I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... but again I've never had any issues with them since I've never owned one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #14 November 15, 2005 Quote I also heard bad things about Aerodyne quality control from several riggers and instructors... ! What kind of things have you heard? I've yet to hear anything negative about their stuff and I'm kind of curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 November 15, 2005 Quotei don't have a single complaint about the canopy But, I do have: high front riser pressure. I don't think it's a big deal. No canopy can be outstanding for every aspect. I love mine the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
