inzite 0 #1 April 11, 2005 Okay, so I'm an American living abroad at the moment. I just picked up a Mirage G3 container and Tempo reserve. All covered under US TSO certs. However, for the main, I decided to go with something a little more local, and threw down for a canopy from the little known (in the US) Russian company, Paraavis. http://www.paraavis.com The main looks to be in great shape, well built, professional, all ZP, and so on. In short, inspecting it visually, it looks on par with anything PD or the other manufacturers produce. However, it's not TSO'd in the US. In another 9 months I'll be returning to the states, and would like to bring it back with me to use there (after thorough testing here, of course). Does anyone know if it's legal to jump a non TSO'd main in the US if the container and reserve are all up to snuff and TSO'd? Here's what I think is the appropriate section from the SIM: QuoteNo person may conduct a parachute operation using a sin- gle-harness, dual-parachute system, and no pilot in command of an aircraft may allow any person to conduct a parachute operation from that aircraft using a single-harness, dual-para- chute system, unless that system has at least one main para- chute, one approved reserve parachute, and one approved sin- gle person harness and container that are packed as follows: (a) The main parachute must have been packed within 120 days before the date of its use by a certificated parachute rigger, the person making the next jump with that para- chute, or a non-certificated person under the direct supervision of a certificated parachute rigger. (b) The reserve parachute must have been packed by a cer- tificated parachute rigger— (1) Within 120 days before the date of its use, if its canopy, shroud, and harness are composed exclusive- ly of nylon, rayon, or similar synthetic fiber or mate- rial that is substantially resistant to damage from mold, mildew, and other fungi, and other rotting agents propagated in a moist environment; or (2) Within 60 days before the date of its use, if it is composed of any amount of silk, pongee, or other natural fiber, or material not specified in paragraph (b)(1) of this section. (c) If installed, the automatic activation device must be maintained in accordance with manufacturer instructions for that automatic activation device. From looking at the SIM, my first impression is that I should be good to go. I'm assuming the key phrase is "one approved reserve parachute, and one approved single person harness and container." Anybody have any more concrete experience? I'd hate to get back to the states with a canopy I can't jump and can't sell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inzite 0 #2 April 11, 2005 By the way, I did a pretty thorough search for previous posts on this subject and didn't find anything. Apologies if I'm bringing up an issue that's been addressed before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #3 April 11, 2005 People have jumped home-built canopies. I'm quite sure you're good to go. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #4 April 11, 2005 You can jump something you made out of tissue paper if you wish. You must have a US TSO'd harness and reserve though. Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #5 April 11, 2005 Yup...what they said. Main canopies aren't TSO'd.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inzite 0 #6 April 11, 2005 Cool,Thanks for all the swift replies - I learn something new every day.Big Blue Ones,WillP.S. I'll be sure to post some info about the Scorpion once I've had a chance to put it through its paces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 55 #7 April 11, 2005 QuoteYou can jump something you made out of tissue paper if you wish. You must have a US TSO'd harness and reserve though. rigging65 said that "you can jump whatever you want...as long as your intent upon exiting is to land the canopy you are deploying as your "main". If you want to jump a bedsheet (literally), and don't plan on landing it, legally you must have at least 2 other canopies. The law states you must have one parachute on your back that you don't plan on using except in the case of an unforeseen emergency, and that canopy must be TSO'd (US rules)." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #8 April 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou can jump something you made out of tissue paper if you wish. You must have a US TSO'd harness and reserve though. rigging65 said that "you can jump whatever you want...as long as your intent upon exiting is to land the canopy you are deploying as your "main". If you want to jump a bedsheet (literally), and don't plan on landing it, legally you must have at least 2 other canopies. The law states you must have one parachute on your back that you don't plan on using except in the case of an unforeseen emergency, and that canopy must be TSO'd (US rules)." You can't land tissue paper? True, but not the point of his question. His question was "are mains are TSO'd", and "could he jump a parachute not made in the US" and the answer is, mains are not TSO'd and anyone can build one and jump it themselves. He should feel free to bring the main parachute to the US and jump it.Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 6 #9 April 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou can jump something you made out of tissue paper if you wish. You must have a US TSO'd harness and reserve though. rigging65 said that "you can jump whatever you want...as long as your intent upon exiting is to land the canopy you are deploying as your "main". If you want to jump a bedsheet (literally), and don't plan on landing it, legally you must have at least 2 other canopies. The law states you must have one parachute on your back that you don't plan on using except in the case of an unforeseen emergency, and that canopy must be TSO'd (US rules)." You can't land tissue paper? True, but not the point of his question. His question was "are mains are TSO'd", and "could he jump a parachute not made in the US" and the answer is, mains are not TSO'd and anyone can build one and jump it themselves. He should feel free to bring the main parachute to the US and jump it.Be safe. Ed Answer: NO. That being said don't try to land a tissue paper canopy. Go with a proven design. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #10 April 12, 2005 QuoteAnswer: NO. That being said don't try to land a tissue paper canopy. Go with a proven design. ummm....ok. Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites