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Yes retire it for sure and give it to me lol Nah if its in good nick i wouldnt worry about it my last skydive container and reserve were made in 1990...no dramas Also my base canopy is dom 96 FTMC

U can skydive with a rig and no jumpsuit...not the other way round lol.....and nah i would get a rig first atleast u can still jump and not spend shitloads renting a rig...depending on how much a rig costs to rent that is.. FTMC

I got a vector micron recently and was suprised at where the closing loop position had been moved to the bottom of the pack tray with a long closing loop that looks like it wants to cut the dbag in half... all the microns i have seen have had them in the normal spot not on the very bottom like mine Apparently they did this for a better looking closed rig? Im not sure but i hate it and want to change it FTMC

I have seen someone lightly loaded bout 60kgs land a raven3 (249) without flaring....ate shit but no injuries FTMC

http://youtu.be/erh0rsCMEoM Fuck any of that shit lol ill stick to my nice and safe speedwing... FTMC

Just type in skydiving in youtube ive seen a video of it once on there..lol FTMC

Yeh my bridle over or whatever u call it tied the bowtie enough to distort it and go into a spiralling turn and it was a sabre1 ..i pulled on the rears hard a few times trying to stall/shake it clear.(no idea what i was doing)....was low just got rid of it and the only thing i can assume was someone mentioned a canopy can stall on opening and the bridle goes where its not supposed to and maybe wrapped the canopy and went threw a cascade or something like that...i really got no idea but people under canopy above me commented on it one person said they could see the bridle wrapping the canopy the other person said it looked liked i opened and buried a toggle hard in a turn till they realised something was wrong....weird shit but yeh FTMC

Bad luck and weird shit happens i suppose...i had a weird bridle over.. not line over lol bowtied the canopy i cannot figure out how it possible happened everyone said it must have been a lineover but i could clearly see it was the bridle doing it...The more i thought about the more impossible it seemed that i could have packed it...dont even know what to call that sort of malfunction and of course it was on a lower pull then i usually do...typical FTMC

I shall stop stirring the pot...stirring the pot isnt cool anyway]have a good new years people and dont die FTMC

A more reasonable theory would be an average to very sub average canopy pilot can land a micro raven...there will always be fucktards that hurt themselves....the type that hurt themselves on even the docilest of mains...but in saying that if you are flat out landing your main and all of sudden u go striaght to a completely different canopy 7cell after cutaway down low and your freaking out...they flare early hurt themselves and go fuck it wasnt my fault it was that raven they did it....dont you know they have a bad name......haha yes i know people will cry about this post.... FTMC

Its prob more about marketing lol semi or slightly elliptical as lame as it is still sounds cooler then non elliptical square hahah FTMC

Yeh i was thinking with spandex it would be pretty hard to fuck it up so badly that u cant pull it out...and i noticed ppl do alot of different methods in pilot chute packing....see some doing folds in half...then others roll etc...theres so many different ways and no one can agree on whats right lol i made up my own way which is probably what alot of other ppl have done FTMC

Can someone tell me how u would get a hard pull? Are they packing there pilot chute some weird way i just can't understand how it can be so bad that u cant pull it out at all ive seen people just shove there pilots chutes in and have no dramas FTMC

You need to be careful about who you say this to. Someone could get hurt because they took your advice and saved a couple hundred bucks using a Micro Raven. He doesn't say how heavily he loaded that Micro Raven. They will land fine when not overloaded. If you overload it and have a bad landing you have likely made a mistake. But not a canopy flying error, it's a canopy selection error. An overloaded Raven will stall if flared fully for landing, and if not flared enough it will land like a rock. If only a little overloaded there is a small window for a decent landing, that sounds like what he achieved on his two good landings. Above about 1:1.3 there is little probability of a good landing, although you may still walk away if you are lucky. Yeh definitely makes sense.. but if there heavy buy a suitable raven there all cheap...micro or super raven.......and if people want to overload the fuck out of micro ravens then that's there fault not the canopy.....ppl been running ravens for years as base canopies there good canopies... FTMC

I think your just honest and landed it correctly...others fucked up coz there idiot's and blamed the canopy... FTMC

Im glad you appreciate what i bring to u all lol....its a result of having no job alot of time and drinking way to much haha but yeh i like the ravens i have a micro150 raven..also raven1 raven2 and two raven3's....also u would be surprised how cheap u can get wine if brand names arent your game..just sayin FTMC

Long story short the more people that cry about the ravens just means the cheaper i can get one for lol and its a reserve if u land with zero injuries then who the fuck cares....learn to pack also i couldn't pack a pilot chute to have a hard pull if i tried thats the worst type situation to have a reserve pull u dont even get a cutaway or any fun at all...the lamest way to use your reserve FTMC

Usually people complain about the micro raven landings being to hard not the openings lol FTMC

I think you are getting way too hung up on the phrase "high performance". Forget about your Stiletto vs Sabre thing for a minute. The SIM has that in there because we know, or strongly believe, some things: 1) Canopy dangerousness does not scale linearly with wing loading - rather, overall size plays a role. 2) It's a good idea to have this idea written into the safety manual, so people don't just go by wingloading. 3) The place where that curve seems to "bend" is somewhere around 150 (though there are people who would say 135). 4) You gotta choose a number. So choose the slightly more conservative one (or the one that most people who think about this issue seem believe, in this case). So you can take the idea we're trying to convey as "Don't just go by wingloading; smaller canopies are not a good idea for beginners, here is a point where you should start being wary." I catch your drift and yeh i have been told by other people 135 is when things start getting bit more hectic etc....i agree with that more than 150 aswell...but yeh be conservative fair enough i get it i really do...but at the end of the day if someone my weight flies a original sabre 150 and wants to say its high performance then they really have issues flying a canopy and should have never downsized to it early...also it cool classing my old clapped out sabre 150 as high performance i always hated how lame it was but now i can say its high performance and if i ever sell it ill put in the add its a high performance machine just to warn lighter jumpers that must have a deathwish to fly it haha FTMC

The OPs question was (quite reasonably): ***Could someone help me understand why canopies of 150 square feet or less are deemed high performance? The intent of the SIM is quite clear that it is not WL dependent. All the downsizing charts i have read say that a very light weight jumper can jump a 150 at only 40 jumps its the minimum size but its still allowed? I could be wrong but just seems weird coz apparently any loading of any 150 is high performance FTMC

Ok fair enough so someone a little bit heavier then me running the exact same wingloading on a 170 sabre as me on 150sabre is apparently so different i am considered to be flying a high performance canopy but the other person isnt...i just havent noticed this massive high performance transition when i downsized lol i must just have mad skills

I was meaning that heavier people will have different experience on a 150 and cant really relate to weather its starts getting hectic even for lighter jumpers....and I'm not saying that a light jumper should go straight to a 150 sabre coz there not high performance etc so its ok...thats not what i meant its still alot of canopy downsizes for even a lighter jumper...follow the downsizing chart and downsize when your ready and all that.. for me a 150 sabre with my weight is very docile i dont know why people think im talking shit but at they end of the day ill probably hurt myself on anything lol FTMC

No offense but everyone has there opinion but the majority of opinions are coming from the "majority" which are heavier...usually by alot heavier.....for the relevance of the the original forum poster...experienced lighter people should be the only ones that can give any relevance to this original forum post...it cant be argued or tested any other way..coz people can add weight and experience higher wing loadings on any canopies but heavier ppl cant do the opposite....just how it is.... FTMC

Then theres glide ratio.....lol FTMC

Just to clarify that part. Aspect Ratio is the relationship between span and chord...line lenght has nothing to do. Something like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YzSdnDA8SwM/UH6yGBoI2nI/AAAAAAAAAPc/GetwPVdPI6I/s1600/rwnew_2.gif I was just hoping he wasnt serious or miss typed lol aspect ratio is so basic.. FTMC