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Nope, equal trade of wages for time is still taxabe. And worse, if your wage for time slides on the side of "less equal wage for more time", it is still income. No. Can you find the definition of "Natural Rights" in the Bill of Rights? Listen, if you can't find the definition to the word"income" (in the law),how can you be so sure that fair trade of time for wages constitutes income? Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings (damn I like that blessing! it's a "Treetop" original ya' know! Oh yeah, the trade mark is pending but in the mean time feel free to use it at will. So much better than the worn out "Blue Skies" and the overly cryptic "Blue Skies, Black Death". What's that you say? My blessing sounds a bit gay? That's alright! Now I can join the military!!! "Treetop" a.k.a.LORD OF THE SKY

The "Bill of Rights" doesn't actually exist. It's a term(bill of rights) used to describe the first ten ammendments to the USA s' Constitution. As such each of those ammendments define certain Rights of the individual or state. Put another way, they limit the power of government. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Right off the bat that instructional pamphlet mentions the "tax payer". Have you looked to see how "taxpayer" is defined in the tax code? Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

What you place as an exhibit isn't a part of the tax code. It's an instructional page from the IRS itself. It is not law and carries no weight of law. We want to see the law! Show us the specific rule of law which requires you,normiss to file and pay income tax. Not some abstraction like has been posted here in the past. Show us the Law which spells out exactly who must file and define the terms in the statement. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop",a.k.a.LORD OF THE SKY

1. The Supreme Court called the U. S. a "Corporation" in 1896. It also said the legal definition of a "foreign corporation" is different from the colloquial use of the phrase. 2. The U. S never went into bankrupcy. Is this some emotional plea? Are you talking, perhaps, about the strikedown of the Bretton Woods Act? 3. I have some T-Bills (fuck!!). . .that means I own you. Now give me some water and I need to use your studio apt. to house my feral cat collection when I go on vacation. See. . .I can twist words till it conforms to my agenda too. Could you provide us with the definition of "foreign corporation " from the tax code? How about the definition of "tax payer" from the tax code? See.., these "definitions " alter what you may have percieved. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

They both adhere to the Nicene Creed. We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father. < I'm snipping a bit here> If he was God and was able to turn water into wine, do you mean to tell me he couldn't block out his own pain? C'mon!!! Martial artists and Navy Seals do this every day!!! Where is the suffering? Why would you believe that?? Let's think about this. He was buried in an above ground tomb. OK I can see that. Three Days? He died (do Gods die) on Friday afternoon. Traditionaly at about 3:00 pm . Saturday at 3 he's dead(1 day) Sunday morning he's alive and kickin'!!! I see a day and a half. How do you figure Three Days???? OK, enough ! I think with these few examples you will either realize your belief is based on church propaganda or you will already have decided to look inward to find the real Truth as the Master, Jesus the Christ, taught us. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

[replyHatred of freedom knows no party lines. Well you are right about that , Belgian Draft. Infact I contend that all governments abhor Freedom. The whole party thing is just a tool implemented to divide "We the People" Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Quote Here is the problem with the biblical Jesus. If he was a God in a mans' body, there was no suffering and ressurection is guaranteed. You can't kill a God!!! Now , if as Dale Palmer suggests, Jesus was a man who became the Christ, that's a whole different ball of wax. If it is true that one man became a "Christ" than it affords the opportunity for other men to become "Christ"or at least more Christ- like . If Jesus was a God birthed to a human, virgin or otherwise, mans chance of becoming a Christ is much diminished. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Truth, Enlightenment , and Understanding. Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Republican George Bush enacted the "Patriot Act" which attempted to make it look as if the government had some authority to usurp your Natural Rights. Farther in the past, republican president Abraham Lincoln sent an enormous number of men to their death to ensure that the southern States couldn't exercise their Freedom ,the Freedom to choose their alliances and their government as the Divine Architect ntended . Yes, the republican party has a historical record against Freedom. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings through Enlightenment and Understanding, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Actually it's not mere semantics. Something that most don't know and the reason we need lawyers to represent us, is the fact that every law enacted includes definitions of the words used in the bill. Often those words are defined in the bill quite differently from the common definition. Thus my question and challenge. Can any one find the definition of "income" in the income tax code? It is my contention and sincere belief that an even trade (wages for time) does not produce any "income". The trade was even.Nothing extra was gained. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Been done already. many times. . . . .and several more just from searching that case. I'm not a citizen of the corporate entity "the United States" which was formed in a bancruptcy during the Nixon administration. I'm a citizen of the "united states of America". Blue Skies, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Define income. As a matter of fact and law, why don't you look up and provide for us the definition of income as stated in the tax code. Thanks. "Treetop" aka LORD OF THE SKY

TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter B > PART I > § 63 Taxable income defined (a) In general Except as provided in subsection (b), for purposes of this subtitle, the term “taxable income” means gross income minus the deductions allowed by this chapter (other than the standard deduction). Listen "Big Boy" , do you even know what all tlhat means? I'll bet you don't. Now you'll scurry so you can cover your tracks. No need . I am you and you are me and we are all together. See how we run ,together, Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings , for you and yours, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Well show us the law. Show us the law which requires those who earn wages to pay income tax on those wages. You'll be searchin' for eternity; Happy Huntin' Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings. Treetop aka LORD OF THE SKY You have been shown the Law. Quote Bullshit, Show the law. Show the specific paragragh of the law. you can't do it. Show the law. if you could it wouldn't be such a problem/ Show the law.

Son, Can you provide us with the exact code which makes you liable for income tax> Or have you just always been payin because you thought you owed? By what specific law do you owe the federal government some portion of your wages? I you can't answer, Should you pay???? Blue Skies, DJ

TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter B > PART I > § 63 Taxable income defined (a) In general Except as provided in subsection (b), for purposes of this subtitle, the term “taxable income” means gross income minus the deductions allowed by this chapter (other than the standard deduction). TITLE 26 > Subtitle F > CHAPTER 75 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 7201 § 7201. Attempt to evade or defeat tax Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution. What does all that mean mnealtx? It don't mean squat!! Can you understand that the bankers have fucked us but now they have been caught by we the people? Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings, "Treetop" a.k.a.LORD OF THE SKY

[reply Well show us the law. Show us the law which requires those who earn wages to pay income tax on those wages. You'll be searchin' for eternity; Happy Huntin' Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings. Treetop aka LORD OF THE SKY You have been shown the Law. It is enforceable. What I believe is happening here is you are not seeing the actual phrase "you have to pay this" anywhere. The phrase " Tax Imposed" doesn't appear to mean the same thing to you. Look nannook, Show us the law !!! Where is the law??? Show me the law which requires wage earners to pay income tax. Show me the law!!!! Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings, "Treetop" aka LORD OF THE SKY

Well show us the law. Show us the law which requires those who earn wages to pay income tax on those wages. You'll be searchin' for eternity; Happy Huntin' Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings. Treetop aka LORD OF THE SKY

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? LOL!!!! Bill, are you out of legitimate argument??? I guess it's time I get banned! BilVon is stumpped. Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings for all, "Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

Nice.., now show me where I am liable for income tax. What you showed was nothing. Hey here is something you'll have a time with; according to the tax code I don't live in a state. I live in Georgia. Blue Skies, DJ

Quote>The Banks got themselves imto a mess. >What they did was CRIMINAL. Apparently not; not many people have been indicted, much less convicted. Their error was stupidity and shortsightedness. Ironically this is exactly the same combination of factors that led mortgage holders to make the same stupid mistakes.Quote No Bill, What they have done is Criminal. The bailout is an attempt to hide their criminality. That is fact. It wasn't "shortsightedness" or "stupidity". What they did is CRIMINAL. The bailout is an attempt to hide their criminality. Just curious.., Do you even know what really happened???? Blue Skies and better tomorrows through enlightenment and understanding. DJ

Uhm Marc, this is a bit off topic but , you studied law didn't you? Can you find anything in the US tax code that requires wage earners to file or pay Federal Income Tax. Blue Skies, DJ It's already a passed subject in this thread, however, this has been asked many times before. This is the Code that imposes income taxes: TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1 Linkl Filing and paying income taxes are two different things. Not everyone has to file, but everyone has to pay. Really? can you provide us ,nanook, with the specific point of the law which holds common wage earners liable for income tax? Blues Skies, DJ

[replyThe banks weren't in debt when this thing started.Quote See , that statement shows that you don't understand the real problem. Here are the facts Bill. The Banks got themselves imto a mess. What they did was CRIMINAL . The bailout is about hiding their criminal acts. Got Facts? Blues, DJ

Quote>Do you have an extra room or even some basement space wher you >could take a coupke or a small family in? Not yet. We don't have basements out here, sadly. But soon we will (hopefully) have a rental house where we can take a small family in.Quote Could you let just one homeless man sleep on your couch? LOL!!! OK . I understand how that might freak your family out and be a real security risk. Glad to know that you are thinking that way in the future. You are a good man , Bilvon, please let us know here when you take in that homeless family. Unlimited Ceilings, DJ