dreamdancer

when the state wants part of its money it taxes - have you tried not paying taxes? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

You're confusing currency with buying power or value. See Germany after WW1. Millions of marks for a slice of cheese. What had the true value? The mark note, or the cheese? Barter markets did exist before Friedman. Societies were also fragmented and disassociated, unless there was a tyrannical central government, like Rome to pull it together. Doing business with a gladius at my gizzard ain't my idea of governance. View the UK. A geographical homunculus in the world, yet a power, none the less. Why? The awareness that a Central Government with a centralized financial institution, that the People have agreed to with the Monarch, was the better way to go. Brits have a lot to be proud of. all sorts of markets existed for tens of thousands of years before friedman. markets existed before money. money is a necessary add-on to markets to move on past direct barter. i'm of the mind that even money may now be outdated/evolving to a new form. with market trades contained within a virtual/digital framework barter may prove to be more efficient again... meanwhile the state is going to further take control of its money. every transaction its money is involved in will be noted and trailed from issuance to death... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

would the state be obligated to replace the currency they've issued? nope. the state can halve the value of the currency the individual holds just by doubling the supply. it can supply so much the dollar in your hand is worth less than the paper it's printed on... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

there were markets long before friedman... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Why don't you answer that for all of us? Another debater has practically turned backloops to get you to answer ANY question. Orrrrrrrrrr....!! ( Ah hah.!) Do it be that you are incapable of independent probative thought to a conclusion? If so, then I do empathize and sympathize for your incapacity. Having no experience or knowledge if it, myself. Perhaps another poster might know of a medication that could be helpful for you. Best regards.... the state owns the money it issues. if it wants it can recall it... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

pretty easy to see the 'value' of a chicken - not so easy with money... That's why I said it's fiat. The government assigns a value. the state puts a number on the note - the market assigns the value... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

pretty easy to see the 'value' of a chicken - not so easy with money... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

it's a simple economic question - who does money belong to? does it belong to the individual for instance - or does it belong to the state? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

off topic i would say... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

keynes makes sense because he seems to understand the function of money. the monetarists just count their money... (for example - who does money belong to?) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

And..? It's still off the mark, unrealistic, and a proven fallacy. I suggest you read up on Milton Friedman..... True, you may find it distasteful, as he was an American Nobel prize recipient. keynes has always made more economic sense to me - friedman was just a bean counter... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

article by - Andy Haldane executive director of financial stability at the Bank of England in London stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

interesting... http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228425.400-to-navigate-economic-storms-we-need-better-forecasting.html?full=true stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

can't believe no-one got my 'bit by bit' joke

logic says this much inequality can't be sustained economically - things crash as a result... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

more work... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnB_maihzE&feature=player_embedded stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

here's an example of my work... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1uozbQqmR8&feature=player_embedded stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

lots of stones, granite, big army training area too... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

yep, and our farm was a couple of miles north... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

p2p banking has only just begun - bit by bit it could get very big... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

that's dartmoor - our farm was a couple of miles north. we got cut off a few times - log fire lit, candles and parafin lights out... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

If, one can handle all that humidity! Here in West Texas, it got to 10-below zero (daytime temps.) for several days, last winter. We lost a lot of new calves. Plumbers couldn't keep-up, repairing frozen pipes. Summer came and we had upwards to 110 - 115 deg. temps. We have two seasons... winter and summer! Chuck it got pretty cold up on the edge of dartmoor in the middle of a deepest, darkest devon winter. me and my brothers grew up in the back of a link box throwing hay out to the cows midwinter. all that snow, and a hilly farm - luckily roll bars had just been made mandatory... ...yawn. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

same as the last one did with china... (i remember the president even had to apologise) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

No, I am equating an unfair inheritance tax with communism. You're the Communist and/or Socialist supporter heere, not me. I'm fully in favor of self reliance with charity being voluntary, not compulsory. in your credo then all tax is communist - thus you are a communist. get used to the idea

she was swimming on a beach the lifeguards had assured her was safe - that was when the sharks got her... (meanwhile the usual ghouls laud the chunks the sharks have taken out of her) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding