bobjoy9

- - What were you waiting for >>> - - Reconizing the fact is the begginning. Dude you can have any slot you want on any of my skydives. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - In Australia there is ,, It's the last one, over 1'000 jumps and it entitles you to get a B display licence, With the requirements of 25 consecutive landings within 5 meteres of the pit. - - F&*#$ you carried a 357 in your fanny pack , {we call it a bum bag, even if it's on the front} WhY did you carry this 357? There had better been a great justifycation for carring this. Please educate me. I can't wait to hear why,, - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - That was a really cool read..... Man you should write books and teach me how to spell. Why do they call you oz? Cause that's where I'm from. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - Nice one bro,,, That's what I'm talking about, How's thoses feasent hunters? Hummm, beer,,,,,,,feasent hunters,,,,Hummmm - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - That's what I like. Being able to have a descussion or heated one, without being shot. And at the end of the day having beer with one ahother. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - Ok , I started someting that is very touchy for the gun lovers and anti gun lovers. But I was kinda hoping that I would see a pic or two of a cick in a bikini holding something,, enything buy now. So Come on chicks , get to it,, Get that camera out and start shooting. Think of it as shooting yourself and feeding us blokes. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - Hummm, Beer,, ,,, guns,,,,, That'll be a great mix, - - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- -LoL , That was very witty, - - - -- I totally understand guns, They go bang and something dead, or a target gets hit. I really don't like them ,, your right. You got me by a technacallity. No I have not known of anyone been killed by them . But having semi automatic guns being outlawed here in oz was the best thing to happen scince skydiving . And I totally understand that there will be a black market and people will still be shot by them. BUT, you can't deny that the percentage will drematically drop. As for killing animals for food I do understand that . I like to eat . - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- -Man . I totally respect that you don't want to do them and in now way do I want to coearse you into it, But as saying an unessary risk? So Is skydiving !!! I know skydiving is a calculated risk, but it is still a risk, And That's why I am putting this Maunal together not only to teach but to be understood. I need to get a copy to you. I would like to e-mail you personally about this as I don't want tp go further with this here. As I am still dumd F$#@$d why people shoot guns? - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- -I am suprised that you have ferral pigs in the US, We have thousands of then in the north of OZ, and there are many types that are into that up here, The guys who hunt them with guns, The guys who hunt with a pack of dogs and carry a pig sticker{ Large knife , they normally have a name for} And there are the ones who bow hunt ofr them. It's hunge up here our DZ ownere is a gun nut and flies to outback stations out in the middle of but F@*& nowhere and gets hundreds on a weekend. I still don't get the satisfaction factor. Yes they are doing a pulic service getting rid of them - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - Tandem handycam,Glove type,, I need to speak to as many people as possible I am putting toget a manual for the up and comming handycamers, via e-mail, It's in my abaout me section. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - And you can't get that satisfaction from throwing rocks? - Dude, I get the whole hunting thing, especialy if you eat the creature and you need the food, but I still don't get it? How , even if you grew up near firearms does it take skill, you have sights? - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - Please forgive my ignorance and Bad spelling , But what's "Moving to SC in 5...4...3..2.. ? I understand the countdown ,,But sc?? - - -Ps Do you do handycams? I need some people to help with a survey I am doing? - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

I don't get,, Why do so many people, Yes as chicks as well, like guns? I don't understand it. I went with this guy to watch him shoot his GLOCH at the local firing range and he was electric. I asked him about the infatuation with him and his gun and he replied that it gave him a scence of power. Ok, I'am actually thinking that this guy is one of those blokes who goes nuts and blows away everyone at Mcdonalds. I don't really hang out with him anymore. - -- But on the other hand I really like the look of a chick wearing a bikini holding a M16. This is a bit of a turn on. - - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- And as for brusing, Man your doing it all wrong. I watched as a mr bill went horibly wrong at our dz and the bill-e had majour brusing and abrasions from the belly up to his fore head, the full lenght or his arms, etc. Then I was nabbed by a seasoned jumper and he asked me If I would like to do one and show them how to do it. Well this guy had been jumping for20+ years and I was just a grino and at the time was into exploring other factes of jumping. So basically we asked the cheif instructor for a student canopy that was just put out of use and put that into a student harness. We dirt dived the exit a few times. This is were it is gonna sound weird, it's but it how to do it without any probs. I was the guy who held on, So my spot was to sit on the lap of the other guy who was in the p[oised position on the strut of a C182. I wrapped my legs around him trying to leg lock and had both arms through his harness with an arm lock. This is where is really get interesting. WE STATIC LINED THE EXIT. Dumping in sub turminal was the answer. Shure when we left we rolled off and upon the opening of the canopy I found it really easy to hang on. Hanging on was not an issue. But what followed, was about 20/25 line twists. Like a typical gringo I yelled out "@#&$ heaps of line twists." So my seasoned jumping mate reasured me that we were at 10'000 feet and we should be out of them soon. Man did that thing wind out fast, I found hanging on to the expiring line twists were much much harder than the initial opening schock. I then proceed to climb up onto his shoulders, I was facing the wrong wayI had to turn around, This was hard, but I turned around by hanging onto the ever so hard tentioned lines that could be plucked like guitar strings, And placing of of my feet onto his cupped outsreached hands. So now I was facing forward and standing on top of his shoulders , I noticed that the slider was looking like a seat , Hummm" So I sat in it Reluctently placing more and more of my weight into it's fragile history. Happily I sat there as we crusied around untill I decided to roll of at 2'500 feet. The canopy was taken off after we landed and was immediately made worthless, except for the use of windscoks. - -I will try and post a pic of our stack up and post it soon. - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

- - I would have to say that is amazing, Inside your cell!!! Great catch. We have crows grabbing or drogues from about 500feet and if we don't throw the canopy around they stay there till we flare the canopy. This year we are using a smaller faster tandem canopy {HOP330} they have been sitting on the front of the canopy at the leading edge and they tuck in there wings and again if don't go to hard throwing the canopy around they will hang out. for the ride. - - It looks as if they hang onto the leading edge with there talons but upon inspection of the canopies we nave not noticed any holes or tears. - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

I have been editing semi professional & for private for 5 years now and I used to have a fully blown custom extra add on's double pumper supa rear ender with shiny knobs all the bells and whistles, I don't even want to start with the endless trouble I had with it, Won't dare repeat it's name as I am shure it will hear me and haunt me again,,, -- But ever scince I am reborn with MAC, { it was a slog at first} Things have never been so good editing wise, They were made espicially for editing in mind . - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

##@&^%$##(&*% I have some sort upload problem with uploading pics, For some reason the photo exceds the maximum size of 120KB, I seen pics way bigger than this as attatchments, How do I resize it omn my mac / I photo. The current size Is 170KB-- Ok I worked it out , but I had to crop it wich really sucks cause it cuts the pic down . Anyway this is the pic I piont to to show my passangers,------------------------------------------- - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

What's with the little pussy cat photos ? Come on guys, were supose to be tough skydivers Anyway, yeah I was doing the hand on my head raising my eyebrows thing as well, when reading the thread. Did you know there is a very few percentage of people who can actually lick there elbows? I think only 2 % - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

----------- We sell hc- video - or photos or the package which if they do buy the package they get a free t-shirt , I think the t-shirt costs or company $2:50 AU,. After I meet my passanger and make a relationship with them, I will ask the passanger / student {not punter} "If they have e-mail"? cause if they do I say "GREAT they can e-mail their friends & family straight away a photo of them skydiving over Oz, & they can go to the nearest internet cafee," {As Cairns oz is a very touristy town & there freinds and family are usually on the othere side of the world}whilst pointing to them pictures of previously well placed photos of handycams. Then I say,,, "they can purchase the 40 or so pictures or video I shot after they jump & there will be no presure to purchase them." At this point you will tell allot by there peply or body attitude, If the monitary or lack of it comes out , I stop there & reply with a great smile and say, "No worries lets have a great jump." And leave the glove behind,,, BUT, if I read the body language correct or, if they hessitate in there answer posatively,I will reasure them about there is no preasure to purchase the video and say, " That I will take it up with me anyway." But,, Again, I want to be confident in my assesment,{If I see a negative} I might say "If you know you don't want the video, I won't take it" { Have I confused you yet} At this point you will knowif you have a sale or not. My hit rate is about 97% maybe more. After taking my glove with me,,,Also showing them a few well taken shots. I knowof people who take it on EVERY tandem and say "they like wearing thier glove" to thier passangers. And by them doing this they never miss out on a potential sale or should I say "the passanger never miss out on getting there adventure captured." Another thing,,, I don't really know if this helps, I seem to, I think. I have this really cool exit shot photo on the wall that I piont to and remind my passanger to look at the camera when they leave the aircraft and they can have a great photo simmilar to the one I am pointing too. See picture attatchment After opening the canopy I sometime say{Sincerley of course}, "Man there's gonna be some great shots there" With a little laugh,, If any of this is usefull and would like to no more, e-mail me and I will unload, I have done lots of courses on up-selling and stuff. - - - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

is there a www link of riggerrob so I can see these gloves? - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

---------------- Here here, That's what we are talking about ,,,, Professionals. I would like to say that I respect the open opions that tandem make on handycams and I not respect any close minded opionon that some body makes about handycams when they don't do tandems.You know who you are. I am not in any way about to enter into a debate on how it benefits the dz owner by the number of bums on the floor or how it is taking away the outside camera angle, what we must look at and I feel strongly about is that skydiving is evolving and we must let it as tandem handycam is another facet of video skydiving. Now onto the main subject TANDEM HANDYCAM PRE-LEVELS, This is what I think we should do for someone who is looking at tandem handycam, Have a manual with something like this in mind. Here is something I have been working on a sort of note book / Manual. ---------TANDEM HANDYCAM----- MENTAL & PHYSICAL ABILITY ARE YOU READY TO DO A TANDEM HANDY CAM ? Are you mentally & physically pre paired for doing a tandem handycam? This is what you have to ask yourself. Are you ready to add more to your tandem skydive? Do you have you the ability to overcome any added physical disadvantage by doing a tandem handycam? Maybe doing tandems is enough and adding a tandem handycam is too much for you to overcome at your current point of ability.This is where you would have to re-asset your potential mental/ physical ability. The simplest of things that you have done thousands of times before now becomes out of order by adding a handycam into your routine. You now have too apply a completely new routine to you current one. ARE YOU READY TO DO A TANDEM HANDYCAM ? When we add the handycam with a tandem jump, things get allot different. Everything from - ”Have I got all my equipment ?”,To gearing up in the plane prior to exiting the aircraft. ARE YOU READY TO DO TANDEM HANDYCAM ? Sure your chief instructor or buddy's say you are ready, But only you know if you are ready to do Tandem handycams. If you are hesitant against your answer, this is where you must mentally & physically reassures your actions, RE THINK - RE TRAIN - --------------------------------------------------------------- PRE JUMP PLANING - REHEARSAL --------------- PRE-JUMP PLANING It is highly recommended before doing any handycam jumps, A full dress rehearsed from wearing the glove with camera also wearing a rig and going through the range of movements, exploring your dexterity on the ground. Dirt dive your hole routine over and over again introducing situations as little as low battery to a major situation like a malfunction and your course of action. Read the malfunction section to see course of action for a malfunction. Before taking you first handycam up for a jump it would be useful to do a mock handycam without anything on your wrist and go through the motions as if it was on your wrist either a solo or tandem. Then do another jump with the glove by it’s own without a camera inside. By doing this you have a better understanding what you are up against and you don’t have to worry about how good the camera angles are or if the footage is in frame. By the time you are going to do your first handycam weather it’s a solo jump or a tandem with a licensed jumper of the front you have a sound knowledge what you are up against and have done two practice jumps prepairing you and you are already in front of what to expect. Now you have to introduce a plan to add your handycam into your tandem routine. --------------------------------- Lets start at the beginning, When you are doing a tandem handycam keep in mind that the tandem comes first in sentence TANDEM HANDYCAM. TANDEM CHECKS: So first of all is the tandem checks, Do the tandem checks first, the same as you have done before, Rig check,cypress on,visible altimeter,goggles,frap hat if you use one. HANDYCAM CHECKS: Then do all the handycam checks, Do I have all my equipment? Camera, glove, battery, memory stick, Audible altimeter. Wearing a frap hat helps extremely well when doing handycam not only does a frap hat hold you audible altimeter it is also helpful to hold your camera,glove,visible altimeter and goggles for you and your passanger.It’s a hand bag that holds everything and you can put it on your head. Now you have everything, when are you going to put it on? Some people put on the glove straight away when they pick up there rig and keep the camera in hand till they board the aircraft. Another useful way is to keep the frap hat around you chest strap with all extras inside except camera and keep it in hand so you can have free movement videoing your passenger. Once you have boarded the aircraft GEARING UP IN THE AIRCRAFT: If you normally get ready on a tandem 2’000 feet before exiting the aircraft it is wise to put your handycam glove and camera on 1’000feet before this so you have plenty of time to get it ready and the handycam cam does not interfere with your normal tandem gear up sequence. Whilst gearing up in thje aircraft you will have a handycam glove and camera on your wrist, you will have side straps and connectors to tighten and connect.It will be combersome in your range of movements due to the extra bulk on your wrist. You now have keep in mind that you could easly dammage your camera or another person in the aircraft by hitting them with you camera that you are not used to having on your wrist. If the aircraft is tightly parcked with people as it normally is you might have to wait for the tandem master next to you to finnish tightening his side adjusters before doing yours. It might be also advisable to let the tandem master next to you know that you are about to tighten your side adjuster and come through with a handycam. This comunication between the tandem masters is very good practice to avoid camera damage or passangers getting hit by the camera. If you keep a simple routine like this one , or you may introduce your own version it is wise to keep to the plan as so you don’t get out of order. Order is the key to a good plan and a good plan keeps good order. Say, on your first actual jump during pre exit of the aircraft you find yourself out of order,stressed,confused or rushed, your mental attitude is clearly not ready for this task. Simply take the handy-cam off and pass it to the pilot and go back to your origional order you have done many times before then, re-think re-train your rehearsal. MALFUNCTIONS What is a malfunction with a handycam? That is what we have too closely look at. Is It a camera malfunction? Clearly not... What me must do is diffenenciate the tandem from the handycam. Refering again to the sentance “TANDEM HANDYCAM” The tandem must always come first and the handycam come second.This is very important...And must be a first reaction to think of the tandem aspect whenever a malfunction comes into play. When a tandem jump goes well & good all is easy, right? But when things go pair shaped on a tandem with a tandem handycam the first thing you MUST do is go back to basics and overcome the obstacle, simply forget that you have a handycam on your wrist and take action to overcome the obstacle. It is easy to be overcome by your handycam and think of video angels & framing etc., even whilst a situation out of the ordinary occurs. This simple rule must come into play and be over learned. When a situation arises forget that you have a handycam on your wrist and take action. It going to be eaiser to say that the camera was the last thing on your mind to your passanger when explaning you had a malfunction and that’s why the video is not all in frame. You will never get a passanger that will argue with dissicion to forget the camera on such a situation, in fact they will appreciate your professionalism of the final outcome. CUTAWAYS: There have been several cutaways with the handycam and all went as normal, no snag lines or riser hold up’s, It’s not much different than jumping with a large altimeter. -------------------------------------------------------- So what do you reckon??? Please excuse my grammer/ speling I don't have time to check it as I have a plane to catch. It has many other topics encluding , HISTORY REQUIREMENTS EQUIPMENT MENTAL & PHISICAL ABILITY PRE JUMP REHEARSAL MALFUNCTIONS VIDEO/PHOTOS ANGLES TIPS THE FUTURE ETC.. I hope we keep to the on track and work together with this. Bob,,, - - "LIFE IS GOOD - LIVE IT" There's a little bit of EveL Knievel in all of us.

What can I say??? But, this is a skydiving UTOPIA in Australia. It has it all, especially the vibe.