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  1. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Isn't that kid of like what USAFA does? Back on topic, an old Paratrooper or a pilot who did have at least minimal training could explain the chute choices. But we already hashed this out. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  2. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Matt, just to be clear about this: one of Jo's complaints has been she could not get all of Duane's "records", whatever "all" means. As a former spouse, can she get "all of" Duane's military records? Maybe you could clarify that for her ... As his widow, she would fall under the "next of Kin" clause. Matt "Next of kin" is a living blood relative, are you sure she would fall under this clause? you would think a box for Spouse/Husband would apply? Once I was married, JAG had me put my wife on all my SF/DD/DA forms as she was now my immediate "Kin". But to be sure, I called Fort Campbell's JAG and asked, Jo qualifies as his widow. "Next of kin refers to the nearest blood relatives of a person who has died, including the surviving spouse." http://definitions.uslegal.com/n/next-of-kin/ ^ since not every one can open the .mil links, I attached a open source. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  3. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Matt, just to be clear about this: one of Jo's complaints has been she could not get all of Duane's "records", whatever "all" means. As a former spouse, can she get "all of" Duane's military records? Maybe you could clarify that for her ... As his widow, she would fall under the "next of Kin" clause. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  4. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Or if you read section 3, an authorized authority. So LEO's, City HR, some PI's, etc, can get a copy. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  5. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    The level of classification has been addressed. That is not normally applied to a record of one serving. But to add, one can get records through a request process, a SF form is filled out sent in and then you wait. Records for personal will "usually" be limited to duration and locations of service, awards, campaigns, and promotions, etc, actual duty details will be lacking. My 21 years fits on to a two part DD-214, just hits the highlights. Doesn't even include my 225 SL and 3000+ FF Jumps (or test jumps for Development), just says Master Parachutist Badge, and list graduations of the supporting Courses. Today, what Duane did (Fraudulent Enlistment), would be near impossible. Back when he did it, easier of course, he lied, simple. He went to a enlistment office not associated with the Navy one, and tried the Army, they needed warm bodies, he was asked simple questions gave simple lies, and enlisted. The back ground checks (finger prints, criminal record, civil issues, etc) would be done by hand, and if even one digit of a ssn or spelling of a name, is off, he could get away with it. He would have been treated just like any other boot recruit, sworn in, shipped off to Basic, and upon completion then off to AIT. Some where along that time he got caught as a Fraudulent Enlistee and got put out. And looking at his brief Navy and Army time, and records, he received no Parachute Training in either, as well as actual Chemical Warfare (beyond the general basic stuff all SM's got and still get in Basic and recert on annually). Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  6. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Damnit! Not true! The "were" part... And sometimes the "fe" part ! Um. Not really, Mr Mysogynistic. who are those woman supposed to be in the picture? USAF F-15 Pilots stationed with a Wing out of Alaska. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  7. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    You have completely wondered off of the subject. Refresher: KC sends a letter, in it he makes the $150 statement. A question was asked about the Jump Pay, I posted a fact, you "poo pooed" it. Then posted a pay chart with out Jump Pay listed. While complaining about not having "links" to the fact, you post a link to no fact. I posted a link, backing the fact, to appease you, but you decided to try and use the pay chart for a different reason. The question was: What was Jump pay in 1946? The answer was given, that should have been the end of it. The info was asked for to verify the validity of the letter quoted. Nothing more. Maybe you can stop with the high brow PA's (and direct childish ones too) and just stick to factual discussion for a while? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  8. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Your link only goes back to 1949, and does not show "Jump Pay" http://users.skynet.be/101airborne/clancy/506hist_us.html The above link has the $50 a month for Jump pay at that time. Self deluded? How about EXPERT in the field, certified as a MASTER PARACHUTIST, Actually. I taught (Including History) and performed the job for over 21 years. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  9. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    KC states that the jump was "worth $150". This presumably would be military jump pay. Does anyone know how the jump pay worked in 1946? How many jumps did he have to make to receive it? Is jump pay based on making a certain number of jumps per month? Or per quarter? And I assume it was paid at a fixed rate each month. Robert99 Back then, it was $50 a month for Enlisted and $100 a month for Commissioned Officers, IIRC. Now it is $150 a month for both. The quote, seems to refer to making a jump once every three months (reg is actually 90 days), the requirement to stay on status. So he would be an enlisted man, making one jump every 90 days. Other than letters, did the records show up? The pics from earlier would not have been of a Paratrooper. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  10. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    I still don't recall it ever being proven KC WAS trained as a Paratrooper. I asked for this several pages back, I don't recall ever seeing it addressed. I know It is not your job to prove it, but maybe you saw it if it was posted? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  11. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    What is the question you're asking? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  12. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Some times during my 21+ years in the Army I didn't wear my uniform, and dressed, and acted, very different than the "norm", as it was part of what my "mission" was at the time. Even today, working in the Private Security field, I some times dress and act differently than what people think, again, it is part of the "mission". Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  13. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Jumpers like to bitch about things non jumpers do (such as paying child support and staying sober). Jumpers really go nuts when non jumpers opine about anything related to jumping. Most of the people here aren't jumpers, and we are opining daily about jump related stuff, so ths forum is a target for negative comments and complaints. Just get used to it and thank Q for not acceeding to those who want to quash this forum. I cant take any complaints about forum posting volume seriously. It's so easily ignored, bandwidth isnt an issue for text posts and frequent forum posting doesn't overheat or lock up any high quality server chips (because Snow designed them). 377 I would love to kidnap every non jumper who posts to this thread and put them in a nice big safe rig with a huge parachute.... for a frakin reality check.... BUT... there are not enough adult depends in Washington State for what should have been a fun event like that. I'll AJ for you on this! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  14. ^ So far, that is the only honest perspective on the poll results. The result is "Yes", if one whats to say the "No Opinion" votes need to be "No" votes, the same argument can be used as "Yes" votes. Reality is the only ones that count are "Yes" or "No", "Yes" won. Apathy, is a vote for the one vote majority. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  15. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    well that sounds like I'm probably correct about the Canon photo, typically you have a one inch shoe heel Duane was pretty young in the Navy pic from what I recall, puts him over the Cooper limit but within the guidelines. DL can be anything close, they never check, they just ask how tall are you. he was young during his service years, still growing. I was looking at the pic today and that is when the lines caught my eye, seemed he was over the 6 foot mark. so to best sum it up Duane was 6-1 to 6-2 Duane's height was never listed as 6'2" on anything. It was always 6 ft or 6 ft 1 in. PERIOD. You two are saying the same thing. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  16. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    No, you haven't. You've told fables and hurt Jo, insulted many here (should be on a life time ban for it), been kicked off other web pages for your issues, lied, and have slandered a few innocent individuals, but never have proven any thing. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  17. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    None of this actually supports your "story". You still have to put Duane in a Parachute, and then in WA and on the plane at the time of the highjacking. There has been NO proof of any of those things yet. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  18. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Hard to disprove, since both the names mentioned are for dead men. Might need a Medium for a little Q and A. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  19. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Is it a fiction? Her "story" never seemed to gel, maybe her editor helped her out and ties it up better with a few good research sessions? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  20. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    You summed him up nicely. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  21. matthewcline

    CONTEST! ~Funny tandem photo

    The loosened up chest strap in the pick is actually anchored below the shoulders and is loosely flapping about the neck, more than likely cause by the Student sinking a bit in the landing. The T-I looks to have placed his legs ion such a way as to pitch the student forward a bit (feet first, not head first), adding to the appearance of a miss adjusted Student Harness. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  22. matthewcline

    CONTEST! ~Funny tandem photo

    that harness looks perfectly fine, since the leg strapps were moved lower on the thigh to facilitate a seated position under canopy. Much more comfortable then hanging vertical, and easier for most to raise their legs for landing. Also known as the "sit back drill" taught by the UPT I/E's since the very beginning of uRWS Tandem Jumps, and still shown on their, UPT's, web page today. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  23. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    If they have a prize for tenacity Jo would be my nominee. Jo, how do you KNOW the transmission came from an aircraft? The verbal content may have sounded like it came from a pilot but any ground based CBer could have been the speaker. A visual sighting of a plane wouldn't prove it unless you could read the pilot's lips and see that they synched with the voice signal you were hearing on the CB. If evidence has a dozen possible interpretations you ALWAYS pick the one that best fits with the DW=DBC theory. There is a name for this. It is called bias. Glad your new pain meds are better than the prior ones. 377 So as a very uncontrolled experiment and for fun to while away the hours, myself and my shift partner hopped in his patrol car and switched his CB on ( he has a CB in addition to his PD issued radio) listened to the truckers for a few minutes, then when it was slow, we pretended to be a pair of 182's in the pattern for John C Tune Airport. The truckers would jump in and tell us to go to an exit on the Briley and look for the "Pilot", then bust out laughing. But, we actually didn't get to talk to any planes with the CB, on out Hand held, yes, but it is a UHF/VHF radio designed to do that after all. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  24. matthewcline

    CONTEST! ~Funny tandem photo

    Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha Ha Ha Ha! BREATH Ha Ha Ha Ha! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!
  25. matthewcline

    DB Cooper

    Those happened to be their professions at the time of the hijacking, what things did they do in life prior? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!