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I shall, but after New Year. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I think it's "WEEK DAYS" :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

That is very nice. Conducting business honestly always will put you ahead on the long run. Running business for a client convenience but not for your own is always winning tactic. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Thank you Lord :) (Crying) :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Thanks, I e-mailed to him. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Does anyone live around Breckenridge, CO aria who can assist with a finding ground lunch sites in a back country? Few good mans will be there with a canopies from 12.21.07. I heard you can not do it legally on slopes but there are back country sides where it is possible. If you are interesting to participate or willing to give advice I would deeply appreciate it. PM or Call 917.776.0240 I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I am in. But this weekend I might (May be) skip due to the slack of resources and my oldest daughter back from college for Thanksgiving brake. I have to remember that I am a still a father and take all three of them for snowboarding :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Thanks to "Old Dogs" from South Carolina for comming this weekend and making it spacial. Was lots of fun to see us all together again. I hope now we are going to kick ass next spring after everybody "Push" a tunnel this winter. You guys and girls are rock. It was olso very pleasent to see old freeflyers from Orange. It kind of make me feel that we are not "Dead" yet......Not yet :) Joe and Rick. I am very greatful for your hard work. Too bad I did not have a chance to "Kick" Joe in the face, but my head down is comming :) xa.xa.xa. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I have replied. You are more then welcome to join us at 5 PM on Sut. I know your situation, just teasing you :) Sut are fine with me, because I have only one problem in this country, actually two. 1st: I have nobody to drink vodka with and my sweethart do not want to have any more babys :) I know you can not drink, but may be your wife can help me with a second ? I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Respect. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

You are my "American Sweet Hart" :) You never leave me behind, do you? (I wiped a tear out of my cheek) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Thanks Harry. I am glad you posted. And I am very-very thankful for you complement about my English. You know I am not going to make you wait :) Ax.a.xa.xa Harry, tell me. What is happening? This situation reminds me about Soviet Crowd. Someone made a statement and everyone is waiting if he is going to get arrested or not. They are quiet. No comments, no personal assaults (Except yours indeed:). Are they all afraid or just do not want to get started with Russians? :) Tell them, Harry. We lost “Cold war”. They do not have to be afraid :) On Friday 5:30 Leroy and I. Last Friday it was empty at 5:30.Very good time to concentrate on what you doing. Because crowd around the glass is intimidating, you want it or not. Think about Friday 10 min. At 5:30? Do not try to build fucking socialism at your firm in a one day. Especially on Friday evening. :) Lets go and fly on Friday night. “Friday Night Fever” :) Anyone…..Anyone? Friday night? SOLD…. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

It is difficult to convince people how valuable the tunnel is and that you will save money and learn faster in the long run. Derek I see. Is it an expectation that things happens in the world without suffering and hard work? Thanks Derek. Joe Winter did not have to convince me. I came as a jerk with an attitude and he just asked me to give him a chance. Now I am not sure if I can exist without his input onto my life. That is why I wrote this message just to help to the others make right choices. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I am not al.o.o.o.o.oone (Screaming out loud) Thank you Lord :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I have being asked by few people in Raeford if I am going to cook deer stew this year on Thanksgiving at CSS. I really would like to do it. It became a good tradition. But due to my dedication to tunnel this year I did not shot one deer yet. I did not hunt once yet :) I miss people too. Sampson his girl and I have stopped there 2 weeks ago on Friday night. No people, no camp fire. It was very sad. If you talk to Greg Upper or the other hunters around and they can get few deer hams I might cook damn stew on Sat night. I just have to go to TSS and get my burner and pot and the other stuff. I do not know about jumping because I do not get alone with a “Blue” cards or tattoos on a left arm as a number :) but I would be happy to come; cook and hangout with you :) There are really good crowd there every year on Thanksgiving :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

I did 40 min this weekend in XP. My message is not to politicians from skydiving but to those like me for years trying to get to the bottom of free flying dedicating all time and recourses to it denying basic pleasures sleeping in a car and going to drop zones instead of family diners on holidays. I witness this weekend that even top level freeflyers feel a little uncomfortable to be in a tunnel first time. Ego is getting hurt. Thing that natural to them in the sky are not the same in the tunnel. I sow people would just quit after first frustration. I also understood how primitive our skydiving techniques are compare to what you can learn in the tunnel from professionals. I learn about cross control techniques witch were never mentioned in a 5 years me being at DZs. For example: I always thought that if I fall down belong formation the only things that I can do is to turn on my back immediately change heading 90 degrees, come up to formation and get back in a sit at the same time turning my face to formation. With a jumps and jumps of practicing I became really quick with it. I am a heavy dude and it happens to me a lot. So I thought I resolve a problem. Guess what. I do not have to do that. Because I learned last weekend that using cross control techniques I can slow down quick without getting out of my sit. I actually can fly as slow as 150 pound person without splitting my body on Nazi cross. It is very hard work. It is a damn hard work. But how hard is it to compare to frustration of many jumps when you trying to do something and it does not work? Time in a tunnel is golden. You have a professional coach that monitoring every move of yours and actually demonstrating to you your problems and how it have to be done. You can concentrate on your body position instead of thinking about your partners; opening altitude and many more. I believe invention of the tunnel for freeflying as big as the videos for skydiving back in the days. I think it will boost freeflying on the different level. The time will come when we will be smiling at our attempts just to hold a hands together in a head down or sit  This is unbelievable. To me personally skydiving stopped being just fall down from the airplane long time ago. I do not want skydive if I can not accomplish something or make next step in a control of my body in a freefall. It was very hard lately because progress at this stage is very minimal but price for a jumps are groing and more and more friends of mine stop skydiving or slowing down to unbearable level. Tunnel gives me opportunity to work on my techniques regardless of whether or availability of the other skydivers. But most important it illuminates slack of information and gives capabilities to monitor your body every second. I did 40 training skydives last weekend with the best coach you can wish. I did 40 skydives where every second was dedicated to my dream to learn how to fly my body. That is why I am so existed. 1st time I think I am frustrated so bad about my English because I do not think I can deliver my message to people like me, with a same goals and problems, correctly and on the motional level so they would get over any doubts and give themselves a chance. I came up with a few points that based on what I observed last weekend. Beside 40 min of time I spend full 2 days in a tunnel watching the other people to work on there techniques instructors. I tried to spin moves in my head and work it out in my mind before I actually hit the chamber. It old technique from gymnastic. Here few tips that I believe can easy up your first experience in the tunnel and make it more pleasant. 1st. If you think you are advance skydiver. Leave your ego behind doors. You will be much more relaxed and trust between you and your instructor will be much stronger. Witch is absolutely necessary for fast training. IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY. Instead of trying useless attempts to prove that you a tuff freeflyer start working on basics you will get much faster to were you going rather then just doing nothing and burn minutes. 2nd. Do not pay attention how you look and what observers outside of chamber think about you being inside. It will release your mind and attention and dedicate it to WORK. IT SAVES MONEY. 3rd One good advice or demonstration from your instructor will save you many minutes of trying to do it on your own. AND THAT SAVES MONEY. 4th. Give yourself about 10-30 min to adapt to new physical surrounding. Those walls do put pressure on you first time and it takes a bid to get use to it. For me it was about 20-30 min. It could be different for every person. Everything you do in the sky easy not as easy in the tunnel due to the WALL effect. So do not give up and keep working on your goals. Skipping training steps will lead you to hitting walls and I sow it last weekend. You can avoid browsers by increasing your work load and complicity of training gradually. It is boring but it must be done. Writing this message I assume you must have a basic will if you get throw years of skydiving. You going to need that will if you planning serious training in the tunnel. YOUR WILL WILL SAVE YOU MONEY :) 5th. If you only have money for 10 min this weekend it is not a problem. Sit down and watch others do things and built your mind memory on it. IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY. 6th Ask your instructor to set you a goal for this 10 min and work on it. Do not fall short on having fun and waist golden minutes. It is only fun for reach for us it is an expensive training tool. Remember it and It SHOULD SAVE YOU MONEY. 7th Be nice and polite to instructors and stuff. They have very hard job and they do everything possible to make you feel happy. At least in XP. THAT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY :) 8th Do not try to get more then 10 min in first 3-4 attempts. (For freeflyers only). You are going to be so tired that it should take few days to recover. So be smart and start with a small blocks. After 1st 30 min you body will adjust to that type of the work and you will be able to do more time without draining yourself out. IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY. 9th Team up in small groups and plan your time on the 10 min block each. And a last comment: I hear lots of rumors about how to get to the tunnel. Guys, tunnel is not officially open but any of you if you are a skydiver can call or e-mail Kirk and book yourself a time. YOU DO NOT NEED A “CONNACTIONS”. Just contact Kirk and let him know. They are way more flexible then anyone can presume. They will work with you and help you to find right time to fly tunnel. I found a pleasure just to sit and observe how Flyboys teach the others. It is unbelievable to see how something I spend years on is getting done in a 10-20 min. I do not mention any names because it would be unfair. They all are virtuosos. I hope by writing this message I will help at least one person. I am surprised that no one (Especially wind tunnel instructors writing anything like that) Also everything I wrote is my personal point of opinion. So do not be hard on me if I am wrong or you feel different about it. Russian Redneck :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

To me “Size” of the tunnel is a people inside of that tunnel and there ability to teach me how to freefly. They ability to make me feel good as a client and as a man. Paraclete XP is the biggest tunnel in the world in regard of those issues. In a 1H of total time I learned that good freeflyer can do miracles in a space 4 times smaller then XP, but even in a biggest one you might not learn anything if Fly boys are not like they in Paraclete. If management is not looking after you and make there business as flexible as possible for you then size does not matter. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

So.o.o.on, (With a southern drawl) You can not get the beauty of the life unless you lost it. :) And you leave about 2 blocks away from me and you never stopped by. Even you know that you (And especially you girl :) are always welcome at my house. So how much you miss me really. You are full of it :) I think you are just trying something else in here.....? Quiet man :) You know what? I lo.o.o.ve you too :) (With a Southern Drawl) :) One more thing Greg. This is a national skydiving board tunnel part of it. If you would like to say something about flying in the tunnel that would be perfect. If you did not go yet to new tunnel I would be more then happy if you do. I would even fly with you in there on my belly (Not many I would do exception like that to). But I do not think people around US really interested how much you miss me or not. Instinct of ego could be overcome by WILL, perhaps the same as instinct of self-preservation and self-reproduction Thanks for participation Forever yours. Russian Redneck. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Very well said. I could not agree more. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Take 10 before-within-and after You can underestimate tunnel time. In a first shock of AFF your body and mind will have one less problem. It will be familiar with a freefall conditions. Take as much as you can afford. This is my personal opinion. Would simulator help to pilot before he actually fly? This is even more critical. Good luck. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

That is right if he is planning to do belly or back flying. If he is going to freefly there for a first time and at slow speeds. He would not be able to make more then 10. Spacialy if he is 200 pounds club I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

That is what I am talking about :) If we can not change our "shape" we are going to shape the world to fit it :) Gi..gi I know you can do it only on Sunday. Give us a call so we'll be there together. I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Bow, make sure you let us know when you are coming. It might make a difference. Beside tunnel the DZ is only 6 miles away and it is a good DZ with a damn bar right next to the swooping lane. “Redneck heaven” that is what I call Raeford. :) I think I am about to establish official freeflying club “200 pounders” :) I am sick and tired from all this emulations to Homo Sapiens that falling on the head with a speed of 120m/h :) It is time to take over. And we have tool for it that can elevate our big asses :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

Because I am smoo.o.o.o.oz operatoo.o.o.r (I am singing out laud. My co-workers are tripping. ) :) And you might want to ask: “Why are you Russian B..h are singing?” And I am going to tell you:”Because in only two days my fancy ass will go to a tunnel and do some sh.t on Fr., Sat and San. :) Gi..gi That is why I am singing :) And do not worry about accent, give me another 17 years. I’ll fix that………Or not :) I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.

FAT BUSTARDS OF THE WORLD. Come to Raeford and fly tunnel. YOU CAN DO IT TODAY. Drink beer with us. Wait, I am confused……Justin, what should we do first? Drink beer and get bigger or fly tunnel? :) Anyway, if you over 200 pounds without you rig. We have a place in our harts for you and few beers in the cooler. Tunnel has enough wind to keep you fat ass happy. Partorg I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you.