RonD1120

So, by this standard, people who can't have babies can't screw or they're evil, fornicating sinners who are going to burn in hell? Meaning couples who have hit menopause, naturally sterile couples, and couples who use birth control are all in for the big burn? Is that correct? Fornication is sex outside of marriage. The marriage bed is undefiled. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

No, on the contrary, I can't get away with anything. The Holy Spirit checks me. I need forgiveness just like everyone. My only plus, is that I have already established the channel of communication. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Remember, for me it is not ignorance. It is thinking and knowing in the spiritual realm, which is separate from the physical realm. I am in this world, not of it. You are a consummate master of your world but, I don't follow the same rules that you do. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The trick is accurately predicting when your deathbed is going to present. You have no guarantee of tomorrow. None of us do. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

We all sin, we all sin daily. We must confess our sin to God and seek forgiveness. There is no limit. The old bumper sticker says, "Christians are not perfect, just forgiven." I screw up a lot, ask Andy9o8. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

No problem. I only deal with the situation, outside of these ongoing discussions, when the client brings it up. Then I am client centered as to his/her needs, wants and desires. However, if you are asking me to preach against homosexual behavior, I can do that also. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Q1) Why? Q2) Whay did God insist that someone had to die as a sacrafice if he's a loving God of the New Testament? Q3) What happened to all the millions of people who lived before Jesus was even born? Are they burning in hell through no fault of their own? 1. It is God's plan. 2. Blood sacrifice covered sin and granted forgiveness. Jesus sacrifice took care of it once and for all. It was God's plan. 3. They were judged by the Law. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Artificial ignorance, I suppose. It works for me. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

My girlfriend taught me and my buddies supported the teaching.

That is an excellent point and has merit. In my situation, it would have required allowing our house to go into foreclosure. My father was terminally ill and my mother needed my support. I chose to stay in Florida. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You are again evading the distinction between conduct in which one may or may not engage, and innate nature into which one is born. I do not believe a person is born homosexual. I believe it is learned behavior. I cannot prove it. I just believe it based on Scripture. How's that? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

One. And, yes, I did not want it. My wife moved to California and said the marriage was over. I waited a year and then divorced her. It is impossible to unscramble eggs. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Sorry, but that's just nonsense. The innate, from-birth state of being of homosexuality is not increasing; it's just that open acknowledgement of such being is increasing in our society. Also - and I hate analogies, but I feel I have no choice - saying that homosexuality is no longer classified as mental illness due to majority rule is like saying that the Earth is no longer considered flat due to majority rule. Semantically, it may have some technical validity, but that's only because the "majority" have come to replace ignorance with knowledge. If you think you can get these kinds of arguments past intelligent people, I think you'll find you're mistaken. No argument intended from me. I was using the term argument in a rhetorical sense. I think that is the correct term. When I was in graduate school, 1971-73, the American Psychological Association considered homosexuality as a mental illness. The DSM-IV does not. You assumed argument that was not intended. I say it is a complex issue. From the Christian standpoint it is sin. From the social/legal standpoint, manage it within legal bounds. You are starting to reveal emotion. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I hope I say this with understanding, we are born sinners. Therefore, we commit sin. To be forgiven of our sins, we must accept Jesus Christ of Nazareth as our Lord and Savior. To be condemned and eternally lost requires no action. To be saved and receive eternal blessing requires a decision for Christ. It is a gift but it must be accepted. That acceptance is called repenting of sin. Meaning, the sinner must change his mind. You make a 180 and go in the other, opposite direction. I do not have a pastor at this time. I have been married three times. The first ended because of my sinful behavior after four years. The second ended after ten years when my wife left. I think she relapsed on drugs but lack proof. Her main stated reason was that she hated Florida and would forsake our relationship to move back out west. My third marriage is approaching fifteen years and will last until death. You are correct, God hates divorce. With Christ all things are possible, including marriage. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

"Being" and "conduct" are two different things, which all too often, unfortunately, get improperly commingled in debates about homosexuality. Conduct itself may very well be a personal choice; although it is frequently driven by innate nature. A straight person may choose to be celibate, or not. A gay person may choose to be celibate, or not. But homosexuality is a state of being into which one is born; and that state of being, as a state of being, is not a personal choice. Repression, revulsion, rejection, condemnation or punishment of, or even trying to "convert" or "re-educate", a homosexual for nothing more than being born into that state of being is ignorant and cruel. In today's society it is a tough debate. From the Christian standpoint we have the beginning Scripture, And the condemnation Scripture such as the one previous, As well as, Therefore, the argument becomes God intended for man and woman to procreate and other sexual relationships are lust. Fornication in all forms and conditions are sinful behavior. We live in a society where majority rules. Obviously, the number of gays is increasing. Therefore, we have to deal with them. Furthermore, we have accepted fornication within our society as acceptable. Homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness but majority rule changed that perspective. There are classic conditions that predictably result in same sex attraction. I think it is the degradation of society, of mankind in general and, sign of the times that we are in our last days. However, I know that with God a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day. Ergo, this social condition ain't going away. As a counselor, I only address the issue with a client if they bring it up. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You missed the point. I didn't explain it well. If you are gay, God says that is sin. If you abuse your wife, God says that is sin. One is not worse than the other. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

so, in fact, you can "pray the gay away"!? No, the gay can pray for forgiveness and change their lives. I don't have anything to do with it. Personally, I feel sorry for them. They have a tough life. well, i dont think its something that just "goes away", right!? they love their partners too, right!? i dont think in all seriousness that either jesus or god could be opposed to a loving relationship, right!? or, does he? how about husbands that beat up their wifes, but have kids with them? are they better in HIS books!? Sin is sin, there is no qualitative or quantitative measurement. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The sin of man results in spiritual death. Jesus Christ paid the price for all sin, for all men, for all time. If you accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God, Son of Man, His atoning death as propitiation of sin and, His resurrection from the grave you can be forgiven of your sin and receive spiritual life. Sin is sin, it separates man from God. The gateway back to God is through Jesus. so, in fact, you can "pray the gay away"!? No, the gay can pray for forgiveness and change their lives. I don't have anything to do with it. Personally, I feel sorry for them. They have a tough life. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The sin of man results in spiritual death. Jesus Christ paid the price for all sin, for all men, for all time. If you accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God, Son of Man, His atoning death as propitiation of sin and, His resurrection from the grave, you can be forgiven of your sin and receive spiritual life. Sin is sin, it separates man from God. The gateway back to God is through Jesus. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Good one! Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

All sex outside of marriage is sin because it is attention toward the flesh and not God. The Bible considers homosexuality as an abomination and not acceptable in any fashion. It is lust of the flesh. My professional employment required me to work with homosexuals, male and female, as colleagues and as clients. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Major Depression, Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia are best treated, that is managed, with prescribed medication. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I hold a Master of Arts degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of South Florida, matriculated 1973. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I wear many hats. I am a Christian and hold a MA in Rehab Counseling. My profession required me to work in different environments. My job description did not include sharing the good news of the gospel. The last program I worked for had a few Muslim counselors on staff. In my previous post I was thinking about Muslims in the mid-east. Remember, the focus of treatment is to get sober and stay sober, short and long term goal. Next, stop committing crime and learn to be productive, long term goal beyond treatment. The word sober is generic and refers to the abstinence from all mood altering chemicals. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Absolutely. The NT encourages us to assemble for growth in The Word, fellowship, ministry and so forth but, it is not mandatory. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.