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QuoteBecause if your in a job that has any danger to it, what is the first thing that happens if there is an accident and OSHA shows up. They send you out for a drug test and they dont care if the weed is 25 days old in your system. You came up hot! Period. Another reason is something I posted earlier in the thread is insurance reasons also. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote So why do they refuse to give a random UA. I guess I just dont get it. Like I said i'm not trying to be a hardhead here I just want to know why someone would risk there job for something that is soo stupid and takes very little effort. Maybe i'll never understand but please give me credit i'm trying! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote I dont know them, I only repeat what I have actually seen in the work place. If they refuse to give a UA why did they refuse? And please dont give me this "Why dont they trust me or innocent until proven guilty BS" Why would you refuse to give a UA at random. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass here, far from it. I just want to know exactly why someone who is clean refuse to give one. I think it's funny when I get sent out to give one at random and it comes back clean. In my mind it's kinda like "There, are you happy" If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

***My mistake. I must have been stoned. I was confusing you with the original poster. *** At least you have a sence of humor about all of this. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote But those are the ones who always refuse. I'm not making this stuff up I'm just reporting about things that I have seen. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

QuoteWould you go take a UA if you were told to? If no why not? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Why yes I do. There were some people however that dont want to piss for anything because it goes against there so call principle morals or some crap like that and I was trying to make a point there also. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Well pot heads will say thats an invasion of there privacy also. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

***If my employer feels the need to randomly drug test me every so often because they don't trust me when I told them I don't use drugs, why did they hire me in the first place?*** Because I'm your employer not your friend. I dont know what you do at home. So if I want to know if your a coke head at home, thats how you do it with a UA. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

What does that have to do with taking a UA? If you worked for me and I suspected you to be cranked up, do you think I have the right to send you to get tested. If your not why not go just to show your employer that he's a dumb ass! If you were all cranked up thats when you will probably hear the "Taking a drug test imposes on the principle morals" BS. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Well then they better get there eyes checked! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Ok, the examples I gave were directly proportional (hope I didnt use to big of a word there) to the job at hand. What does a limp noodle have to do with him doing his job? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Well I usually don't kick anybody when there down-------thats bullshit I do! I have to agree with Ron, what is the reason for jumping bare foot. I would rather shed some sole than skin! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Some jobs will require that.I just had to disclose a bunch of stuff to get fitted for respirator gear so we can crawl into fuel tanks and a few guys didnt pass the physical because of either asthma of other respiratory problems. If you have a history of having seizures I dont want you as a truck driver, pilot, or working in a glass factory. On my pre-employment packet it says I must be Fluent in English both verbal and written • Must be able to see and hear approaching vehicles, aircraft propellers and machinery that could present immediate danger • Able to routinely lift 75 pounds, climb, bend, kneel, crawl and stoop frequently in confined spaces. I had to have a physical where a doctor said my knees and back were in good shape. So for some a pre-employment physical is a must. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Quote Personal Priciples? Oh give me a break! The only people who scream it's against there priciples are the ones who pray to Bob Marley! I don't know a single non-using worker who would refuse to be drug tested for either pre-employment or post accident. The only bitching I hear is when we had to go take a test after an accident where nobody got hurt but did about $30,000 damage to an airplane and the only bitch was that the clinic was way out of the way from going home. So if anybody want to turn down a good career job just because he/she does not want to piss is a bottle so be it. Thats there choice. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

QuoteSorry to inform you that it is my right! Lets take the liberal point of view here. Your a coke head, I hire you and all of a sudden you find your way in life and want to quit doing coke. Now my insurance has to pay for your ass to go through rehab not to mention there are probably bullshit laws that say I have to give you time off work to sit at the Betty Ford clinic while you sober up and gone for 2 months and then I have to give you your job back when you return. If you want to go smoke, snort, shoot, swallow up on the weekend, by all means do so! I just wont have to worry about you working next to me in the field i'm in. I understood when I chose my profession what I was getting into and I plan on living out those rules. If you don't like it, I don't think McDonalds drug tests all that often. Good luck! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

QuoteI think what Ron was saying is that in 30 tests he has never had a false reading. I have have so many drug tests I lost count. Between the military, employers, now the FAA can instruct me to get one on demand along with my employer. I had to go for a drug test 2 weeks ago just because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. A crew smack the tail of one of our jets into the tail stand and I was in the vicinity of the accident so I was involved so I had to take a drug test. I wasnt even working on that damn plane but I had to go, and you know what? I was negative! Everytime I hear someone say well the Captain Crunch I ate this morning gave me a false reading I have to laugh. I have a few friends who smoke every now and then and one got sent for a drug test and was shocked when he came back positive! I told him I watched you smoke up last night, why are you surprised? It is my belief that who ever comes up hot and then says I didnt do it----- Well lets just say you better hope I'm not on that Jury Panel! Happy trails If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

There is more than one reason people refuse drug tests. *** And what would that reason be???? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

***Mexican Restaurant = Angleton The Best Western = Alvin There is also a Best Western in Angleton also. Thats the one I will be staying at. I didnt know there was a hotel in Alvin. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Well it's not like they can replace my 2000 Ford ranger without an upgrade. To lets say 2005 Maxima! Best of luck to ya hun, Look forward to meetin you at skyfest! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

looks like i might come out with a newer/better computer than before!!! *** If thats the case, What insurance company are you with and will you steal my truck? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Where is this little get together gonna be at? And when? Throw me a friggin bone here! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

DAMN! And I thought getting turned down for a car loan was bad! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

This guy couldnt stroke himself 38 times. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Would anybody be interested in spliting the cost of a 2 bed hotel room. Try to keep the cost down a bit. I promise I dont snore very loud! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!