5 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Dunno. Saying "we did some heli jumps where we did proximity near the Eiger summit" sounds pretty freaking cool to me. 
You can't base proximity at a summit because there's no higher point to exit (Captain Obvious, at your service )

 

Edit to add: Proximity wingsuiting is pretty impressive in its own right. In part because of the danger and risk. Which doesn't change regardless of where the jump begins.

Yeah, proxy is nuts. I'll stay with the scenic flights. Only did one help jump while I was there. The rest were real E jumps, and a dam. 

4 hours ago, science303 said:

I'd just resolve the debate by calling it what it really is:  cringeworthy internet attention whoring.

If any BASE jumpers were even pretending to be confused about this subject, it was because you were desperate to add it to your "BASE" logbook and the people you were paying to take you on those jumps don't really give a fuck what you want to tell yourself.

BASE jumping is done from fixed objects, not aircraft.

 I'm sorry someone pooped in your Froot Loops. 

3 hours ago, SethInMI said:

I can understand a looking for a name for a jump that is from a skydive using base gear and a low opening altitude, just so that you can easily communicate that when talking to people.

I don't know what to call those kind of jumps, using the term Heli-BASE seems to fit the bill...shrug.

It seems most people call it heli-base. 

4 hours ago, yoink said:

No matter how much you want to call it a BASE jump it isn't one. If any BASE jumpers were saying it is then they  were humoring you because you were probably being weird and insistent about it.

I just don't get what is with the accusatory language coming from people. I was initially told it was a base jump, and as I said before, I am not convinced either way.  

12 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Climbing or not is not the determining factor.

You are the one that argued it was, not me. "A bunch of rich kids too lazy to climb. Therefore not a BASE jump." - you

12 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

And I see it as 1-4 that it's a BASE jump. You are the only one calling it BASE.

I'm not convinced one way or another.  

As for a Dam being a "B" the BASE number gods have spoken and it is not a "B". They say it is more like a man made cliff.

52 minutes ago, neilmck said:

How did you do the video?  From the final frames I can see in a shadow that you have the camera on the end of a stick on the front of your helmet, but how is the image of the stick removed from the video itself?

GoPro Fusion, the magic software removes the stick. 

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Just teasing about the "rich kid" thing. But seriously, the question you are asking can't be serious. You know it is not a BASE jump.

It's surprisingly not a settled issue.  We bs'd in the pub for a good hour with other base jumpers. Some thought it was base and some didn't. Some thought a dam was a building and some didn't. Everyone seemed to call it heli-base but the debate was if it is really base or not. One person said "if you need base numbers count it as a base jump. If you need skydives count it as a skydive."

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

A bunch of rich kids too lazy to climb. Therefore not a BASE jump. Also posted in the DZ forums because it would just get laughed at in the BASE forums.

It was $150 and too unsafe to climb due to ice and snow. Also that is a terrible argument. If I go to the heli-boogie, those are still BASE jumps even though there was no climbing. 

7 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

A dam is a man-built structure. B.

Or it could be considered a (man made) cliff. E.

(Building, Antenna, Span, Earth - Right?)

 

In any case, no aircraft are involved and the jump is made from the ground.

By definition (both FAA & USPA), jumping from an aircraft is a skydive. I think the FAA calls it an 'intentional parachute jump'. 

We debated if a dam was a B and if heli-BASE was BASE at all, with many people at the pub. No real conclusions were made. 

So far on here is 3-0 for being BASE

On 7/26/2019 at 3:54 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

When did they add an "H" to "BASE"? (and where would it go? "BAHSE"? )

That's a skydive. It's from an aircraft.

It would fall under FAR part 105 in the US, and require rigs with reserves. No clue what the rules are over there, but it's not out of the question for a video like this to result in some consequences, at least in the US.
 

It's perfectly legal over there, which is amazing. Dams and D and don't fit in BASE either. I think base gear low pull = BASE jump. 

6 hours ago, VTmotoMike08 said:

I understood quite clearly what you said, perhaps negligible does not mean what you think it does. 

negligible: so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant.

If I was going to take a low turn into the ground or smash into a guy who corked out of a sit, I'll take my G3 over nothing. Therefore, it is not "negligible" compared to an impact rated helmet. It provides less protection than an impact rated helmet for sure, but its better than nothing. This is not hard to understand.

It isn't hard to understand, which is why your contradictory statements are entertaining.

Anyway, for everyone else. Drilling the shell of the G4 voids the warranty from Cookie. When it comes to impact rating, the G4 will lessen the severity of trauma to your brain during an impact. This could prevent a concussion being elevated to a TBI or worse.  When compared to the G4, the G3 does not have impact dampening foam and while it may prevent cuts and scrapes it will not do much, if anything to prevent brain injuries. 

Edit: Since it seems you have a rudimentary understanding of this topic, here is a brief explanation of this helmet impact rating. 

23 hours ago, VTmotoMike08 said:

That's what gets me- a non-impacted rated helmet is not "negligible". If you were going to get hit in the head with a baseball bat, would you put on your G3 first, or just say "No thanks, this non-impact rated helmet provides negligible protection". It clearly still protects you, just not to the same degree. It's not worthless or for good looks only when it clearly does provide some protection. 

By adequate, I mean that it protects against the issues that I have a better than not chance of encountering, such as feet to the face. 

If your reading comprehension was better (possibly English isn't your first language) you would understand that I said it is negligible when compared to an impact rated helmet. I can tell that you don't care about about protecting your brain. You care about bumps and scrapes which a non-impact rated helmet is handle well. When it comes to preventing damage to the brain caused by blunt impact like a baseball bat, the ground, or another skydiver, a non-impact rated helmet is not going to substantially limit the amount of force transferred to the brain. 

7 hours ago, VTmotoMike08 said:

What exactly to do mean by warranty? I get that it is "impact rated" and that means a lot to some people but that is different than a warranty. Personally, I don't get too excited about the impact rating. All that means is that it passed a particular test. Lack of impact rating doesn't mean that other helmets are useless, it just means that it simply wasn't tested to the same standard. I've found my G3 to be quite adequate without any type of impact rating.

I mean the warranty Cookie has for the helmet... not sure what you are looking for there. You are correct that an impact rating doesn't mean it is useless. It just means they aren't as good and in many cases negligible. I make my money with my brain and not my good looks (lol), a concussion or TBI could be the end of my financial stability. 

On 7/21/2019 at 3:35 AM, Brillo said:

I was looking at a J4K too - the Sunpath website says it goes down to 190, but I was wondering if a bigger packing 170 would work. And if so what are the “bigger” 170s?!

Edit: It was a 4k. I had a specter 190-170 with no issues. 

2 hours ago, Brillo said:

Thanks for your answer, I’ll look into getting something now then! Yes I’d be happy with low bulk canopies.

interestingly I’ve just seen that the V353 is listed as being able to hold Silhouette 210 (tight), 190 (standard) and 170 (loose). Does anyone have any experience of this?

My old javelin fit that range. I think it was a 4k.... maybe

3 hours ago, VTmotoMike08 said:

How do you know it is premium? The G4 isn't even out yet, so no one has tried it on unless you are a sponsored athlete or test jumper. Cookie must have some incredible marketing in place for the entire skydiving community to be stoked on this helmet months before it even comes out, but maybe we should wait until we actually get our hands on it before determining that it is the best helmet ever. Don't get me wrong, I like my G3, and the pictures of the G4 look good, but that is all we have at this point- pictures and cool diagrams.

They had them at PIA. They are more comfortable than the G3 and have a removable liner that is easier to wash. On top of that they are impact rated. The only issue with that is drilling it voids the warranty. All of that being said mine is at the painters and I cant wait to get it. 

9 hours ago, yobnoc said:

Super helpful...

sarcastic, but it is likely the cause of your issue. 

3 hours ago, yobnoc said:

Has anyone else with a Y Chromosome had issues with the full-face helmets that cover your mouth causing issues with ingrown hairs or acne?  I've never had acne as a condition (besides a couple stray zits as a teenager) but since the season started and I have been wearing my new (used) Phantom V, I've been getting either ingrown hairs or deep zits around the area that the padding covers.  Am I alone on this? 

wash your helmet and your face more.

16 hours ago, mbohu said:

After all, these guys look and talk like they came straight from the local anarchists convention anyway

Rude.

5 hours ago, verticalflyer said:

Oxygen bottle sleeve with O2, for 35k jump.

Makes sense.

On 5/2/2019 at 4:31 AM, verticalflyer said:

I got my rigger to split the BOC into 2 with a simple stitch line and add a bridle cover, I can now select either a top BOC pouch or bottom, as I also was concerned about loos BOC. works nicely now, cost all of $20 and about 30 mins work, images attached, several friends have now made the mod also.

 

 

 

Is that a water bottle stuffed in what looks to be a pouch on the side of your rig?

15 hours ago, JasonBresson said:

I just purchased one of these custom made for me. The sizing was built for somebody much shorter than me and had to be sent back for modifications. Leg straps are paper thin but it’s not likely that I’ll be doing any high pulls. Chest strap is up around my Adam’s apple but hasn’t crushed it yet. The pull is odd. I’ll get use to it but it’s not natural yet.

Having a freefly tab on a Wingsuit only rig seems a bit odd seeing how we point out the challenges of having one to new students. Still not a deal breaker. Just odd. 

I do like the adjustable laterals to be able to seat  the rig against your lower back to reduce the air gap. 

I do like having a skyhook again. 

Packing is about a 3 jump learning curve. Super easy. 

It is light weight

I’ll give this 3.75 stars out of 5. If it was a perfect fit I’d give it a 4.

 Definitely not a must have for a Wingsuiter but I wouldn’t discourage someone from buying it.  

 

 

I think they expect you to buy a snatch. 

19 hours ago, richoH said:

What's going on on the left hand side of your container??

great question

16 hours ago, douwanto said:

I'm amazed at the answers.. millennials believe it is a safe sport and that they are immune to its dangers. It is an attitude from trophy getters not trophy earners. They need to know they can die at any moment and that their actions can kill others.

We millennials learned our attitudes from older generations. So anytime you or any boomer/gen-x that raised a millennial, remember, we learned it from you. 

Anyway, there is no such thing as adding to much context. It is one of the most important aspects of interpersonal communication. Asking "is skydiving dangerous?" is so incredibly vague it is nearly impossible to have a consistent quantifier.  

23 hours ago, billvon said:

Wow, you must have worked really hard to come out of USPA courses learning nothing.

Yep.  There are unethical people out there.  The right solution is to call them out on it - not to blame a few thousand people for what one person does.

Don't feed the trolls.

For wingsuiting I use: 

• 5,500
• 4,500
• 3,500
• 1,800

2 hours ago, Johnkelley said:

The audible I use and one that not many people talk about is the Parasport NeoXs. It's a super simple audible that can do 6 alarms (3 freefall, and 3 canopy). It's reliable and I haven't had any issues with it in the 4 years I've owned it. It's $225 new from chutingstar for the v2 version, but you could pick up the v1 version used for even less (the one I have). I love L&B altimeters and use their Viso for all my jumps, but this audible has given me no issues and I'd buy it again for cheaper than a L&B.

I think every wingsuiter should have a 4 alarm audible; the 4th alarm being a "cut your crap immediately' alarm.

I once did a Mr. Bill (with permission of the S&TA) and had a local at the DZ say he was going to hang out and wait to see us die because we were stupid. Being a visitor I just laughed it off as they are a member of the "in" crowd.