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  2. 2 hours ago, skyfox2007 said:

    Let's do some more math:  what's $.75 multiplied by the USPA constituency of $39,827 (end of 2018)?  $29,870.25

    So it's OK for the BOD to "pass the buck"?  How about $29,870.25 bucks?  That's money we could have used for something that would actually produce something tangible, not some pipe dream that no one seems to "give a poop about."

    -JD- 

    JFC, another fallacy! How is it possible that after I call baronn out for all his fallacious comments, you would come in here and expect to get away with the same. It's pathetic, do better. 

  3. 2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

    Myself, I don't believe he is a troll. I think he is a crusader of sorts who feels strongly and thinks going on and on about it will somehow make a difference. A troll is someone who posts just to get reactions from others. Ironically, I do see that he has called YOU a crusader!

    Going on an on can work when the persons argument isn't riddled with fallacies and false premises. When that was pointed out to them, they doubled down with more fallacious comments instead of correcting the original comments. 

  4. · Edited by meat.missile

    Billvon, aren't you a mod? No one is so stupid they don't know fallacy's make what they say invalid. Baronn is a troll. 

    What is your PayPal, I am serious about giving you 5 bucks. There is one condition though, if you do bitch about this again the mods get to suspend you for ehhh a month. oh and if you dox me you get banned, I believe that's a normal rule. 

  6. I find the Perris bunkhouse to be disgusting. Last time I was in there was 2 springs ago (2017) ago so maybe things changed. It has terrible ventilation, it’s dingy, it smells, it is hot, the kitchen area is tiny. They seem to always stuff everyone in one room instead of spreading them out between all the rooms. They are small, not much room to store gear. 

    I would stay in an air BB or go to eloy. 

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  8. · Edited by meat.missile

    Oh and let's add a little context to what baronn is complaining about. This is stolen from another thread.

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    The USPA has a total financial commitment of just under $300k with more than half being contributed over the next 6 years. Since $112k has already been donated as of 2018 that means the rest will be donated over the next 6 years. At the end of 2017 there were roughly 39k USPA members. Assuming membership stays the same over the next 6 years this means the USPA has agreed to contribute  ~ $0.75 of each membership fee towards the museum for the next 6 years. 

    ~$0.75 per year, I take poops that cost people more than that. 

    Actually, Baronn, I will give you $5 if you don't bring this up again till 2025.... so I don't have to read your crappy comments on the topic. 

  9. · Edited by meat.missile

    2 hours ago, baronn said:

    Apparently you didn't read any of my posts. The whole point of this, was to point out how a project that has been in the works for almost half a century, still isn't anywhere near completion. How is that a fallacy?

    oh another fallacy, you are on a roll!

    2 hours ago, baronn said:

    Yer quick to point out an incorrect opinion but, fail to provide any facts.

    I am only here to dismantle your crappy comments. 

    2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

    Sheeple like you are what allow irresponsible behavior like this to continue.

     

    I missed this fallacy first time around! Barron, try harder.

     

    You are now up to three different fallacies. 

     

  10. · Edited by meat.missile
    So many typos.

    I know this will be wasted on you, but here goes. 

    On 8/16/2019 at 8:16 AM, baronn said:

    Apparently the board doesnt care about how members funds are spent or what they are used for.

    This is  logical fallacy. 

     

    On 8/16/2019 at 7:05 PM, baronn said:

    Apparently the entire board doesn't feel the members funds deserve any oversight of how they are being used.

    This is the same logical fallacy. 

     

     

    On 8/16/2019 at 7:05 PM, baronn said:

    They clearly don't care about this project EVER getting completed and so far NOBODY has taken the responsible position of overseeing anything with this

    This is two things. First it's the same logical fallacy as before. Second it is not the responsibility of the USPA Board members to oversee a project that is ran by a different organization. 

     

    On 8/16/2019 at 7:12 PM, baronn said:

    They agreed to use members funds to get this project to completion.

    This is false, they agreed to use member funds to help the project. If they agreed the use member funds to get the project to completion, member funds would be funding the rest of the project. Which it isn't, so you're wrong. 

     

    On 8/17/2019 at 6:42 PM, baronn said:

    in almost 50 yrs haven't so much as put a plan in place?

    Just because you don't know something doesn't mean no one knows it. 

     

    On 8/17/2019 at 6:42 PM, baronn said:

    Do they support a few individuals that operate with continued immunity to any kind of oversight?

    This is false on two fronts. If you are talking about the USPA Board the voters provide oversight in the form of elections, reading/attending board meetings and contacting their representative member. If you are talking about the ISMHF, it is ran by a board of trustees. The reason there is a board is so they can have oversight on each other and generally there is someone that can replace trustees. Now just because I don't know if there is someone that can replace a trustee, doesn't mean that person doesn't exist. Last, if you are saying the USPA should have oversight on the ISMHF, well yeah, you are wrong there too. That isn't how that works. Could the USPA call them out on things? Sure, but that isn't real oversight. For there to oversight there must be authority. 

     

    On 8/18/2019 at 7:30 AM, baronn said:

    The only thing to show for all of this is a pie in the sky rendition of a facility attached to an Ifly that, at this point is not even in the planning process for completion.

    Again, just because you don't know something doesn't mean no one knows it. 

     

    On 8/18/2019 at 7:38 AM, baronn said:

    maybe they can apply for a Guinness world record for most delayed project in history.

    While probably sarcastic, it just shows how, uhhhhhhhh, your.... inability to use google, or general knowledge of history.  

     

    On 8/18/2019 at 7:46 AM, baronn said:

    You shude also give an update of how much has been given, specifically where those funds were placed and what they are being used for. As stewards of members money, you have a fiduciary responsibility to know where/what that is being used for. 

    This needs to be broken down. first, if you want to know how much has been given, why not look it up? It is public information, and has been posted here the last time you brought this up. Second, again, it is not the USPA Boards responsibility to manage the funds of a completely separate organization, the entire premise of that is ridiculous. Third, the where and what is simple, it is being used by the ISMHF non profit to build a skydiving museum. 

    Last, if you came in here, made some logical argument, didn't say ignorant things, people might be on your side, but you don't. 

  11. · Edited by meat.missile

    There is so much crap logic and bad information coming from you (baronn) I don't even know where to start. 

    On 8/16/2019 at 7:05 PM, baronn said:

    This shude be interesting......

    oh it's you.

    Mods; I thought you guys wanted to stop trolling on here?

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  13. · Edited by meat.missile

    2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

    Are you STILL looking for a way to call your skydive from an aircraft a BASE jump?

    Oh no, I really don't care. Their post was just bad logic. 

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  14. 2 hours ago, 20kN said:

    Mirage makes the W series container which is basically a hybrid between a BASE container and a skydiving container. It accepts BASE mains but with their smallest reserve packing tray so it's legal.

    They are pretty cool.

  15. 20 hours ago, billeisele said:

    B - building

    A - antenna

    S - span

    E - earth

    helicopter is not part of the definition

    Neither are, cranes, dams, chimneys, amusement park rides, electrical towers, Statues, trees, or wind turbines. 

  18. 10 hours ago, dudeman17 said:

     

    (Apparently BASEr's are TSO'd)

    Yep, it is the only TSO'd BASE rig that can take a chest mount reserve.*

     

    *to my knowledge. I thought Bilvon knew of another one. 

  19. · Edited by meat.missile

    44 minutes ago, billvon said:

    Not playing this game with you any more.  Do whatever you like, and call your jumps whatever you like.

    It's not a game. You can't just say that and provide no details. 

     P.S. as this was in Europe, It was relativity safe and legal, but I assume you are talking about in the US. 

    Edit: For anyone else reading apparently the BASEr is being manufactured again. 

     

  21. · Edited by meat.missile
    more on topic

    17 minutes ago, billvon said:

      If you want to take a BASE rig out of an airplane, you still have a relatively safe (and legal) option. 

    What option? 

  24. 56 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

    If you don't know the technical difference between a BASE jump and a skydive, you should not make the jump.

     

    signed: Grumpy old grey-bearded Master rigger

    So vague. 

  25. 2 hours ago, yoink said:

    It wasn't long ago that people were jumping off cliffs and using skydiving gear. That doesn't make them 'skydives'. They were BASE jumps.

    That's a good point. 

    I figured I would get hate for "internet whoring" anyway. Lose lose. 

    I'll try that next time and see what I get as feedback.