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I am inclined to question everything. You can see by the discussion that I am not the only one. My wife actually got whooping cough when she was a child, guess when? Immediately after being vaccinated for it. her respiratory system has not been 100% since. I stand corrected, I was tired, math is not my strong point but the implications remain the same. Correct me if I am wrong but from 1980 until now you are 200 times more likely to be autistic? 1 in 10,000 > 1 in 50 This is a very significant shift and the statistics cannot be blown off a misdiagnosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jt/2013/801517/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18482737 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19357975 http://labmed.ascpjournals.org/content/33/9/708.full.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3264864/?tool=pubmed there are more... I doubt many will read them.

quite clearly you are wrong with that assertion. If you actually cross checked your assumption with a google search you would learn otherwise... and autism is not my only concern, asthma, allergies and other long term adverse reactions have been found to be linked with vaccines. Metals such as aluminium and mercury are commonly used in vaccines.some might say that these are part of our daily diet but it has also been shown that we might absorb 0.05% of aluminium we would ingest in our diet where an injection would deliver 100%. we can listen to high paid chemists all we want but there are ample examples of perfectly healthy children falling ill immediately after taking these vaccines. The polio vaccine that the bill gates foundation gave to third world children for example has been found to have given 50,000 people polio... this is not cut as and dried as some of you might like to believe. And Jenny McCarthy, well her child ot autism after receiving vaccine, she has the right to be concerned, don't you think? I alrady posted a comprehensive video with many medical professionals that have conducted multiple studies on the link to vaccines and these illnesses. Those that state there is only one study linking autism to vaccines are being ignorant. and the studies claiming otherwise... well many are conducted by those Paid or directly employed by big pharma

I would like references to study from those on both sides of the fence... saying "in poland this and that " without providing evidence is not really helpful... I am not seeing much of anything with a quick google search...

What a rubbish, unfunny and unscientific analogy.. I wonder who paid for it?

I got if from the doctors in the video in the link I posted that did the study, I also googled it and got this report; http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2013/03/20/autism-prevalence-is-now-at-1-in-50-children/ Yes it is a tough decision.

Talk about biased, this 'cartoon' focuses on one guy that was likely looking to make money out of a controversy and uses his situation to make a conclusion. there are always people trying to make a buck out of peoples misfortunes. I am reading plently of stories of people that have experienced serious illness and death immediately after vaccination and the medical fraternity dening any such link to the vaccines but also giving no explanation to the illness or death. It is obvious that doctors are not taught to heal naturally, they know nothing about nutrition (food not pills) and they are quick to administer drugs for every type of ailment when sleep, water or a change of diet is probably all that is needed. there is a growing mistrust of orthodox medicine and big pharma (and its kickbacks) has a lot to do with this. Modern science is not making us healthier, it is making big pharma richer at the expense of our health. This is how it appears to me. I have never had a flu shot, an I cannot remember the last day I took a day off work due to illness. On the other hand people that get the flu shot seem to be ill more often... Why is this do you think?

Like I said, this is not how we plan on making our decisions. We are both swayed towards not vaccinating, or at least not using the multi-vaccines such as MMR and waiting until they have developed somewhat. We still have time and I want to get as much information as I can. The reason I post here is because of the critical posts I read here.People go out of their way to prove something wrong or right.

No, not trolling at all. Tjis is a serious debate and there are serious implicatons from both sides of the argument. I am of coursen not going to use the arguments from those here to make my(our) decision but definitely appreciate any feedback. I know of a couple of children that have not been vaccinated and they seem to be ill much less than their counterparts. One parent was even told that their child was a threat to those at the school that were vaccinated? I do not see the logic in that. this seems like scare tactics. if the vaccines work than how can an un vaccinated child pose a threat to vaccinated children? It is quite clear that some people have seriously adverse reactions to the vaccines and the medical fraternity seems to be more interested in covering that up than isolating what may be the cause of this or who is more susceptible. This has been covered... the numbers again; in 1980 it was 1 in 10,000 people, now it is 1 in 50... Are you saying you believe that 9950 people in 10,000 were un-diagnosed before recent technology/diagnosis was implemented. seriously?

so a couple of people have voted that they would. Is anyone willing to elaborate? it seems to me the risks far outweigh the benefits.

So having children soon and have had conflicting stories. Autism figures have changed from 1 in 10000 people in 1980 to more than 1 in 50 people now days... Vaccines are made with crude methods using animal genes such as birds eggs and monkeys kidneys and contain metals such as mercury and aluminium... Please give your educated opinion, does anyone have experience with adverse side effects, false/poor advice from medical practitioners? It is a tough subject, this video has me swayed against vaccinations. It seem the science behind them is seriously flawed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1m3TjokVU4

Sorry bud that is not acceptable. Anyone that has gone through school and can say that Africa is a country is obviously not in a position to be teaching anyone about anything.

My intentions was to point out that it could be studied and has been using a credible source. There were no suggestions of conspiracy. When we consider cannabis prohibition is worldwide and this is common knowledge we can assume you are trying to change the subject. I will not fall for such tricks. The fact remains that cannabis has proven through clinical studies and personal experiences to have many benefits for the sick and this includes children and infants. If a girl that has advanced leukaemia and has not eaten for a month can show immediate improvements in energy and appetite after taking concentrated doses of THC oil then I am inclined the believe the story at the beginning of this thread is somewhat sensationalised. I am not saying she was not wasted out of her mind, as I have also had the pleasure of this sensation . Suggesting her life was in danger is somehow uncalled for when there is no precedent set for anyone ever overdosing from cannabis in any form in all of history. There is also a (or a number of) clinical study(s) showing the human body actually has a mechanism to ensure this does not happen. This time I will allow you the pleasure of doing the research...[whisper] google it [/whisper] The cannabinoid receptor system in our bodies is more extensive than most will be aware of. It was actually discovered while doing clinical studies on cannabis.

anther bloody good luck story? http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/video/watch/20712196/cannabis-success-for-young-cancer-patient/ Do you suggest opiates are better for children? Cover the symptom or go for the cause?

That is why they test on rats and mice etc... The US government already tested THC on cancer cells in the 1970's and found it to reduce the growth and move subjects into remission... If you actually looked at the links I posted instead of grasping at straws to remain correct you might actually learn something.

I guess it is just really good luck then that hundreds if not thousands of people can vouch for this curing or helping their cancer into remission after medicine has failed to... http://www.medicaljane.com/2013/12/18/studies-suggest-cannabinoids-may-kill-human-cancer-cells/# I know of someone that had weeping holes in their face from melanoma after surgery (attempting to remove the cells on the worst sore) the cancer continued to grow... They then applied THC oil to the areas (the operated area and two other areas of cancer that were not operated on) and within a month they were gone... Yes gone! Before prohibition Cannabis was used extensively in medicine... Now that medicine is about money and not health, cannabis is a great threat to the shareholders.

we'll the many many accounts of, "there is nothing more we can do for you" after undergoing chemo and forking out handsomely for it, and then going ahead and going into remission after using THC and CBD is better than a study. there are also plenty of studies. why don't you try looking... you might be surprised. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16250836

Before I give you plenty of testimonials, what is it that makes you 'pretty damn sure' that it was not the cannabis that cured the cancer? Big Pharma are not into cannabis... chemo makes heaps more money. https://www.google.com/search?q=cannabis+cancer+survvor+testemonies&oq=cannabis+cancer+survvor+testemonies&aqs=chrome..69i57.12562j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 Here is a recent story from Australia. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/desperate-parents-turn-to-medical-marijuana-in-lastditch-effort-to-improve-their-childrens-lives/story-fni0fit3-1226799787147

I do not understand why you have to adjust brake lines for different riser lengths? The distance from the ring to the top of the riser is consistent on all risers?

Because children should never have access to THC, right? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383240/Boy-brain-cancer-cured-secretly-fed-medical-marijuana-father.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/marijuana-over-chemo_n_4017985.html

Yep like all computers. I find it very amusing that you guys can ignore and somehow discredit the most powerful computing network in the world and pass it off as some second rate, useless thing.

Heck how can I compete with guys that think Billions of dollars daily is chump change in a sea of trillions of Debt, thousands of petraflops is weak ass computing and solving difficult algorithms is not thinking. I might as well just go and suck my thumb. What a fucking joke.

That is funny, it will take time for everyone to grasp how easy it is to use these.

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