MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: Actually, I would just slide over a copy of the report, along with a few other items, and let you decide for yourself. But you wouldn't be able to come to a decision because there are some missing pieces to the evidence. ______________________________________________ I have already decided for myself, Blevins. KC ain't DBC. You've proven nothing. MeyerLouie ______________________________________________ ... Although Margie Geestman finally admitted on tape and voice that Kenny was probably the actual hijacker, I couldn't get such a confession from Bernie Geestman himself, although I did get a kick out of him when he told Decoded that Kenny could be the hijacker. We can definitely prove they were together the entire week the hijacking occurred. If Helen Jones and her daughter would have been willing to go on television, they would have confronted Geestman about this. But Jones was frightened of Geestman, and said so to both me and Pete Berg. We had to let it go at that. Too bad, because Geestman has lied multiple times on anything that possibly ties him to the hijacking, right from the start. You know the rest.... _______________________________________________ No Blevins, please tell us.....I never tire of it -- it's like watching a Disney movie -- I just can't get enough. Only kidding...you'll take it literally and repeat the whole damn story from beginning to end, again. ... You say Bernie is a flat out liar, and he scares people. He acted liked a total weirdo jerk on your Decoded thingie. So, he has no credibility, he is of no use or benefit to your cause, and to always bring him into the conversation does nothing for your already weak case. Margie and Bernie say Kenny may have been Cooper. Helen would have talked more if she wasn't so frightened.... That's about as convincing as all of the fuzzy memories and recollections that Jo has been throwing out for the last 17 years. You've all created a 'definite maybe' and not one of you have proven a damn thing. MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ ....One of these days, someone is going to discover the truth about the whole thing. Whether it turns out to be Kenny I don't know.... ______________________________________________ I do know Blevins. It ain't Kenny. MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: Basically, it's everything we know on the guy, his possible accomplice, and his financial dealings around the time of the hijacking. Doesn't prove he was the hijacker, _______________________________________________ Actually Blevins, it doesn't prove anything.... it's just a fairytale. MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: You REALLY should review the stuff you post sometimes. Like with the all-out bold and underlines and the constant liquid trash flowing from your, well...whatever place it comes from. No, we are not that important. But I have better manners than you any day of the week. And twice on Sunday. ___________________________________________ You do NOT have better manners -- you disrespect this forum every day, and you are disrespectful and arrogant with most everyone you address -- which is why you need to be banned. MeyerLouie ____________________________________________ We're going to help him present his material in the best manner possible, and make the most money doing it if possible, whether you like it or not. I have discussed this with Bruce already and we stand ready to assist. If he refuses, that's up to him and you have absolutely nothing to do with it. _____________________________________________ But Bruce, nor anybody else for that matter, has asked your for your help or advice or assistance in any way, So shut your big mouth! Move on. MeyerLouie _____________________________________________ To Everyone Else: On Saturday, August 10th at the Auburn Avenue Theatre in (where else?) Auburn, WA we're doing a Triple Feature. Admission is FREE. Refreshments provided at the same price by Gayla. Popcorn provided by a volunteer doing an Old-Time Popcorn Machine. I'm bringing the melted butter, because I don't believe in popcorn with fake butter or whatever that oil is they dump on your five dollar a bucket corn at the usual places. Movies don't start until 2PM because of the parade, although you can drop by the theatre for water, some AC, free snacks, whatever. Films: Them, The Leech Woman, and Robinson Crusoe on Mars - The Criterion Edition. The heck with it. I went out and picked up a blanket license from the MPLU allowing me to do free admission films once a year. The Criterion license I had to do separately. But I didn't care. I really did not. I was not happy about the following: When they tore down the Valley 6 Drive-In Theatre after fifty years I got really pissed off. (Yes, I get angry sometimes...but more about issues and much less about people, whom I will forgive almost anything) So I got me a license to kill. Okay, not to KILL, but to show films as long as I don't charge admission. So we will do movies at the Auburn Ave once a year in revenge. Be there or be square. And if you aren't, we don't care. This event endorsed by the NWSFS. For you out-of-towners, that's the Northwest Science Fiction Society. I especially want to see Them. Giant ants, nuclear weapons testing. It was like a warning, LOL.

Nice. Any video of your arch jump ? _______________________________________________ Incredible Airtwardo, thanks for sharing it. MeyerLouie

______________________________________________ I would be honored to be edited out, thank you. The more distance between you and me, the better. MeyerLouie Then stop asking to meet me. Cause it aint happening. _______________________________________________ Hey Blevins, don't fall all over your self-importance. I was making a joke -- do you really think after all the verbal abuse I've thrown at you lately that I want to meet with you? Grab a clue, Big Guy. MeyerLouie ______________________________________________ The video stays because I don't feel like taking the trouble to edit it because of you. As far as your Bruce Smith comments on his upcoming book, you obviously don't know the publishing business any more than you know proper manners. _______________________________________________ That's not even the point, Dumbo. Your advice and offer is unsolicited. Don't you think if Bruce wanted your advice and assistance, he would have asked? Bruce is pretty good about things like that -- he's a journalist, for crying out loud. If he wants something from someone, he asks. Since you weren't asked, maybe your humble expert opinion is unwanted. You probably should ask him, not me. MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ If it were easy to set up a book at Amazon for paperback and for the Kindle, people wouldn't pay me money to do it for them occasionally. The service I offered to Bruce for free I normally charge more than a thousand dollars to do. He will make 2.10USD on each Kindle download, $1.70 on every borrow under Amazon Prime, about $3.00 net on every paperback sale. And that's if the Kindle price is set to the minimum, paperback set to 55% off the cover price, which encourages sales and listings by other vendors. His book will be available in seven additional foreign markets for Kindle, and worldwide at wholesale rates in paperback. Cover art included if he wishes. All for free...and they will credit his bank account monthly. I will even set up his accounts at Amazon and LSI if he wishes. If I do that, the value is nearly two grand, but I am happy to do it. Here's a secret: AB makes far more on editing and packaging for outside authors than we do on actual book sales. I do about eight to ten private edits a year. A smart editor can make you look good, and I've edited more than fifty books now for some very happy authors. _______________________________________________ And all this information has relevance to what exactly. It was unsolicited, so it's unnecessary and irrelevant! MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ He probably wishes you would shut up about it. How the hell would you know? I guess you speak for everyone here now. Geez Blevins, give the arrogance a rest. What the hell is wrong with you? You're not normal, dude. What happened? Potty training went terribly wrong? MeyerLouie

______________________________________________ I would be honored to be edited out, thank you. The more distance between you and me, the better. MeyerLouie

LOL when you pasted over the entire excerpt in your previous post, you must have done it with your eyes closed. I couldn't care less if you have read it or not. And there is something else: It isn't promotional, never was. [BULLSHIT BLEVINS, WHO ARE YOU KIDDING? EVERYTHING YOU DO HERE IS PROMOTIONAL. YOU MUST THINK EVERYONE IS AS STUPID AS YOU ARE.] I already posted twice that the excerpt from the unnamed/unlinked book is not my book. When I said 'my upcoming work,' I meant because I'm doing the editing on it, and yes...I am proud of that edit so far. My name, however, will not be in the book credits. The author's name is Julia Broussard. She once helped edit a collection of my short stories, and was kind enough to write the Foreword. So...I thought I would return the favor and edit her book for free. [BUT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO THAT FAVOR HERE, THIS IS THE DB COOPER THREAD, NOT A DROP-IN CENTER FOR LITERARY WANNABES! GET IT??] I do this occasion....I have offered this service free to Bruce Smith for his upcoming Cooper book. I told him I would edit it, and do the Kindle conversion for it, and then set him up with the paperback manuscript for upload, all for nothing. I posted up the bank robbery scene from Julia's book because frankly, it was a bit dead around here and I wanted to liven it up a bit. [AND YOU'RE JUST THE GUY TO DO IT. DON'T BOTHER -- IT'S IRRELEVANT -- YOU DON'T POSSESS THE SOCIAL SKILLS TO LIVEN ANYTHING UP.] And what's the harm in that? People go off-topic here all the time. You do understand now about the excerpt? It's not for sale anywhere? It's unpublished? It isn't on any websites? I did not write it? I am NOT the author? The author is a female? Named Julia Broussard? [IT'S STILL FRICKIN' IRRELEVANT!!] I feel as if I'm talking to a child here. This is the third time I have said this. Case closed. Move on. I can prove to you who Broussard is, and her role in the short story collection...but it means a link to Amazon to a book I actually DID write, and you would just whine about that, too. So if you want to know who she is, go search Amazon. [WHO CARES? IT'S IRRELEVANT HERE!! On a side note, you haven't done anything positive in the way of contributions lately, either. Every post is just another whiny 'Oh please, Mr Moderator...can you ban Blevins for me?' LOL. You sound like a kid who has been refused a cookie from the jar. My suggestion is you grow up a bit. But that's just a suggestion. At your age, if you haven't done so already, it's probably too late. However, I always have hope with people, so maybe you will. _______________________________________________ Once again, Dumbo, nobody cares about your ridiculous, irrelevant excerpts from Julie Broussard or whoever the fuck else you post up. It has nothing to do with DB Cooper, it's all irrelevant, it always has been irrelevant these past 3 years you've been doing it. What part of 'irrelevant' don't you understand? Do you see anybody else here posting up excerpts from their books? Only you do it, and it's obvious why you do it. Getting DZ to sell your books for you is so pathetic, so low-life. I haven't contributed anything postive to this forum? Exposing the real you is a positive contribution -- the real you is self-absorbed, narcissistic, greedy, incompetent, and disruptive. You do nothing but peddle your books and say ridiculous, illogical, unfounded, and really pathetic things on a regular basis. Did you ever stop to think that Bruce Smith does not need your assistance because he is capable and competent enough (more precisely, more capable, more competent than you) to do it himself? It's very likely that he just doesn't need you. Tell you what -- I challenge you to an intellectual discussion about the case -- just you and me. I'll even give you a head start -- I'll tie half my brain behind my back. MeyerLouie

Hey, you asked for it, my friend. And although it's non-Cooper, it's certainly better than the dodging-the-question tripe you've been posting lately. Well, that's subjective. Excerpt from my upcoming Totally Non-Cooper work. No title, no links. It's a bank robbery scene, and *warning*, Graphic Content means just that. ...... _____________________________________________ Eat me, Blevins. Didn't read one word of it, never will, Troll. MeyerLouie

***I'm not going to respond directly to MeyerLouie's usual junk. I like how he quotes over the WHOLE excerpt from the (yes) book, and then whines about it. I'm peddling my wares. I should be banned, he says. Guess you missed my previous post. The author's name is Julia Broussard. It's her first book. I'm doing the editing on it for her. She once helped me edit a short story collection, so I thought I would return the favor. She allowed me to post the excerpt. I told her it was more entertaining that MeyerLouie's constant whining. Okay...I didn't really tell her that, but I wonder if I should have. _____________________________________________ As usual, Dopey, you miss the point. Julia Broussard, Robert Blevins, who gives a fuck? They're irrelevant to the DBC forum, period. Your only purpose for posting this long, irrelevant excerpt is to promote sales (I didn't read one word of it, by the way, and won't, ever). I posted the excerpt in its entirety to illustrate just how much time and space you actully waste on what is so blatantly irrelevant here. You take up 25% of the air time here, so much of it is for your monetary gain and to prop up your fragile ego. This is why you should be, and will be, permanently banned from this forum. Hmmmm, let's see now, how much of that new book, Cooperland meets Auburn Days, am I going to read? I think I'll opt for credibility, professionalism, and proper research techniques by reading Bruce Smith's book instead. I don't always agree with Bruce's approach to things, but at least I respect his credibility, talent, and professionalism. MeyerLouie

Hey, you asked for it, my friend. And although it's non-Cooper, it's certainly better than the dodging-the-question tripe you've been posting lately. Well, that's subjective. Excerpt from my upcoming Totally Non-Cooper work. No title, no links. It's a bank robbery scene, and *warning*, Graphic Content means just that. ***CHP officers Michael Watson and Drew Pierce sipped their coffee and kept a steady watch on the front doors of First National in Eureka. They were parked in an unmarked car across the street and about a half-block down from the bank. This gave them a good view of everyone coming into and out of the bank. The bank had been open for fifteen minutes now, and so far, everything seemed normal. “Ah, they probably won’t try hitting a downtown branch anyway,” said Watson. “Maybe some smaller bank near the edge of town. You think?” “Maybe,” said Pierce. He pulled back the slide on the 12-gauge shotgun he held and checked to see if there was a shell in the chamber. “Where’s our backup?” “Ten blocks east,” said Watson. “Martin and that rookie, what’s his name...” “Turner. Dave Turner.” “Yeah. They’re staked over at Chase Bank, main branch.” “Nobody closer?” “Not right now,” said Watson. “Look, just in case those guys show up here, I’m not giving them a chance to do to us what they did to Harris and Gordon. I’ll blow their fucking heads off without so much as a how-do-you-do. And if you’re smart, you’ll do the same. No one’s going to say anything if we put them into the gutter without a warning shot. You understand?” “I’m with you, partner,” said Pierce. As they watched, a white BMW sedan pulled up to the curb on the other side of the street in front of the bank. Two men wearing long coats got out of the car. One of the men stopped long enough to drop some quarters into the parking meter. They both headed into the bank. “Run that Beamer plate,” said Pierce. “Dispatch,” said Watson into the radio, “one Lincoln six.” “One Lincoln six go.” “I need a ten twenty-eight on a white BMW sedan. California license BROKER 1, vanity plate.” “Roger one Lincoln six. Stand by.” A few seconds passed while the dispatcher ran the license number. “One Lincoln six,” came the response. “Vehicle registered to Wayne Jackson, Eureka address. No wants or warrants.” “Roger,” said Watson. “One Lincoln six out.” He looked at his partner and tapped his fingers nervously. “Just some locals. Rich folks, no doubt.” *** “Everyone freeze!” Cummings shouted. He leaped over the counter and approached the bank manager. “Tell everyone to stay off the alarms,” he said, leveling the BAR at her head. “If I see a single cop pull up outside, I start shooting people.” The young woman stood up from her desk and put her arms into the air. “Do what he says,” she said in a loud voice. “Do not trigger the alarms.” Ray Morris took a spot near the front door, where he could keep watch on the few early-bird customers now cowering on the floor of the lobby. Another customer walked in and Morris grabbed him, throwing him to the floor with the others. “Stay there,” he ordered. “Keep your head down.” Cummings marched the bank manager over to the vault cage. There was a door with steel bars. “Open it,” he said. The woman’s hands shook as she pulled out her key and inserted it into the lock. She missed the lock and tried again, unsuccessfully. “What’s your name, ma’am?” said Cummings. He took the key from her hand and opened the cage door smoothly. “My name?” “Yeah.” “Penny Appleton.” “Okay, Penny. Go on in. I want the money,” he said. “Now.” “Yes, sir.” The woman led him to a grey upright safe the size of a refrigerator. She pointed to it. “In there. It’s all in there.” “Open it, please.” She spun the dial on the safe one way, then another, and then rotated the handle, swinging it open. Cummings grabbed her by the collar and shoved her to her knees in front of the safe. He laid the barrel of the heavy rifle on her shoulder. “Now if you put any dye packs or bait money into this bag I’ll blow your brains out, you understand?” “What bag?” Cummings pulled out a black garbage bag and dropped it on the floor. “This bag. I know what bait money and dye packs look like, so don’t try it. Now get the goddamn money into the bag, every cent.” “Yes, sir.” She reached up and removed a few bundles of bills from the top shelf, setting them aside on the floor. “That’s all the bait money,” she said. “And the dye packs.” “Smart girl. Now put the rest of it into the bag.” Singleton pulled row after row of bundled cash from the remaining shelves and stuffed them into the garbage bag. She held the bag up for Cummings without looking at his face. “That’s all of it, sir. Except for what the tellers have in their drawers.” Cummings pulled her to her feet. “We’ll forget about the tellers. Get back out there and sit down on the floor,” he said. She walked out of the vault cage and sat down near her desk. Cummings leaped back over the counter with the bag of money and smiled at Morris. “See? Told you it was easy. Let’s go.” *** Outside the bank, another call came in to the stakeout car. “One Lincoln six,” said the dispatcher. “One Lincoln six go,” Watson answered. “Additional on your white BMW with the BROKER 1 vanity plates. A man claiming to be the owner just called it in ten twenty-nine Victor. Details are still coming in, but he said he was the victim of a home invasion. Officers are in route to the victim’s home, code three.” “Dispatch, one Lincoln six,” said Watson. “You have the address on that Beamer registration?” “Two sixteen Elk River Road.” “Shit!” Watson said, smacking his partner on the shoulder. “That address is right near the shootout. They’re in the fucking bank!” He shouted into the radio, “Dispatch! One Lincoln six. Those murder suspects are inside the First National right now, main branch. Requesting backup. One Lincoln six out goddamnit!” He dropped the microphone. “Let’s go!” Both men jumped from the car with their shotguns at the ready and ran across the street toward the bank. Cummings and Morris emerged from the bank with their weapons hidden under their coats and calmly headed for the BMW. They saw the two cops instantly. “Take this,” said Cummings, handing Morris the bag of money. “Get in the car. I’ll cover.” As Morris ran for the BMW, Cummings brought up the BAR from under his coat and squeezed off a loud burst. Bullets splattered the pavement around the officers, missing them, but forcing them to duck behind a parked car two slots back from the BMW. One of the cops fired a shotgun blast at Morris, hitting him. The force spun him around like a ballet dancer doing a pirouette. He fell to the pavement near the passenger door of the BMW and grabbed his leg. “I’m hit!” Cummings dodged a couple of shotgun blasts and ducked low, running for the car and firing his BAR at them at the same time. The heavy bullets tore through the metal and glass of the parked car where the cops were hiding. They returned fire with their shotguns, blowing out a storefront window behind him. He slammed another magazine into the BAR and fired a second time, hitting one of the officers, who staggered back and collapsed into the street. Shoppers and passersby ran for cover, screaming and shouting. Ducking behind the front of the BMW, Cummings took a quick glance at Morris. “Get your ass off the ground! Get in the fucking car!” he yelled. Morris stayed low and opened the passenger door, throwing the moneybag into the rear seat. His leg was covered in blood and his face was ashen. He crawled inside and shut the door. The other cop continued firing shotgun blasts at the BMW, but the car parked between them was making him miss. Cummings ran around to the driver’s side of the BMW and fired off a long burst at the remaining cop. The cop ducked even lower behind the car he was using as a shield and Cummings saw him cramming more shells into his shotgun. “Come on, Ben!” Morris shouted. “Get in here! Let’s go!” Cummings emptied the remainder of the magazine at the cop and then opened the door and tossed the BAR into the back seat on top of the moneybag. Then he took a grenade from his pocket and pulled the pin. He lobbed it high into the air with an expert toss and watched it hit the roof of the car where the cop was hiding. It rolled off toward the trunk area and exploded with an ear-splitting crack. Car alarms up and down the street wailed in protest. “How do you like me now, you bastard!” he shouted. A couple of seconds later, the cop stumbled out from behind the parked car. Blood was streaming down his face and he was holding both hands over his ears. The shotgun was on the ground. “Ben! Come ON!” Cummings jumped into the BMW and started the car, pulling away from the curb. As he glanced into the rear view mirror, he saw that the wounded cop had collapsed in the street about twenty feet from his partner. Neither of them was moving. “I think I got him with that frag,” he said as they sped away.

Blevins wrote: I started turning down money from anyone who wanted to investigate Christiansen's story. $2,500 from History Channel, another $1,000 from Comcast Sports Net cable channel for Adrenaline Hunter. I also turned away a film rights offer from a client represented by the Paradigm Agency's New York office. This was because they wanted to take serious liberties with the KC story and I said no. Maybe this was stupid on my part, I don't know. AB spent about $13,000 investigating KC, and have gotten back maybe $8,000 of that. I drive a 1988 Nissan truck and clean homes when I'm not editing books. My family is quite rich, but I have never asked them for a dime, and I never will. When I got into this Cooper/KC thing, I didn't know shit about DB Cooper beyond the usual and I made a lot of mistakes. ... [talking about Twisty Butt here]....beyond using it to cash in personally. _____________________________________________ Blevins, You still don't know shit and you are still making a lot of mistakes. Don't kid yourself. And you are still using this forum for financial gain -- Twisty Butt is not the only one trying to cash in. No one else on this forum provides an itemized list of how much money was offered by whom and for what. Only you do that, Blevins. Hence, it is crystal clear what your motivation is. You are here to sell books, cash in, pick the low hanging fruit -- that's it. That's why you need to be permanently banned. One day soon, you are going to go too far -- because of your greed and your big ego, Little Man. You've almost done it a couple of times already. It's amazing how low you will stoop to peddle your wares. One day soon you are going to cross that line, and that's the day you will be gone, and rightly so! MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: People like her, people who simply make up stories without any proof with the primary goal being financial gain and fame are the worst types in Cooperland. They hurt legitimate investigation into the case. This has nothing to do with Kenny Christiansen or the Blast book. It has to do with credibility and motivations. Marla's credibility is zero, and her motivations are nothing but greed. ... Hard to believe History Channel is going to air that stuff, which is maybe a half-step above BK's version. ______________________________________________ Can you believe these words are actually coming from this guy? Making up stories without proof? Then what is the KC fairy tale? Blevins actually criticizes someone's credibility, when his has been zero from the git-go. Nothing to do with KC or Blast or fame and greed? Blevins, it has everything to do with KC and Blast -- you have used this forum only for you personal financial gain and fame (if that's what you want to call it) -- which is why you should be permanently banned from this forum. Marla goes on the history channel -- you sound a bit threatened by that -- afraid her history channel story is going to trump yours? You sound threatened by that. The things I say to you I wouldn't dream of saying to anyone else on this forum. I wished I could respect you Blevins. It just ain't there. MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: [ The main object is to identify the TRUTH on who was Cooper, not play pattycake or worry about book sales. ______________________________________________ Why is it Blevins you are the only one on the forum who talks about book sales? Only you talk about financial gain here, no one else. I've got news for you, Blevins -- it's inappropriate and a breach of forum protocol. You need to be permanently banned from this forum for doing it, period! MeyerLouie

Blevins said: ....I am not the enemy here.... I interviewed dozens of people doing either life-without, or sentences that realistically were the same thing. This was to compare their situation to the death penalty. No, I don't have a PI license, but then no one else around here does either.... ______________________________________________ Your partner, Skip Porteous, has a PI license. Why not just borrow his? Then you can be an expert in that field too -- just like all the others. How about this, Blevins -- I am for the death penalty. When there's no doubt (got that -- absolutely no doubt -- as in there was irrefutable evidence that Ted Bundy really did commit the murders for which he was convicted and sentenced), then the death penalty is justice for the grieving families. These there's-absolutely-no-doubt-they-did-it monsters get a bed, clean clothes, three square a day, often times a job and a college education -- all free of charge. Not free of charge for the tax payer however -- they get to foot the entire bill! You bleeding heart liberals think the tax money to support these monsters for their entire lives grows on trees. MeyerLouie MeyerLouie

Blevins said: I may not be a pro investigator.... but I play one on TV. MeyerLouie

_______________________________________________ Are you saying then, MrShutter45, that 305 could not have maintained the V-23 flight path into Portland if 305 had to land at PDX? I'm wondering then what pattern, altitude, and elevation would have been necessary for 305 to land at PDX -- taking the all-important wind velocity and direction into account. I'm hoping this will be a "what if" scenario you can simulate. It might help nail down the real flight path right around jump time or soon thereafter. On a related topic: As I look closely at your attached map, Mrshutter45, it's looking like V-23 goes right over Vancouver and pretty much right over downtown Portland. So, I have to ask again: would Ratraczak risk flying over the major metropolitan areas of Vancouver and Portland, knowing that Cooper had a bomb and was threatening to detonate it, thus possibly blowing up the plane and having it crash into a major metropolitan area in either Portand or Vancouver -- thus risking major casualties, huge loss of life, and major property damage? It just doesn't seem reasonable or likely that Rataczak would do that. So, I'm going to have to question the alleged V-23 flight path into Vancouver and Portland. The V-23 flight path seems unlikely -- very unlikely, in fact. So, did Rataczak fly west or east of Vancouver/Portland proper? The fact that Tena Bar is upriver from the Lewis River drainage into the Columbia makes one think he opted for an easterly direction. I know Rataczak said his cherished wish was to be able to fly over the Pacific Ocean and get Cooper to jump to his death there. It would be significant to find the truth about the real flight path coming into the Portland vicinity. MeyerLouie

***I hear many of you saying that Rataczak has made his position on the flight plan clear over the years. But none of you have actually SAID what that position is. Since I have not seen or heard anything from Rataczak on this...then I have to assume he said they went over the east side of Portland, maybe somewhere near the I-405 bridge. All I suggested was asking him again before you start moving the flight based on your research. Put him on the record. This should be done, I think, by either Robert99 (because he's a pilot and would know the best questions to ask) or Shutter, (because he's also been working with the sim program). Maybe a letter from both of you that includes a contact phone number. ______________________________________________ Well, Blevins, you could read the transcript from that night, or do a google or youtube search on Rataczak. Bruce Smith has done several articles, you could review some of his write-ups. It's called research Blevins, try it sometime. So, someone has to call him now to get the "official word" from Rataczak on the flight path. The official word has been out for 30-40 years now. And I'll be sure to go out and buy your new book, Cooperland, and read up on your BK chapter -- the Lazarus Effect. What you just did, Dumbo, was advertise, on this forum, and promote sales for your upcoming book, on this forum. That's what you just did, and you've been doing it since you got here. You continue to peddle your wares and use this forum for financial gain. This is not in the best interests, nor in the true spirit, of this forum. I hope Quade is following this. You need to be permanently banned! What you are doing is pathetic. MeyerLouie

I know Rataczak's wife is ill. I know also he was hit by a truck while riding his bicycle. He still goes to NWA events, he still answers sensible calls about the hijacking. His contact info is in the White Pages. I'm saying his opinion on this 'east or west of Portland' question is important, since unlike either you, me, or Robert99, he was actually behind the controls that night. So ask him. Otherwise, you have only Robert99's opinion on this. As I said earlier, this is a no-brainer. Both of you are dodging here. Rataczak CAN be approached for questions, just not from folks like BK, for example. I think Robert99 is a good example of someone who Rataczak would speak with regarding this question. Bill Rataczak 7522 Pleason Ave NW South Haven, MN 55382-3810 (320) 236-7982 This is no big deal. He's in the book, guys. And before you start rewriting history and changing the flight path, maybe you should (you think?) check with one of the pilots on that flight. Arguing and whining are useless. Go to the source. Ask the co-pilot. I don't necessarily doubt the research, but fair is fair and before you start making assumptions 40+ years after the actual flight, you need to speak to the best witness first. I think this is quite fair, since HE was there, and you were NOT. His opinion is deserved. Present your research, but present the original viewpoint as well. Otherwise all your work is subjective, and if the opposing viewpoint (Rataczak) ends up being different from yours, then maybe you will have something to compare your research with. Phone...polite letter maybe... The address is above. _______________________________________________ I think Mr. Rartaczak has made his position clear about this over the years. He's done many talks on it, in person, electronically, it's no mystery. But since we're talking flight path of 305....how reasonable is it to assume a flight crew would agree to fly an aircraft over a major metropolitan area, like Vancouver/Portland, or close to it for that matter, if someone is on board threatening to blow it up with a bomb? Remote to impossible. I would think the first reaction would be to either get out to sea, so as to minimize casualties and property damage, or into the forest -- for the same reason. So, that puts 305 west or east of Vancouver/Portland proper. Which is it? That seems to be the big question. V-23's path seems to go over the east side of Portland, like around Gresham, if I read the map of the flight path correctly. How likely is it that this part of the V-23 flight path was followed? Would Rataczak fly that close to Portland proper? I say only if he had to -- and the only reason for that would be to land the aircraft at PDX. I'm sure Mr. Rataczak's top priority was to minimize the risk of loss of life. MeyerLouie

Hey Blevins, just because someone's phone number is in the phone book does not mean they want it plastered all over an international forum for the whole world to see. Did you bother asking Mr. Rataczak's permission to do this -- if for no other reason, as a common and professional courtesy? Knowing how you operate, I'll bet the answer is 'no.' How would you like it if someone posted your street address on a forum that is viewed by people from all over the world -- especially if you didn't bother showing some basic courtesy? MeyerLouie Bill Rataczak 7522 Pleason Ave NW South Haven, MN 55382-3810 (320) 236-7982 This is no big deal. He's in the book, guys. And before you start rewriting history and changing the flight path, maybe you should (you think?) check with one of the pilots on that flight.

Blevins wrote: TIGHAR does enjoy their little trips to Nikumaroro Island, don't they? It's hard to tell sometimes if they are sincere, or if they are just using Amelia Earhart as a source of income. You want to believe them, but.... __________________________________________________ Isn't it ironic a statement like this would come out of the mouth of Robert Blevins? I've wondered the same thing myself when thinking about Blevin's book, Blast, and the real reason Blevins is here in the first place -- to push sales of said book and to gain financially from his presence on this thread -- which, to me, is an impeachable offense. He needs to be permanently banned for such actions. There must be something to what I'm saying -- have you noticed, Blevins doesn't respond to any of my posts anymore? Normally, his big ego wouldn't allow it, but now I think he's really scared. When you've done nothing wrong, the truth can't hurt you. MeyerLouie

Lol...that short response thing worked out real well. My eyes are glazing.....Maybe you should hire an editor :) *JOKE* Like I said before -- though I might as well be talking to the wall -- all anecdotal, no proof -- nothing in your responses changes that fact or the fact that KC has physical hurdles to overcome that you gloss over. You can have the last word if you want cause I'm done. We've beat this dead horse way too many times. Quote It is now officially the RobertMBlevins-Jo Weber EDITORIAL thread, run by Paul Quade! No resemblance to a Cooper discussion group! I will open an alternative website in the future where Cooper can once again be discussed - with NEW info. Blevins and Weber will be denied access. simple as that. Geoff Gray was right! I will let Geoff know a new site has been opened ... when the time comes. Geoff may join us. _______________________________________________ No Blevins, no Jo. That opens up 53% of the air time to get real discussion on the Cooper case -- and not just fairly tales, anecdotes, circumstantial coincidences, and fuzzy memories about what may have been. That would be a better world. I could support such a cause. MeyerLouie

Lol...that short response thing worked out real well. My eyes are glazing.....Maybe you should hire an editor :) *JOKE* Like I said before -- though I might as well be talking to the wall -- all anecdotal, no proof -- nothing in your responses changes that fact or the fact that KC has physical hurdles to overcome that you gloss over. You can have the last word if you want cause I'm done. We've beat this dead horse way too many times. _______________________________________________ On December 4, 2007, CKRET wrote: "Chistiansen was dismissed because the only part of his physical description that matches Coopers is that he is male. There were other items as well, one of them was that he was a NW fight attendant. It does not fit...that a NW stew would hijack a flight associated in his area of operation. The chance someone would recognize him immediately would be too great. On top of that the chance someone that works for NW would have said, "Cooper looks like that guy I worked with, you Kenny?" which never happened." All of your circumstantial anecdotes about Geetsman, the woman with three horses abreast, and everything else KC gets about as much attention from the FBI as your KC report does in the bottom of a bird cage getting pooped on. The only similarity to Cooper is that they were both male?? I wouldn't count on getting any Christmas cards from the FBI this year. Maybe it's time to give it up, move on, get permanently banned, Pilgrim. You've made your money, we've all heard your fairy tale a million times. Okay then, bye bye now. MeyerLouie

This statement explains everything. You truly do not read anyone else's posts..

_______________________________________________ It's so blatantly obvious Blevins is using this forum to push book sales. He needs to be permanently banned from the forum. This is such a blatant breach of forum protocol. Name one other person who is here only for monetary gain. That's right, there's only one, Robert Blevins. MeyerLouie