MeyerLouie

P.S. And I got to get up and sing with the band a couple of times at the DB Cooper Ariel Party....it's been fun for sure..

Interesting that mysterious Cooper and McCoy get compared at times...wouldn't it be something if McCoy really was Cooper all along and, all these years, we have been chasing the elusive, mysterious, whoever-he-is DB Cooper. One theory I have heard is that McCoy lost most of his money on the 11/24/71 jump, he was desperate for cash, so he went for it again, but was careless that second time around. And there is the timeline issue of where he was Thanksgiving evening and all. What if....?? What if we have been barking up the wrong tree, what if it isn't the big mystery we have made it out to be? No problem, I have had a good time, got on TV, met some great people..it's all good. MeyerLouie

How about this little theory...I'll just throw it around? The money ended up in the Columbia River because Cooper ended up in the River. The money stayed intact inside the bag (eventually got free from Cooper); the money bag continued to tumble down the River, it got hung up in the River, upstream from Tena Bar. High water event eventually freed the bag, The bag ended up at Tena Bar for just a short time (the water eventually receded, taking the bag back out to the River bottom again), The bag was quite torn and tattered by this time it arrived at Tena Bar. Three packets managed to break free from the bag before the bag got taken back out. The rubber band was still intact as it was protected quite well inside the tightly wrapped money bag. Ingram must have found the money packets not too long thereafter, as the rubber band(s), although very degraded, were still wrapped around the packets, This means the 3 bundles could not have been at Tena Bar for very long before Ingram found them. An estimate: the 3 bundles arrived late 1979, a few weeks before Feb 1980. MeyerLouie

You know, Robert, it wouldn't hurt you to actually show up at some of the Cooper events,actually meet some of the people that you have been at odds with over the years, vice versa. It might good for everybody...I think you would find that they are not so bad and they would find that you are nor so bad either. Your reputation with the Cooper guys over there needs a little help. I would encourage you to make an effort to go. Please don't regurgitate all the reasons you have for never wanting to meet them. Georger is a great guy, Tom Kay is too, so is 377....go meet them, it will do you good. Meyer

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The book on the lower right, written by the former FBI agent...it's been so long since I've been around, I forgot his name and the name of the book. You won't believe this, in the1980s I actually wrote to the guy and requested a copy of the book. He sent me back an autographed copy, and I lost it! I moved so many times in my college years, I think it got chucked, regrettably. I would like to get another copy of the book. Meyer

I bought a copy of the Ha-Ha-Ha book from Dona at Ariel, I am looking at it right now. Never took it all that seriously. I talked with you Robert about the book. I recall you encouraged me to buy a copy, and I did. Has anyone actually read it? MeyerLouie

I can't believe there is no video record of Cooper Con 2021. Someone recorded it, we will find out soon. I can't conceive Eric Ulis letting such an important thing as this getting overlooked.

I have always maintained that Mucklow, not Mitchell, was the witness to listen to. Mucklow sat next to Cooper for hours, she was up close and personal, and she would have been trained, as an airline stewardess, to be observant of details that the common observer would not necessarily notice. Mitchell, on the other hand, was more interested in getting Tina's phone number and getting a date after the flight. I remember trying to meet a pretty girl in my younger days. The last thing I would be looking at is the guy sitting next to her, the guy I am competing against to win her over and gain her affections. Lust has a way of playing tricks on the mind. I seriously doubt that Mitchell was paying much attention to that weird guy sitting next to Tina.. he was probably thinking "what has this guy got that I don't have?" He was looking at her, gentlemen, not him. Not only that, after all these years, any of Mitchell's memories would have have pretty much faded away. He even admitted that, I believe. I have always said that Tina Mucklow is the best, credible observer of DBC on that flight 11/24/71. MeyerLouie

It is such a shame that the DBC party at Ariel is pretty much just a memory now. I went several times over the years. Feeling kind of empty knowing that Dona and Bryan are not around anymore to put on the event. It truly was a great time, I loved it. Met some great, interesting people every time. When Josh Gates put on a party in Ariel the night before the Expedition Unknown shoot, it was great. You were there, Robert, you made one mean hotdog at the BBQ. The good ol' days..... Meyer

Cooper Con has already happened? Just getting back to a Cooper forum after years away. Could not have attended anyway, I live in eastern Washington now. Sounds like a fairly successful symposium...or not? What is your assessment? Meyer

Hello everyone, it's been years since I last visited dropzone. Just wanted to wish all a happy 50th anniversary, tomorrow. Hard to believe tomorrow night will be 50 years ago the DBC hijacking took place. Hope you are all well, and happy thanksgiving. MeyerLouie

Whatever. My answer: ***Are you sure you didn't fudge your way to that P.H.D.? LOL listen to yourself. You've become a victim of the Cooper Curse without a doubt. You've tossed any civility you may have had previously right out the window. All logic has gone. You really should apologize, although I don't expect you to do so. This sometimes, is what goes on in Cooperland. I didn't realize I was so bad. Thank you for setting me straight on that, Meyer. ______________________________________________ Screw you, Troll. I'm outta here. MeyerLouie

Something all users in this forum should take note of. We're getting far too many complaints about the actions and tones in this forum. There are a couple of users in particular being called out for not staying on topic and attacking other users rather than simply talking the merits of theories. It would be a wise man who worried less about others and more about their own words here. None of you are indispensable or fire proof in terms of being banned. The discussions will go on just fine without you. Stick to the topic of the DB Cooper case. You want to attack a theory: fine. Do NOT attack users. You want to talk about DB Cooper: fine. Do NOT bring modern politics into it. Consider this both a global and specific warning at the same time. If you think it applies to you, then tone it down and dial it back. If you don't think it applies to you, then you're wrong. Well, it's easy for me. I refuse to post here under these INTOLERABLE CONDITIONS. You can ban me if you want. I am entitled to my viewpoint on the ROBERTMBLEVINS socalled ADVENTURE BOOKS REGIME that has controlled every facet of life here for three years. As I see this, it is a literal choice between HIM or US! This is a disgrace and crazy on it's face. I have another Cooper forum I can go to if I want, where I have some personal control over matters such as this. Where neither RobertMBlevins/Adventure Books or Jo Weber are allowed, period. The fact is: this forum is not indispensable or fire proof in terms of DB Cooper discussion. The discussions will go on just fine without this thread! In less than a week Blevins will be right back doing "his thing" here, as usual. Aesop's fable applies in this case. A troll is a troll, and can only be a TROLL. ____________________________________________ I'm with Georger, wholeheartedly. I'll take myself out.... MeyerLouie

Blevins said: .... He [MeyerLouie] had a large part in the first few minutes of the video I shot at Ariel last November. If he showed up to the triple-feature in August... ____________________________________________ Feel free to delete me out of your video. Showing up at the Auburn triple feature??? Let's see now....what's that saying about hell freezing over...? MeyerLouie

They had the death penalty set to TEN YEARS OLD at one time? OMG. Tell you one thing. This woman is being released, sure. But she needs to be permanently banned from owning any knives. _____________________________________________ There you go again, Blevins -- and what relevance does this have to DB Cooper...???? It just doesn't get through, does it? MeyerLouie

Is that how you see things? LOL you haven't contributed a thing except over-the-top, garbage-mouth insults for weeks now. Sometimes one right on top of the other. When I met you at Ariel, you seemed like a nice guy. Now it's gotten to the point where Gayla thinks you might actually be dangerous in real life. No kidding. (She doesn't post here, but she occasionally drops by just to read what's going on.) One thing you do is keep calling everything I have presented a lie. But you've never said which, what, or where. Just 'everything'. As if I would be stupid enough to put my name, address, and phone number on a false report to a Seattle FBI office only twenty miles from my house. Do you realize what would happen to me if the FBI went around and checked those allegations, wasting their time, and found out it was all a pack of lies? They would probably arrest me on some Federal charge or another. And I'm not stupid enough to put myself into that situation. So stop saying I lied about everything unless you are ready to prove it. If you are really here to discuss the Cooper case, then back off and start doing it. _____________________________________________ Actually I'm not all that dangerous in real life -- I just have this thing for not caring what I say to people I have absolutely no respect for. If I were dangerous in real life, then I wouldn't have a PhD and be teaching at a well respected university. They don't hire dangerous people here. This is a public forum, Blevins, not real life -- although for you, I can see how fantasy and reality have gotten confused for you here. I don't think you intentionally lie, Blevins. You just go off half-cocked, and the erroneous information that comes out just sounds like a lie. I probably shouldn't fault you for your inability to logically think things through and your inability to critically think about things. But I do fault you for using the forum for your personal and financial gain. Sounds like Smokin's words have given you a ton of confidence. I'm going to take her motherly advice and just try to ignore you. You and everyone else here know exactly where I stand and what I really think of you. I can let up on that. So, I guess this means I won't be getting a Christmas card this year, huh? MeyerLouie

Really? Case closed? Says who? Name a verifiable source, please. Marla Cooper claimed the same thing in December 2011 and so far that hasn't happened. On the chance you are right, then you never know. Maybe they ARE closing the case. Maybe the Seattle FBI finally took the time to go around and talk to a few people. Hey, it could happen. I gave them a not-too-bad head start.

Really? Case closed? Says who? Name a verifiable source, please. Marla Cooper claimed the same thing in December 2011 and so far that hasn't happened. On the chance you are right, then you never know. Maybe they ARE closing the case. Maybe the Seattle FBI finally took the time to go around and talk to a few people. Hey, it could happen. I gave them a not-too-bad head start.

I suppose my biggest question regarding Dewey and LD would be this: If Marla's story is true, and she was told all of these things about the hijacking by her father...then why doesn't at least ONE member of her family who was there that Thanksgiving support her story? Her sister, brother, and mother were all there, and they are all still alive. In other words, 'Where's The Beef?' I also have difficulty believing that on the very day before the hijacking LD supposedly already had Dan Cooper comics pinned to his bedroom wall at the Sisters, OR home. The nearest place to obtain these French-based comics was eastern Canada. Mostly they were available in Belgium, France, etc. It's very convenient. Just saying. It is also very in-convenient that the first time the comics were mentioned publicly as a possible clue was in 2008, when LD died back in 1999. Most people would think Marla simply heard about the comics the same way everyone else did...and then decided to boost her story by claiming LD had some on his wall. Why would LD drive from Oregon clear across the country, go into Canada...just to pick up some obscure French comics? Did he speak French? How would he have heard of them when they weren't even being sold or distributed in the US? As I pointed out in my quotes from the Marla interview, she was inconsistent at best with her answers. On the question of whether LD knew how to use a chute, she replied that someone in her family told her he was a paratrooper. But in the next question she says LD was in the Navy, and even said where he was stationed. This definitely does NOT make sense. Another inconsistency: Marla has told a story (giving some details) about LD coming down near Sisters, losing the money on the way down, and an alleged search for the money later. (No results of that search were given) But later...when reminded of the Tena Bar money...Marla has claimed that LD actually came down near the Columbia. This one is shaky, and could be an honest mistake on her part. Still...if all of these things actually happened on Thanksgiving in that reletively small house...where IS THE TESTIMONY FROM OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS? Marla's mother is still alive. Marla has claimed that her father was the person who mainly told her all these things shortly after the hijacking. I find it difficult to believe that father would fill Marla in on details...and then tell his wife nothing. Yet...mother has offered nothing to support Marla's story except 'years later I suspected that LD might be Cooper'. There are two possible answers on WHY Marla's family won't support her story. 1) LD was the hijacker, no one wants to admit it, and the family is covering up. The problem with that scenario is that the FBI spent quite a while investigating the LD allegation. Do you think these people are going to start lying to FBI agents when questioned, simply to protect the family reputation? All of them? For such an extended length of time that the investigation went on? Tell you what...if the FBI comes to my door with questions, I'm going to answer them as truthfully as possible. They do have a way of making people come to Jesus. 2) LD was NOT the hijacker, and Marla either made the whole thing up, or was simply mistaken. It's hard to fathom her motivations if she was really playing games with the FBI. Would someone go that far just to create (in her own words) a 'media frenzy'? I don't know. ______________________________________________ Blevins, do you just have a file somewhere called MarlaRebuttal.doc where all you have to do is cut and paste it in to every post on her? How many times do we have to hear your opinion of what Marla said about the comic books? Why do find it necessary to repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same old shit each and every time? It's obvious -- you have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and you lack the ability to engage in original thinking. I think that's called diminished mental capacity (DMC). Bad combination -- they may be why you're so irritating. Maybe you just can't help yourself, who knows? MeyerLouie

Really? Case closed? Says who? Name a verifiable source, please. Marla Cooper claimed the same thing in December 2011 and so far that hasn't happened. On the chance you are right, then you never know. Maybe they ARE closing the case. Maybe the Seattle FBI finally took the time to go around and talk to a few people. Hey, it could happen. I gave them a not-too-bad head start.

I am not the Evil One, nor am I the first joker around here to go off-topic occasionally. ________________________________________________ That's true, Blevins. You don't go off-tipic occasionally, you go off topic pretty much everyday -- with every post now. MeyerLouie

Blevins wrote: Yeah...well I posted it up just the ONE time for courtesy...and Meyer comes back with his all-cap crap full of insults. Let me tell you something Shutter. People try to GIVE us money when we do this thing each year at the theatre. Sometimes they force it on us, no kidding. Know where it goes? Childrens' Hospital in Seattle, that's where. ______________________________________________ AND WE NEED TO KNOW THIS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY INFORMATION, ON THE DB COOPER FORUM, BECAUSE.........?????? LOOK NUMB NUTS, GO TO THE CHALKBOARD ARE WRITE ON THE BOARD 100 TIMES: 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'...... 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD' 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'...... 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'..... 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'...... 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD' 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'...... 'THIS INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY ON THE DZ THREAD'.... REPETITION IS NECESSARY FOR THE UNUSUALLY DENSE, THICK-HEADED ONES..... MeyerLouie ______________________________________________ The guy is hateful and spends his every waking moment at Dropzone saying hateful things. _______________________________________________ THAT BE ME, NUMB NUTS. BUT ONLY TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU RICHLY DESERVE IT. MeyerLouie _______________________________________________ However, I will agree that enough notice has been given and I will make no more mention of it. _______________________________________________ LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE! ______________________________________________ Hey, I know perfectly well that the only person from DZ who might show up is Bruce Smith. Most everyone else lives far away. ______________________________________________ NO BLEVINS, MOST PEOPLE WON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY LIVE FAR AWAY. MOST PEOPLE WON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE OF YOU -- AND ONLY BECAUSE OF YOU. DON'T SELL YOURSELF SO SHORT. LIKE ALL THOSE BOLDED CAPS? I THOUGHT YOU WOULD. BYE BYE NOW. GO PLAY IN YOUR SANDBOX. MeyerLouie

_______________________________________________ You're such a child, Blevie.

MeyerLouie: I don't think I can respond to your many comments there, not totally at least, but I will try. First, the announcement above is just a courtesy. I already know 99.99% of attendees will either be people going to the Auburn Days festival, or they will be members of the Northwest Sci-Fi Society. The theatre event doesn't make us money, we do it because it's fun, and because it's a nice thing to do...especially in a town where they just closed down our drive-in theatre that had been open for nearly fifty years. We pay for all the refreshments, the blanket license from MPLC, the Criterion license, and there is no admission. We don't sell books at the event, and it doesn't say 'AB of Seattle' on the marquee either, LOL. That's about as non-promotional as it gets. _______________________________________________ NOBODY CARES, BLEVINS. LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE! NOBODY CARES! TMI -- IT'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION, IT'S IRRELEVANT, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE HERE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY! WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?? THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BOTHERED TO POST THE INFORMATION HERE ABOUT YOUR FRICKIN' AUBURN DAYS IS, BY ITSELF, PROMOTIONAL. YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME. YOU USE THIS FORUM TO 'GET THE WORD OUT,' FREE OF CHARGE, ON ALL SUBJECTS 'NON-DB COOPER' PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. NOBODY ELSE HERE IS DOING IT, ONLY YOU. MeyerLouie ______________________________________________ As far as your comment about Christiansen, I understand why you would say he's not the hijacker. Makes sense. Opinion out there in Cooperland and with the general public is divided. Some say he is, others are sure he's not, (Like you) and some aren't sure. (Like me) _______________________________________________ I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY -- MOST THINK KENNY IS NOT DB COOPER. LIKE JO, NEITHER OF YOU HAVE OFFERED UP ONE THREAD OF PROOF ABOUT ANY OF YOUR CLAIMS. JO BADMOUTHS THE FBI PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY NOW. IF SHE (AND YOU FOR THAT MATTER) GAVE THEM SOMETHING TANGIBLE, SOMETHING SOLID, THEN THEY (THE FBI) MIGHT GIVE YOU AND JO THE TIME OF DAY. INSTEAD, THE FBI TOTALLY IGNORES YOUR KC REPORT AND TOTALLY IGNORE JO AS SOME CRAZY WOMAN. IF ALL I HAD IS WHAT YOU AND JO HAVE, I'D KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT -- AT LEAST UNTIL I COULD COUGH UP SOMETHING TANGIBLE. BUT NO, YOU AND JO FIND IT NECESSARY TO TAKE UP OVER 50% OF THE AIR TIME HERE PEGGING EVERYTHING INTO YOUR UNSUBSTANTIATED THEORIES AND POSING IRRELEVANT, INAPPROPRIATE, AND/OR UNNECESSARY INFORMATION AND ADS. NOBODY ELSE ON THE THREAD IS DOING THAT -- JUST YOU AND JO, AND YOU BOTH FIND IT NECESSARY TO HOG THE SHOW TO DO IT. WHY DON'T THE TWO OF YOU JUST BE QUIET?. COME BACK WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE SOMETHING. AND FOR YOU, QUIT GETTING FREE ADVERTISING FOR EVERYTHING BLEVINS ON THIS FORUM. YOU DO IT WITH IMPUNITY, YOU VIOLATE PROTOCOL, YOU ARE STILL HERE. AMAZING!

***The Auburn Days committee had another meeting today to hammer out details on this or that. After working with Criterion, and the MPLC on our blanket licenses, we finally came to this plan for Saturday, August 10th at the Auburn Avenue Theatre. This will be my only post about it at Dropzone. ______________________________________________ I think we all know this is a flat out lie. You can't resist using the thread for your own personal and financial gain. By the way, how many DZ forum members actually show up for your Auburn Days? I"m betting zilcho, none, nada. So, why do you insist on advertising it here, on the forum? Bruce and I probably live as close to you as anybody. I've never heard Bruce say he's attended (although you'll have to ask him). I never have, and never will. You get no takers, so why are you advertising your Auburn shindigs here? You continue to use the thread like it's your flop house -- you think you can come and go as you please, and do as you please. It ain't going to last forever, dude. It's just a matter of time. I'm surprised Quade has let you run rough shod over the forum like this. He has let you single-handedly ruin the forum with your shenanigans. So many good people aren't here anymore, but Quade doesn't seem to care. MeyerLouie