Phoenix Pants vs Pressurized Pants

[eipmoez 0]

Hi,

has anybody been able to fly both the Pressurized setup (jacket + pants) as well as the Phoenix setup (jacket + pants) in a skydiving environment? Base experience is welcome, but I'm more interested in skydive stories.

Three seems to be a slight price difference between the two as well.

Thanks,

Eipmoez

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[leroydb 0]

probally not as of yet, but with both companies being overall new, there will be some major competition in the near future.

One obvious thing I must point out though is that a good flyer/tracker in a lesser(?) suitwill outfly a lesser flyer in the most advanced suit, like has been said with wing suits.

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[ramon 0]

cool video of the pressureized suit from Brento (34 seconds).

ramon

"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce.

[leroydb 0]

just kiddingg....

if you would have setup your profile I would have been able to email you the phoenix setup vs the BM track pants vid...

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[portillo 0]

i´ve heard that somebody flew the pressurized suit over empuriabrava. does anybody know the guy?! he could tell a bit more...

dru

[base915 0]

Yup, It was me.

I borrowed the prototype pressurized pantz from Andreus. Did 3 or 4 jumps from the nose in Lauterbrunnen, two from Brento and two from the blue Porter in Empuria.

Mike.

[portillo 0]

tell a bit more!!!
how did it feel?! what about the performance?! did you jump the phoenix suit as well?!

DRU

[base915 0]

Ok, I haven't jumped the Phoenix suit, only the first generation birdman pantz.
I met Andreus in Brento earlier this year when he was testing his home made version of the pressurized pantz, he was getting 20+ seconds then. I bumped into him again in Lauterbrunnen in August where he was jumping the production prototype pressurized suit. He very kindly let me borrow it for a couple of weeks:
The first couple of jumps, from The Nose, were a bit hit and miss. Jump one, I exited OK but didn't have my legs quite even when I spread the leg wing so I ended up in a left turn back towards the cliff (which was exciting). No2 was a bit better but still saw the cliff, No3 was better still, only got it flying for the last couple of seconds but felt the fall rate slow and got much further than I usualy do, still not quite as far as the road.
The hit and miss performance put me off a little bit so I didn't use them from The Mushroom, however I did jump them from Brento.
Little bit nervous on the edge due to the previous turning experience but the first flight was awesome. Got way out on the talus.
However the second jump from Brento was the decider. 100% superb. Did more of a 'student' poised exit so got them flying quicker (Note to Andi; could maybe do with bigger vents) started tracking, brought my arm back into more of a delta position and lifted my hips up a bit and took off. Felt huge lift around the crotch area, the fall rate slowed way down, it got quiet again, and I started covering ground. Awesome feeling.
The jumps at Empuria were also excelent. Very similar to wing suit jumps but without the restrictions to movement. I didn't try any aerobatics, just tried to tweak the flying position, at 5000' I brought my arms forward into a stable box position ready to deploy and waited for my 3500' beeps, and waited. Eventualy I deployed thinking my pro dytter had broken, the beeps went off under canopy. Such a slow fall rate.

Anyhoo thats my Pressurise experience, I will get a suit. I think the Phoenix suit is more versatile for BASE, complete mobility, but I think the flying performance of the Pressurized suit makes it the winner for me.

Personal opinion only.


Cheers

Mike