markovwgti 0 #1 December 18, 2007 OK so heres the deal! I originally had a HC-40 for a few weeks with a liquid sky .45mm wideangle lens...25mm thread! I got bored of the set-up and found a clean barely used pc-1000 for a sick price! Well i bought it and im left over with the liquid sky lens.. Now i went to the camera shop nearby and they told me that no one makes a step down adaptor from 30mm-25mm...so he talked me into getting a lens from him..he gave me 100$ for my liquid sky lens and i gave hi another 100$ and he hooked me up with this .42 lens set-up..Now the deal is theres no name on it..but it seems to work well, Its also a macro so i can zoom in as far as i want and it wont get blury..i really get lost at this point so im asking you guys if i got ripped or not!! here are some pictures of the lens..and then some pics i took with my pc-1000 with the lens on it. BTW dont mind the vignetting..it was caused from a ugly huge filter at the end of it!!...its not there anymore Pictures 2,3 and 5 were taken with the lens on the pc-1000...the rest with my pc1000 without the lens on obviously! Oh and the price for the lens he sold me was originally 300$...he gave it to me for 200$..100$ of it was trade in! so i only took 100 out of my pocket~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #2 December 18, 2007 DSE Chime in pleasee!!!! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #3 December 18, 2007 Not sure what you'd like me to say....not a trade I would have made but if you like this glass better....doesn't matter what I think. FWIW, the lens you posted in image http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=93940; is a Tokina/Kenko, looks like the KUW 042 or the SGW05 (i'm almost certain it's the KUW 042). In either event, neither lens retails for more than $99.00. Kenko makes perhaps 30% of the various wides in the low end, under various names and OEM's. They have a "pro" series, but the lens you posted isn't one of them. Pretty wide for a beginning camera flyer, but if it suits your flying ability or what you're shooting (close in belly or freefly) then it works for you, yeah? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #4 December 18, 2007 hmmm do you think id be better off bringing it back and getting my other lens back with my money and all? What should i do with the liquid sky lens i have that wont fit this camera? Do you think cookie would take it as a return? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #5 December 18, 2007 Well...the Cookie lens is a much more expensive lens, albeit not a zoom-thru. I'd probably try to sell it on DZ.com and buy a Cookie or Royal with a correct mount ring. or contact Cookie and tell your story. Maybe they can help. Or...just accept that you've got an overpriced wide angle lens on your camera; it might be a fun story to tell. I like telling a story about my $250.00 coffee mug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #6 December 18, 2007 sounds good...im going there bright and early and demanding it back...guy said i cna go get it bakc if i wanted to..im just gona tell him it wont fit in the box!! thanks for the help brotha.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 9 #7 December 18, 2007 Sorry cuz, but I bought one of those for about US$40 - 2nd hand. That being said I use it for shooting tandems and its great. Thats assuming that its a Kenko 0.422 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #8 December 18, 2007 Quote they told me that no one makes a step down adaptor from 30mm-25mm...so he talked me into getting a lens from him..he gave me 100$ for my liquid sky lens and i gave hi another 100$ and he hooked me up with this .42 lens set-up.. I think you mean a step Up as the HC40 has a 25mm thread and the PC1000 has 30mm. http://cgi.ebay.com/25mm-30mm-25-30-Step-Up-Filter-Ring-Stepping-Adapter_W0QQitemZ300174707919QQihZ020QQcategoryZ67358QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem This is $6 delivered in the states and took about 5 minutes to find on Ebay. here is a 30 to 25mm ring as well: http://www.camerafilters.com/detail.aspx?ID=2730 Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 December 18, 2007 Ask people who know a little about camera flying before you make rash decisions and you'll save some money and frustration. Is there no camera flyer at the DZ you jump that will help you? Of course the may resist giving advice since you're under sensible minimums. Your camera shop expert, just sold you a $50 lens for $100 plus your $150 lens. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #10 December 18, 2007 yes, but he wouldn't want to be mounting a 25mm thread on a 30mm thread lens. 30mm thread lens on a 25mm mount would be OK, however. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 0 #11 December 18, 2007 Get a waycool with filter. I loved mine when I had it -BowenRetired Tunnel Instructor, Sky/Tunnel Coach Former dealer for 2k Composites, Skysystems, Alti-2, Wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #12 December 18, 2007 Quoteyes, but he wouldn't want to be mounting a 25mm thread on a 30mm thread lens. 30mm thread lens on a 25mm mount would be OK, however. I guess I was referring more to the statement that it was NOT available. Seems strange for a shop to claim that. All they would have to do is just open one of the catalogs they probably have behind the counter. Really, I guess I would be questioning the specific shop for what they appear to have done in the cost of the new lens compared to the value of the old I use a step down on a 30 to 25 when I use my Royal 0.3x. I would be interested in seeing what level of "ring" he might get with the 25mmn lens on the 30mm camera as I have not tried it.. Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #13 December 18, 2007 My home dropzone is claosed for the season as winter is here...and stop talking about my jump numbers as i didnt update them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #14 December 18, 2007 Well good news i went bakc and i got my liquid sky lens back..and he gave me a sony vcl-dho730 lens ....made out ok in the end..im actually selling my liquid sky lens to a guy near me for 100$ tonight! just gona order the same lens but 30mm thread size tonight from cookie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 0 #15 December 18, 2007 get a Way CoolRetired Tunnel Instructor, Sky/Tunnel Coach Former dealer for 2k Composites, Skysystems, Alti-2, Wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 December 18, 2007 QuoteMy home dropzone is claosed for the season as winter is here...and stop talking about my jump numbers as i didnt update them Then report them accurately, or is there something you don't want people to know?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #17 December 18, 2007 no there isnt anything i dont want anyone to know...i would just like to keep the way it is so other people dont discriminate against jump numbers :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 December 18, 2007 There is a reason to restrict activities based on jump numbers. It's called safety.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #19 December 18, 2007 Don't discriminate! Skydiving should be an equal opportunity sport. Everybody should be allowed (and encouraged) to do anything they want regardless of experience. It's sad that some people have to hide how much experience they really have because of [what do you call someone that discriminates based on experience?]s like you. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #20 December 18, 2007 Quoteget a Way Cool Why? No discrimination against Waycool or favorism towards Cookie, I'm just curious as to why you'd recommend Waycool over Cookie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 December 18, 2007 Yeah, I know. Don't worry, things are changing. I hear the FAA's gonna hand out commercial tickets with every Private Certificate. There's a sale on ratings too.....buy your AFF and TI ratings and get a free riggers ticket. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #22 December 18, 2007 Quoteno there isnt anything i dont want anyone to know...i would just like to keep the way it is so other people dont discriminate against jump numbers :) Why not keeping a log book? Then you would know your jump numbers and wouldn't have to 'annoy' any one... Just a thought.... And btw, it's mandatory at least in some countries.....“The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 0 #23 December 18, 2007 I have seen both and like the way cool. I think they are both great. they both have filter options. -BowenRetired Tunnel Instructor, Sky/Tunnel Coach Former dealer for 2k Composites, Skysystems, Alti-2, Wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #24 December 18, 2007 QuoteThere's a sale on ratings too.....buy your AFF and TI ratings and get a free riggers ticket. NO DUDE you heard wrong, all wrong......it's a mail in rebate kind o deal on the riggers ticket,.....not free!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #25 December 18, 2007 Howzabout we keep this thread focused on lenses and bad sales deals, and start a new thread about jump numbers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
