jdhill 0 #1 May 2, 2002 Does anyone take the time or go through the trouble of obtaining a license to use misic in skydiving videos like tandems, year end reviews, boogie videos, or things like Cloud's Edge or Swoop?Has anyone ever gotten busted for not doing it?http://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 May 2, 2002 It's definately a fine line that most people are walking or stepping over.Basically, if you plan on ONLY using the music for your own personal use (home movies shown to your family) you can do whatever you want -- totally legal.If, on the other hand, you intend to resell the video or show it to a group of people, then you've violated the copyright holder in maybe a couple of ways; distribution, performance and sync.Sync rights are for using the music in syncronization to images. This could be a video, film, slide show or something of that nature.Performance rights are presenting that music in front of a group of people. That could be a film festival, the bar, a bed sheet by the pool at the DZ.Distribution rights include making copy of your product and passing/selling them around en masse. This would be video sales and things like that.Ok, so, are you going to get busted?Well, if you make a tandem video -- probably not, but it's always possible. If you live near L.A. or N.Y., you might want to think about it as celebrities have been known to visit dropzones from time to time. I've never heard of anyone getting busted, but like I said, it is possible. You could play dumb and their lawyers would probably just send you a nasty letter telling you to stop doing it.Film festivals -- Although I've seen rights issues posted in the rules for say, The Flyboyz Freefly Film Festival, I've also seen this widely ignored and I can't imagine that a lot of folks actually went to the time and trouble to get the rights. Are you going to get busted? Probably not. Then again, if you take your video to say, Sundance, yeah, you probably WILL get busted.Distribution -- yeah, they're going to bust your ass and good. If you plan on making a video tape for sale, say "Good Stuff" by Joe Jennings, then the music absolutely needs to be squeeky clean when it comes to rights. If not, you're asking for a world of legal hurt.OK, so how do you go about getting the rights to music?There are companies in L.A. and N.Y. that do nothing but secure the rights to music. It's a funky legal thing. No, it's not usually sufficient to simply get the permission from the artist because usually companies own a portion of the rights as well. It can be a nightmare. Whenever you hear a pop tune used a movie, you can be certain that there was a shit load of lawyers involved.Fortunately, there IS an alternative, but you have to give up the concept of using exactly the piece of music you really wanted to use -- music librarys.Music librarys come in two basic forms; needle-drop and buy-out.Needle-drop librarys are where you pay per cut of music. They can have various fee structures for various forms of usage, so make sure you understand what you're getting into. One such library is Network Music. I've used them for years on a number of projects and have never had a real issue with them. They are a bit pricy, but the stuff sounds great.Buy-out librarys you pay for the CD and you can use the music however the hell you feel. There aren't too many of these around and, well, you get what you pay for. I don't really have any to recommend.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #3 May 2, 2002 "Buy-out librarys you pay for the CD and you can use the music however the hell you feel. There aren't too many of these around and, well, you get what you pay for. I don't really have any to recommend."IME this music is..., well..., lets just say its crap.......But it is legal, even if your soundtrack will sound like cheesy porn.CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #4 May 2, 2002 Thanks for your reply...how much does it cost for sync rights? (i assume it is differnt from song to song, but if I were looking to plug a number in to a budget, say)how much is music network?http://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 May 2, 2002 For any rights to pop tunes, it varies way too much to put a specific amount and assume it's going to pan out the way you planned. It also depends on exactly what you're planning to do with it. What's this for a commercial, bar tape, tandem stuff? Along with sync you'll probably also need performance or distribution. If you could tell me the specific usage, then it'd be a little easier to give you a WAG* on the estimate.As for Network Music, like I said check out their web site. I made a clickable link in the previous post. Just click on it and explore.*WAG = Wild Ass Guessquadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #6 May 2, 2002 Say, for a year end review about 1 hr long, about 9 songsor an event video, like a record attempt, maybe 30 minutes longboth would be primarily for the participants to view at home, and maybe shown some around the DZ.http://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #7 May 2, 2002 Hmmm, something in mind Josh? CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #8 May 2, 2002 As you know, this year's YER is already in the can... thinking about doing next years for a wider market... also the the TSR next month... and whatever else my brain thinks up between beers... I just can't stand that cheezy loop stuff that comes w/ Premier...http://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #9 May 2, 2002 Well, hmmm, if it's something not in a music library like a pop song, to do it correctly might cost you maybe $2000 per song. Probably way out of your budget.For something at Network Music, go HERE.Just to give you a basic idea of what their fee structure is like go HEREquadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #10 May 2, 2002 you are correct that the $2K/song number is way out of the ball park... the music library scedule looks to be more reasonable... thanks again for your help.Joshhttp://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #11 May 2, 2002 Quoteyou are correct that the $2K/song number is way out of the ball park... Ya know, I could dig up a kazoo & a mouth harp and make you a real nice soundtrack for nothing. "Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #12 June 19, 2009 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tec_music_downloading Some thing to think about. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
