Niklasp 0 #1 September 13, 2004 What is the ultimate wingloading for swooping? just wordering... I load my vx 2.0. would I forexample bennefit from a smaler or cannopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #2 September 13, 2004 A majority of the people winning the comps and their competitors are at 2.0 and slightly higher(.1,.2.3 etc) if you want a guage to go by."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #3 September 13, 2004 QuoteA majority of the people winning the comps and their competitors are at 2.0 and slightly higher(.1,.2.3 etc) if you want a guage to go by. Yep, they're also getting on bigger and bigger canopies. Ian, Shannon and Jay from PD are all on Velocity 103's now, wearing weights. Blues IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chileanXaos 0 #4 September 14, 2004 but from 2.0 to slightly higher to 2.3 its a big step , does someone knows what is the wingloading of JC in his record , to have like a point that we can say that is the wingloading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #5 September 14, 2004 it is entirely canopy specific. Velocities 2.1 (so Jay says), not sure on VX/XAOS 27's but Jim Slaton said the 27's like to be loaded higher. Ask him on his canopy piloting website. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #6 September 14, 2004 Here's my thoughts on the issue... VX-2.0-2.2(max) for distance Velo 2.0 for distance FX 1.85-1.9 for distance XAOS ???? I havn't really jumped precision to much Get the biggest wing that you can get and wear the weight. The more surface area over you the more lift you get the longer you swoop. I believe JC is jumping a 111 or 114 VX or something along that size. The other thing to think about is wing loading is secondary to a good technique. Someone with a higher WL will get a better swoop if his or her technique is better. Combining the two will make you unbeatable. That's all I have to say about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chileanXaos 0 #7 September 14, 2004 For you guys if you havent jumped the xaos-21 the only I can talk you are missing a great canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #8 September 14, 2004 I will admit that it does open nicely! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j3zz 0 #9 September 14, 2004 Quote Get the biggest wing that you can get and wear the weight. The more surface area over you the more lift you get the longer you swoop. I believe JC is jumping a 111 or 114 VX or something along that size. SUrely there is some trade off between surface area\lift and drag?? I am not a swooper but am interested to know what is the perfect combination of size\wingloading for maximum results "Now I know why the birds fly" Hinton Skydivers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #10 September 14, 2004 I'm not exactly sure what the perfect combo is, but yes there is a point when you have so much canopy over yur head that you can't get it to speed up. But the cross braced canopy's are designed to pick up a lot of speed in a turn, so you can have a slightly bigger canopy. Most of the manufacturers will not make a CB canopy bigger than a 120. Just imaging a 190 vx or a 210 vx. You would be doing tandems with it just to load it up. The pack volumn would be astronomical, along with the cost. So to answer you question the ratio of canopy size to wingloading is going to be different for each person. How much weight is that person comfortable wearing, how big of a rig do they want, ect ect ect. I hope this has helped shed some light on the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopdaddio 0 #11 September 16, 2004 Something to consider if you're up sizing, increased front riser pressure. There is a noticable difference between a Velo 90 to a Velo 96 so I would imagine going up to a Velo 103 would create more pressure, get to the gym if you're considering it. Authors qualifications........p.b. in distance 370ft25 years & still lovin' it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites