talon1206 0 #1 July 2, 2007 I love it when a student has a jump and everything clicks. It keeps me working Harder every day to help them be better jumpers. Thought this was a cool pic of one of my students. -Bailey "Pilots without Maintainers are just pedestrians with cool jackets and sunglasses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moto89 0 #3 July 3, 2007 Damn he looks good! I mean hot damn! That was a fun jump -Alex Less talking, more flying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #4 July 3, 2007 What is the real purpose of a coach, when a coach cannot sign a proficiency card...!!! The student has to repeat everything over to an instructor, doubling the number of jumps and time required to get a license. It is nice to practice with someone, but that someone should be an instructor. Based on personal experience..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #5 July 3, 2007 Quote What is the real purpose of a coach, when a coach cannot sign a proficiency card...!!! The student has to repeat everything over to an instructor, doubling the number of jumps and time required to get a license. It is nice to practice with someone, but that someone should be an instructor. Based on personal experience..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UUUMMMMM NO, that's not how it worksand Talon 1206; you should check your students gear a little more thoroughly. His jumpsuit is half open and his riser covers are flopping in the breeze. Just a suggestion..... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talon1206 0 #6 July 3, 2007 Well the Student gear at the DZ isnt all that good. The Riser Flaps are always like that on all our student gear. But good call on the Jump Suit, no excuse for that!! "Pilots without Maintainers are just pedestrians with cool jackets and sunglasses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talon1206 0 #7 July 3, 2007 I would check out the IRM and SIM to get a little better info before making statements like that. I have and will continue to sign off my students proficiency cards, where I am allowed to. "Pilots without Maintainers are just pedestrians with cool jackets and sunglasses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #8 July 3, 2007 QuoteI would check out the IRM and SIM to get a little better info before making statements like that. I have and will continue to sign off my students proficiency cards, where I am allowed to. Would you mind clearing the confusion up and spelling that out for us?Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #9 July 3, 2007 Check your 2007 SIM progression card, "I" indicates INSTRUCTOR. A coach cannot sign a 2007 USPA progression card, it will be rejected by the USPA. I do not make the rules, I can only follow them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RB_Hammer 0 #10 July 3, 2007 QuoteCheck your 2007 SIM progression card, "I" indicates INSTRUCTOR. A coach cannot sign a 2007 USPA progression card, it will be rejected by the USPA. I do not make the rules, I can only follow them. The two cards that I submitted, one for my A and the second for my B, both had coach signatures, IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACES. I think a coach can sign some, as long as the coach is working under the supervision of an instructor. Anyway, the USPA did not reject either of mine and did issue me first the A and then the B."I'm not lost. I don't know where I'm going, but there's no sense in being late." Mathew Quigley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #11 July 3, 2007 ok, cool. Super, I learn something new everyday. I am only trying to make the Sport easier for new people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talon1206 0 #12 July 3, 2007 Dude... you need to chill out, Look on the proficnecy card. If there is an I next to the task an instuctor must sign it off. Just as if there is a R a rigger must sign it off. Things such docking, swooping to a formation and other Cat G and H dives a coach can sign off. That is why there is a coach rating. "Pilots without Maintainers are just pedestrians with cool jackets and sunglasses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirPilot 0 #13 July 4, 2007 ok, cool thanks for the info, all is welcome. But even the docking endorsement requires an "I" instructor, I do not see that a coach can sign anywhere. Every line on the card requires "I." Thanks... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talon1206 0 #14 July 4, 2007 From the SIM Sec 4-1 A USPA Coach may conduct freefall training and supervise jumps for those students in Categories E through H. A USPA Coach may also supervise static line and IAD students following a successful clear-and-pull in Category C. Until the USPA A license, all student training remains the responsibility of the USPA Instructor. Also attached is the Student progression card. Notice on Cat E-H (page 2) there is a I/C sig block. That is for the Instructor or the Coach. "Pilots without Maintainers are just pedestrians with cool jackets and sunglasses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Velo96 0 #15 July 4, 2007 Coaches work under the supervision of an instructor. The Instructor must verify and sign for all items on the 2 sided card since that card lists only the advancement criteria for the various skills required for the A license. The A license progression card lists line-by-line all of the items a student needs to be trained for, some of which can be taught by a coach and initialed by the coach. Sounds like you need to find a DZ that has some patience and staff that understands how to train students using a modern system, so you are better prepared to fly a modern canopy along with all of the other things an A licensed skydiver should know. Maybe if more drop zones followed the ISP we would have fewer jumpers screwing themselves into the ground flying canopies they are not prepared to handle in a tough situation. Go ahead and flame away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanvasAnchor 0 #16 July 9, 2007 I am interested in expanding my sky diving horizons , not merely for studying different styles . For the longest time now I would like to get started in wing suit as well . Can anyone recommend any good coaches instructors , for this discipline either in New York region or Florida ?Who is picking up the tab for all of this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #17 July 9, 2007 I'd say stick with the folks in NY. The peeps down in Florida don't know what they are doing.Please don't hurt me Chuck. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanvasAnchor 0 #18 July 10, 2007 I'd say stick with the folks in NY. The peeps down in Florida don't know what they are doing. Please don't hurt me Chuck. Thanks monky , do you personally know of an instuctors or coaches in New York area ? Who is picking up the tab for all of this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanvasAnchor 0 #19 July 10, 2007 Cool did not realize before my last response to you that the monkey was a clicky thank you . So you coach at Z-hills several people have recommend , Z-hills to me over the last few days thank you . Maybe I can get there for a few lessons and jumps , while I am in Florida for Disney trip next month . Otherwise I'll be there regularly I hope after September . Cool Monkey clicky , how did you do that ?Who is picking up the tab for all of this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #20 July 10, 2007 No, I don't coach at Z-hills. I'm a westcoast jumper. I've only been there once, and couldn't even jump. I was poking fun at Chuck. He is at Z-hills and has just a few more wing suit jumps than me. Stop by and have some fun. He'll do you right. I will be attending F&D 3.5. maybe see you there. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanvasAnchor 0 #21 July 13, 2007 Cool thanks monky . Freezone has offered to steer me in the right direction to . I really appreciate the input and advice . I have to get a suit also but freezone has offered to help with that also .Who is picking up the tab for all of this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
