MikeTJumps 4 #1 July 5, 2005 Here is a link to an extensive compilation of our industry's statistics, courtesy of Dan Poynter. http://parapub.com/parachute/statistics.htmlMike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #2 July 5, 2005 clicky SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #3 July 5, 2005 Some interesting figures in there. But I had to laugh at the age statistics - 20% of skydivers are aged 0 - 29. Wonder how many of those are aged 0? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeTJumps 4 #4 July 5, 2005 Beats me, but I'll bet there are some in-utero jumps that would fit into that catagory!Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,147 #5 July 5, 2005 Quotein-utero jumps Who would do such a thing Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #6 July 5, 2005 QuoteBeats me, but I'll bet there are some in-utero jumps that would fit into that catagory! I would 24x's, so I was told.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,147 #7 July 5, 2005 The smilie and angelic is because my son (as Mike T knows) has about 50 Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #8 July 5, 2005 QuoteThe smilie and angelic is because my son (as Mike T knows) has about 50 Wendy W. So will he be on our 2nd gen jump at SkyFest??? well...will he?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #9 July 5, 2005 Hi Mike. Thanks for that link. I'm struck by this stat:Manufacturer profitability (15 manufacturers) 1996-2000: $5.1 million on sales of $81 million.That's only 6% profit from gross sales. So on that $1,500 canopy we buy, they make a whopping $90. I think I'll stop bitching about the cost of parachute gear now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #10 July 5, 2005 QuoteHi Mike. Thanks for that link. I'm struck by this stat:Manufacturer profitability (15 manufacturers) 1996-2000: $5.1 million on sales of $81 million.That's only 6% profit from gross sales. So on that $1,500 canopy we buy, they make a whopping $90. *** Overall...6%??? I'll bet it's deceiving in part because it's not the cost of labor & materials that got into that gear, but the R&D and certification. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeTJumps 4 #11 July 6, 2005 Unfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #12 July 6, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. Thanks Mike, thats great Mike 88 wow! My dads BD was 7-23. Can you suggest in teh Board Meeting that they change their date, every year SkyFest conflicts with the meeting, you guys need to come and play too!Have a good one. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,647 #13 July 12, 2005 The table listing risks from various activities needs CAREFUL interpretation, since it implicitly assumes that everyone in the US is at risk from the stated activity. For example: Motorcycle rider, 3,215 incidents leading to a one year risk of 1 in 89,562 is really silly, since it assumes that all 288,000,000 Americans are motorcyclists. In fact, only motorcycle riders, a much smaller number, are at risk from dying as a result of riding a motorcycle, so the odds of dying are much higher than quoted. Using this methodology we would get the 1 year risk of dying skydiving of roughly 1 in 8 million. A useless number, since if you actually skydive the risk is around 1 in 1000, and if you don't the risk is zero.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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MikeTJumps 4 #4 July 5, 2005 Beats me, but I'll bet there are some in-utero jumps that would fit into that catagory!Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,147 #5 July 5, 2005 Quotein-utero jumps Who would do such a thing Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #6 July 5, 2005 QuoteBeats me, but I'll bet there are some in-utero jumps that would fit into that catagory! I would 24x's, so I was told.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,147 #7 July 5, 2005 The smilie and angelic is because my son (as Mike T knows) has about 50 Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #8 July 5, 2005 QuoteThe smilie and angelic is because my son (as Mike T knows) has about 50 Wendy W. So will he be on our 2nd gen jump at SkyFest??? well...will he?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 July 5, 2005 Hi Mike. Thanks for that link. I'm struck by this stat:Manufacturer profitability (15 manufacturers) 1996-2000: $5.1 million on sales of $81 million.That's only 6% profit from gross sales. So on that $1,500 canopy we buy, they make a whopping $90. I think I'll stop bitching about the cost of parachute gear now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #10 July 5, 2005 QuoteHi Mike. Thanks for that link. I'm struck by this stat:Manufacturer profitability (15 manufacturers) 1996-2000: $5.1 million on sales of $81 million.That's only 6% profit from gross sales. So on that $1,500 canopy we buy, they make a whopping $90. *** Overall...6%??? I'll bet it's deceiving in part because it's not the cost of labor & materials that got into that gear, but the R&D and certification. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeTJumps 4 #11 July 6, 2005 Unfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites upndownshop 0 #12 July 6, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. Thanks Mike, thats great Mike 88 wow! My dads BD was 7-23. Can you suggest in teh Board Meeting that they change their date, every year SkyFest conflicts with the meeting, you guys need to come and play too!Have a good one. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,647 #13 July 12, 2005 The table listing risks from various activities needs CAREFUL interpretation, since it implicitly assumes that everyone in the US is at risk from the stated activity. For example: Motorcycle rider, 3,215 incidents leading to a one year risk of 1 in 89,562 is really silly, since it assumes that all 288,000,000 Americans are motorcyclists. In fact, only motorcycle riders, a much smaller number, are at risk from dying as a result of riding a motorcycle, so the odds of dying are much higher than quoted. Using this methodology we would get the 1 year risk of dying skydiving of roughly 1 in 8 million. A useless number, since if you actually skydive the risk is around 1 in 1000, and if you don't the risk is zero.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
MikeTJumps 4 #11 July 6, 2005 Unfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe.Mike Turoff Instructor Examiner, USPA Co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #12 July 6, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately, I have two obligations from 7/7 through 7/18 that will keep me out of Texas. #1 My father's 88th birthday up in CT the weekend of 7/9-10. His BD is 7/13. #2 Participation at the USPA's BOD meeting in Alexandria, VA from Friday, 7/15 through Sunday, 7/17. Thanks Mike, thats great Mike 88 wow! My dads BD was 7-23. Can you suggest in teh Board Meeting that they change their date, every year SkyFest conflicts with the meeting, you guys need to come and play too!Have a good one. I encourage all going to the skyfest to enjoy themselves and be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #13 July 12, 2005 The table listing risks from various activities needs CAREFUL interpretation, since it implicitly assumes that everyone in the US is at risk from the stated activity. For example: Motorcycle rider, 3,215 incidents leading to a one year risk of 1 in 89,562 is really silly, since it assumes that all 288,000,000 Americans are motorcyclists. In fact, only motorcycle riders, a much smaller number, are at risk from dying as a result of riding a motorcycle, so the odds of dying are much higher than quoted. Using this methodology we would get the 1 year risk of dying skydiving of roughly 1 in 8 million. A useless number, since if you actually skydive the risk is around 1 in 1000, and if you don't the risk is zero.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites