jclalor 12 #1 May 19, 2013 Obama’s far from the only president to use an umbrella holder. http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/17/obama-scandals-now-umbrella-gate/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #2 May 19, 2013 It really kills the GOP to see a white soldier holding an umbrella for a black man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 May 19, 2013 skinnay It really kills the GOP to see a white soldier holding an umbrella for a black man It's left wingers like you who don't believe a black man can do anything for himself and always needs the white man's help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #4 May 19, 2013 skinnay It really kills the GOP to see a white soldier holding an umbrella for a black man ---------------------------------------------------------- Are you just jealous that you didn't get offered to show everyone your hands free method of holding the presidents umbrella? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 May 19, 2013 It's like the Rockman said, "you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." They literally never cared who held umbrellas before. What changed?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 May 19, 2013 quadeIt's like the Rockman said, "you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." They literally never cared who held umbrellas before. What changed? They don't care. If you read the entire statement from the original source, you will see that this website is simply stirring up shit for their brainless minions to consume. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #7 May 19, 2013 Gravitymaster***It's like the Rockman said, "you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." They literally never cared who held umbrellas before. What changed? They don't care. If you read the entire statement from the original source, you will see that this website is simply stirring up shit for their brainless minions to consume. Because the brainless minions see what they want to see.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #8 May 19, 2013 regulator ***It really kills the GOP to see a white soldier holding an umbrella for a black man ---------------------------------------------------------- Are you just jealous that you didn't get offered to show everyone your hands free method of holding the presidents umbrella? You have quite an imagination for someone that thinks they're straight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #9 May 19, 2013 Gravitymaster***It's like the Rockman said, "you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." They literally never cared who held umbrellas before. What changed? They don't care. If you read the entire statement from the original source, you will see that this website is simply stirring up shit for their brainless minions to consume. The only brainless minions are the Republicans who think it's an issue. I expect they're just pissed because neither Benghazi nor the IRS have reduced Obama's approval rating. meanwhile the Congress hardly has its approval out of single digits.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 May 19, 2013 kallend******It's like the Rockman said, "you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear." They literally never cared who held umbrellas before. What changed? They don't care. If you read the entire statement from the original source, you will see that this website is simply stirring up shit for their brainless minions to consume. The only brainless minions are the Republicans who think it's an issue. I expect they're just pissed because neither Benghazi nor the IRS have reduced Obama's approval rating. meanwhile the Congress hardly has its approval out of single digits. If you bothered reading the original source, you would see that the only one who thinks it's an issue is the dipshits who publish that website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 May 19, 2013 jclalorObama’s far from the only president to use an umbrella holder. http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/17/obama-scandals-now-umbrella-gate/ This is a stupid issue. I don't care if he doesn't hold his own umbrella. He's putting on his show. If he were playing to the common 'murikan voter, he'd hold his own, or just get rained on. Since he's trying to project strength and power using Turkish relations during a scandal, he uses a Marine. He just would have done better using secret service. Did you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? Even your source shows aids and White House staff holding them, or the secret service, or foreign military (that's their problem). I'm more concerned about his lack of respect for and knowledge of USMC tradition and regulations. But that's nothing new, and not worth throwing a hissy fit. I'm much more concerned about Gun Walker, Benghazi, IRS enemy lists, trying for more gun control, and possibly overreaching dragnets into reporter communications, to name a few.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #12 May 19, 2013 QuoteDid you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #13 May 20, 2013 jclalor QuoteDid you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. ......or on vacation.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #14 May 20, 2013 Do you know what your job is when your boss tells you to get coffee? Your job is to be a coffee runner. Likewise, if any President tells you to hold an umbrella for him, as all four of the last Presidents have, then regardless of normal protocol, your job is to be a fuckin' umbrella holder. FFS if shit goes down, all of these guys are designated bullet catchers. Keeping the rain off him is pretty fuckin' trival duty compared to that and both are an honor.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 May 20, 2013 jclalor QuoteDid you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. --------------------------------------------------- and you learned this from all the years your spent out in the field serving as a marine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #16 May 20, 2013 Quoterickjump1*** ***Did you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. ......or on vacation. Don't ever let reality get in the way of your beliefs. http://politic365.com/2012/05/08/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/ QuoteBush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency. Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. At 1,020 days, Bush was close to being on vacation more days than President John F. Kennedy’s total days in office (1,036). Representatives at the Nixon and Johnson Libraries indicate those two Presidents were on vacation less than 1,000 days during their terms. President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. Of course, staff was around all three Presidents on vacations and all White House aides argue that the commander-in-chief is never “out of touch” with work. Calls to the Eisenhower and Truman Libraries reveal that those Presidents were not on vacation for more than 1,020 days. Eisenhower was on vacation for 456 days during his 8 years in office. When asked on whether President Herbert Hoover’s vacation days could be over 500 for 4 years a historian at the Hoover Library said, “No chance. Everyone agrees he was a grinder — he was the kind of guy for whom a vacation was rare — his vacation days were less than 50.” Hoover was in office from 1929 to 1933. Frequently Hoover either drove himself on brief trips or was driven by a military attachment or took the train. President Obama was on vacation for 26 days during his first year in office (2009). Ronald Reagan spent 42 days on vacation during his first year in office (1981). President George H.W. Bush was on vacation less than his son, 40 days, in 1989, his first year in office. President Obama was on vacation less in his first year in office than the previous three Republican Presidents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #17 May 20, 2013 Yeah right According to a new report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI), President Barack Obama has spent over twice as many hours on vacation and golf (976 hours) as he has in economic meetings of any kind (474.4 hours). http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/28/REPORT-Obama-Spent-Twice-As-Much-Time-On-Vacation-Golf-As-On-Economy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,150 #18 May 20, 2013 So you're saying that in 4 1/2 years he's spent 40 days on vacation. That's the amount that first year employees in many companies get. Even if they counted the vacation as 8-hour days, that's 120 days -- about 30/year. That's at the level of senior employee in many companies, and not outside reasonable by any stretch. Comparing Bush to Obama directly is an unfair comparison -- some of Bush's time was kind of like LBJ's, where he entertained foreign dignitaries at his vacation home (although not to the degree that LBJ did). That he's spent longer on golf and vacation than he's spent in economic meetings is meaningless. How many economic meetings has he eve had the chance to participate in, and how many were appropriate for president? I'm assuming he talked about the economy at many Cabinet meetings, as well as many press conferences. If you're going to cast aspersions, pick something reasonable. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #19 May 20, 2013 jclalorQuote****** ***Did you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. ......or on vacation. Don't ever let reality get in the way of your beliefs. http://politic365.com/2012/05/08/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/ QuoteBush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency. Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. At 1,020 days, Bush was close to being on vacation more days than President John F. Kennedy’s total days in office (1,036). Representatives at the Nixon and Johnson Libraries indicate those two Presidents were on vacation less than 1,000 days during their terms. President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. Of course, staff was around all three Presidents on vacations and all White House aides argue that the commander-in-chief is never “out of touch” with work. Calls to the Eisenhower and Truman Libraries reveal that those Presidents were not on vacation for more than 1,020 days. Eisenhower was on vacation for 456 days during his 8 years in office. When asked on whether President Herbert Hoover’s vacation days could be over 500 for 4 years a historian at the Hoover Library said, “No chance. Everyone agrees he was a grinder — he was the kind of guy for whom a vacation was rare — his vacation days were less than 50.” Hoover was in office from 1929 to 1933. Frequently Hoover either drove himself on brief trips or was driven by a military attachment or took the train. President Obama was on vacation for 26 days during his first year in office (2009). Ronald Reagan spent 42 days on vacation during his first year in office (1981). President George H.W. Bush was on vacation less than his son, 40 days, in 1989, his first year in office. President Obama was on vacation less in his first year in office than the previous three Republican Presidents. It's more about timing and public perception (this is the president who went to bed the night of 9-11, not knowing the status of a US Ambassador and went off campaigning the next afternoon). http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/01/Obamas-Enjoy-Vacation-Lifestyle-of-the-One-Percent Quote: In a Sunday Washington Times column, Drudge Report editor Joseph Curl takes a look at the difference between how the last two White House occupants, President Bush and President Obama, approached vacationing as president. Curl reveals that unlike Obama, Bush was concerned with public perception (especially during the war in Iraq) and made an effort to schedule holiday vacations in a way that wouldn't take others away from their families -- even a media that despised him: “I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal,” [President George W. Bush] said years later. “I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf. I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them.” That’s also why Mr. Bush did two other things, without fanfare or praise. First, he never headed home to his Texas ranch until after Christmas, instead going to Camp David for a few days. That way, the hundreds of people revolving around him at all times — White House staff, Secret Service agents, reporters, photographers, all the others — could spend the holiday with their families in and around Washington, D.C. No one ever reported that — until this column. Second, he rarely attended sporting events, although he once owned a baseball team and was a self-confessed stats junkie. His thinking there was the same: If he went to a baseball game (right down the street from the White House), his mere presence would mean hours and hours of extra security for fans. Conversely, Obama, who never has to worry about the media turning against him (including lying for weeks about a terror attack in Libya), doesn't give a damn about public perception -- not during a recession; not even during a time when sequester cuts are being blamed for the closing of White House tours and airport control towers: How else to explain the nonstop vacations the pair keep taking during what Mr. Obama calls the “worst financial crisis since the Great Depression”? In 2013, the First Family has already enjoyed three vacations — that’s one a month. (Sorry, Joe America, you might have to forget your week at the beach again this year, but make sure you get those taxes in on time!) Curl closes the piece (which you will want to read in full) by making the point about how much this juxtaposition tells you about Obama. And indeed it does. But I would add that it also reveals just as much about our mediaDo your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. 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jclalor 12 #20 May 20, 2013 Quoteregulator*** ***Did you miss the part where US Marines are forbidden to hold umbrellas? I guess he must have been napping during his presidential orientation when they covered the USMC umbrella protocol. --------------------------------------------------- and you learned this from all the years your spent out in the field serving as a marine? I was referring to Obama, you know, when they they bring the incoming POTUS up to speed on national security, nuclear launch codes, and the umbrella protocols of the various branches of the of the US military. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #21 May 20, 2013 Quote Second, he rarely attended sporting events, although he once owned a baseball team and was a self-confessed stats junkie. His thinking there was the same: If he went to a baseball game (right down the street from the White House), his mere presence would mean hours and hours of extra security for fans. Really? Bush owned the Texas Rangers? , I guess I once owned Google. It's refreshing to see someone still defending Bush and all of his days spent at the ranch. Quote Bush received a 2% share by investing $606,302, of which $500,000 was a bank loan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_life_of_George_W._Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 20 #22 May 20, 2013 jclalorObama’s far from the only president to use an umbrella holder. http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/17/obama-scandals-now-umbrella-gate/ Someone should show Barry what the cool guys use: http://www.stltoday.com/the-brockabrella/image_18b02ed3-d33e-510a-9c8d-0684b775195e.html (A little bit of St. Louis history.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #23 May 20, 2013 Marines are getting their legs and arms blown off in stupid idiotic wars that this man authorizes and approves which will prove senseless and a waste, so holding an umbrella for the same guy is pretty light duty IMHO. I'd shine his shoes instead of walking around Iraq and Afgan looking for land mines which is all we're doing there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #24 May 20, 2013 jclalor Quote Second, he rarely attended sporting events, although he once owned a baseball team and was a self-confessed stats junkie. His thinking there was the same: If he went to a baseball game (right down the street from the White House), his mere presence would mean hours and hours of extra security for fans. Really? Bush owned the Texas Rangers? , I guess I once owned Google. It's refreshing to see someone still defending Bush and all of his days spent at the ranch. ***Bush received a 2% share by investing $606,302, of which $500,000 was a bank loan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_life_of_George_W._Bush George Bush attended 9 base ball games during his presidency, and George Bush no doubt used his influence for a bank loan and had inside help from the SEC, but George Bush never left his post as Commander-in-Chief, and if anyone was in harms way they could rest assured that help was on the way. There are similarities to what happened in Benghazi to what happened in Mogadishu under Clinton. People asked for additional security measures before the shit hit the fan and were refused. In Mogadishu, a request for light armored vehicles was refused, and people died for it. I don't particularly like Bush, but he would not purposefully abandon troops or members of our foreign service. He had what Clinton and Obama lack: respect for those who put their lives on the line for their country. The umbrella thing... If barrybarack wasn't on vacation, maybe he was doing what he does better than than anything else (when he's not lying to the public, of course)...maybe he was campaigning.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #25 May 20, 2013 No question, the president should have someone hold an umbrella over him. It should not be a Marine. I would have said the same of Reagan or Bush(s).lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites