mnealtx 0 #51 February 18, 2012 QuoteReally? An oppion piece is what you offer? How about a conservative who does not regurgitate a party line? ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaCemmsnNk Given Copperud's profession and authorship, and *especially* given the fact that Copperud was asked "that your analysis of this sentence not take into consideration issues of political impact or public policy, but be restricted entirely to a linguistic analysis of its meaning and intent", his statements are decidedly NOT an opinion piece but testimony of a subject matter expert.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #52 February 18, 2012 Quote Explain the meaning of article 1 sec 2 ,and why the 14th amendment was not 'activist'. So you believe the 14th righted a great wrong? The effective result of the 14th Amendment, Section 2 was to reduce that 3/5 number to ZERO! Freed slaves were still denied their "newly acquired" constitutional right to vote while the federal government looked the other way. But the 14th did proclaim that the number of representatives sent to Congress for a given district would be reduced proportionally ...by the number of disenfranchised citizens to the entire voting population of that district, if any citizens were denied their rights. And of course they were ...unconstitutionally but without any real challenge from the federal govt. Section 2 gave the green light for denying rights to former slaves and, with a wink, implied that there would be no real attempts at enforcement! So these citizens were now counted as "1" rather than "3/5" but now got NO representation in Congress. An argument could be made that no representation is better than having your share of representation (3/5, 1/4, 7/8 or whatever fraction) stolen by those who do not have your best interests in mind. Now the number of representatives from the former slave states were also reduced because they could no longer count their non-voting slaves by any fraction to gain congressional power. The 14th Amend., Section 1 did affirm the rights of emancipated slaves by not permitting States to "...abridge, ...nor deprive, ...nor deny....". But we all know that it took another century for any real attempt at enforcement to begin. Just like it took the first century for the original principles of equality and unalienable rights to begin to be addressed. Also - Amendment 14, Section 5 --- to paraphrase: "the fox gets to watch the henhouse". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites