dreamdancer 0 #176 November 17, 2010 it's only taken the jews a few thousand years so plenty of time for the palestinians stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #177 November 17, 2010 Quotethe palestinians are trying to get a homeland of their own - same as the israelis have done. They had a pretty good chance of doing that in 1948.... I guess they blew it when they decided they wanted to take it all and continue the work the Mufti had been engaged in with his buddies in Berlin. So why do you support a continuation of the same policies from the 1940's to exterminate all the jews??? You do realize that Hamas and Hezbollah are still following the same mindset they did in support of Germany and Italy in WWII Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #178 November 17, 2010 israel was a supporter of hamas when it first appeared - why was that?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #179 November 17, 2010 Quoteisrael was a supporter of hamas when it first appeared - why was that? Wow.. they must be importing some of the good stuff into the UK these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #180 November 17, 2010 QuoteIsrael and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years. Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies. Israel's support for Hamas "was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative," said a former senior CIA official. According to documents United Press International obtained from the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism, Hamas evolved from cells of the Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928. Islamic movements in Israel and Palestine were "weak and dormant" until after the 1967 Six Day War in which Israel scored a stunning victory over its Arab enemies. After 1967, a great part of the success of the Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood was due to their activities among the refugees of the Gaza Strip. The cornerstone of the Islamic movements success was an impressive social, religious, educational and cultural infrastructure, called Da'wah, that worked to ease the hardship of large numbers of Palestinian refugees, confined to camps, and many who were living on the edge. "Social influence grew into political influence," first in the Gaza Strip, then on the West Bank, said an administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity. According to ICT papers, Hamas was legally registered in Israel in 1978 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's spiritual leader, as an Islamic Association by the name Al-Mujamma al Islami, which widened its base of supporters and sympathizers by religious propaganda and social work. According to U.S. administration officials, funds for the movement came from the oil-producing states and directly and indirectly from Israel. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10456.htmstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #181 November 17, 2010 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA must breathe........ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DUD Information Clearing House DOT INFO BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok ok.. we have chided you for using ALTERNUT.NET... you have our permission to go back to using them. They are absolutely sane vompared to the WHACKADOODLE DOO's at this website...You really do need to get out more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #182 November 17, 2010 QuoteFollowing the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel takes over the administration of the West Bank and Gaza. Whereas Egyptian President Gamal Abddul Nasser had been tough on Islamist militants (see 1954-1970), Israel is much more permissive. One of their first actions is to release Sheikh Ahmed Yassin from prison. Yassin, a charismatic radical Islamist and the future founder of Hamas had been jailed in 1965 during one of Nasser’s crackdowns. [Dreyfuss, 2005, pp. 195] David Shipler, a former New York Times reporter, later recounts that he was told by the military governor of the Gaza Strip, Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, that the Israeli government had financed the Islamic movement to couteract the PLO and the communists. According to Martha Kessler, a senior analyst for the CIA, “we saw Israel cultivate Islam as a counterweight to Palestinian nationalism.” In the 1970s, Yassin is able to form some Islamic organizations (see 1973-1978). In the 1980s, he forms Hamas as the military arm of his organizations (see 1987). http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_202701stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #183 November 17, 2010 DUD More of the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #184 November 17, 2010 methinks the lady doth protest too much (we'll let this obviously new stuff to you sink in. dum de dum... a cog will click we hope) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #185 November 17, 2010 Shall we say the validity of the information found on the "alternative" websites you keep reverting to is right up there with nanothermite demolition by the jews and the Bildebergers of the WTC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #186 November 17, 2010 There is no way to follow your logic. What has actual history taught us about Israel and its warring neighbors, Egypt wanted peace, got it's territory back, Jordan did the same, and voila, surprise, no more crap either. Iraq, finally without SH is no longer an issue, although he really tried didn't he? Tell me if this Palestinian government would really seek peace ant stop all bombings, don't you think they would be willing to compromise? I doubt you would agree. So far the only decent attempt to respond to the subject at hand has been from idrankwhat, so thanks, still they are within their right to defend themselves to constant attacks. Have you ever been in Palestine? Have you watched any TV shows there (for kids, not rehwma's childrens by the way)? Well, I have, and the contrast with Israeli programs, is dismal about the true nature of their intentions, not only that, the maps displayed anywhere I went on Palestinian side, only showed Palestine as the whole country, living no room for Israel anywhere, yet Palestinians dream of going to work in Israel and having business there."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #187 November 17, 2010 QuoteAfter 1967, the main front organization of the brotherhood was Ahmad Yassin 's Mujama‘ (established 1973), a welfare charity (clinics, kindergartens, education), that was encouraged by Israeli civilian administration in Gaza to apply for registered charity status in 1978 and was indirectly funded by Israel as a means of dividing Palestinian society. It collected funds from from local zakat collections, Gulf Islamic organizations (often via Jordan), and expatriate Palestinians. Due to its identification of secular forces in Palestinian society as the main opponent, there was considerable tension with PLO, which climaxed in January 1980 when Islamist activists attacked Red Crescent Society offices and attempted to march on the home of its Director, Haydar ‘Abd al-Shafi. Its main base was the Islamic University of Gaza, founded after Sadat closed Egyptian universities to Gazans due to Palestinian protest at Camp David. Sheikh Awwad's preexisting religious college, the only higher education institution in Gaza, was transformed into a University, ,However, with tensions over IUG's basic policy, Mujama‘ encouraged Israeli authorities to dismiss their opponents in the committee in February of 1981, resulting in subsequent Islamisation of IUG policy and staff including the obligation on women to wear the hijab and thobe and separate entrances for men and women), and enforced by violence and ostracization of dissenters. Tacit complicity from both university and Israeli authorities allowed Mujama‘ to keep a weapons cache to use against secularists. http://www.mideastweb.org/hamashistory.htmstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
