JohnRich 4 #1 October 23, 2008 News:Gun crime 60pc higher than official figures Figures to be published by the Home Office this week will massively understate the scale of the problem. Data provided to The Sunday Telegraph by nearly every police force in England and Wales, under freedom of information laws, show that the number of firearms incidents dealt with by officers annually is 60 per cent higher than figures stated by the Home Office. Last year 5,600 firearms offences were excluded from the official figures. It means that, whereas the Home Office said there were only 9,800 offences in 2007/8, the real total was around 15,400. The latest quarterly figures, due to be released on Thursday, will again exclude a significant number of incidents. The explanation for the gulf is that the Government figures only include cases where guns are fired, used to "pistol whip" victims, or brandished as a threat. Thousands of offences including gun-smuggling and illegal possession of a firearm - which normally carries a minimum five-year jail sentence - are omitted from the Home Office's headline count, raising questions about the reliability of Government crime data... Source: Telegraph News:Knife crime worse than thought, new figures show Police figures released under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that forces in England and Wales are on course to record a total of 38,000 serious knife crimes this year – more than 100 a day. The figure is at least two-thirds higher than last year's total of 22,151 offences, announced by the Home Office in July when it unveiled its first annual count of knife crimes. The sharp rise has come about because ministers have changed the counting rules, in response to complaints that key categories of crime were excluded from last year's total... Source: Telegraph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #2 October 23, 2008 Don't you ever get bored with saying the same thing over and over again? Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #3 October 23, 2008 I didn't realise Wales was England, seeing as they are in the figures.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #4 October 23, 2008 Quote Don't you ever get bored with saying the same thing over and over again? It's not the same thing. This shows that the gun problem in England is even worse than what has previously been reported. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 #5 October 23, 2008 It was the third thing I noticed when we moved back here (American Expat living in UK, again). The first was the number of big cars on the road, the second was the number of houses being built and sold. Back in the 1900's they just threw acid in eachothers faces. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 October 23, 2008 Quote It was the third thing I noticed when we moved back here (American Expat living in UK, again). The first was the number of big cars on the road, the second was the number of houses being built and sold. Back in the 1900's they just threw acid in eachothers faces. Just makes you long for a good old "glassing", doesn't it? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 October 23, 2008 Apparently the crimes were included in the previous figures just not in the serious offenses cat. So if you swung at someone with a knife or broken bottle the crime would not have fallen into the serious crime cat but would have been recorded in the crime figures still.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #8 October 23, 2008 "It's the ECONOMY, xxxxxx."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
