Under Investigaton for Saying: Hussein Obama

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Hands up! You're under arrest for saying 'Hussein Obama!'

Posted by Bobby Eberle
October 9, 2008 at 5:57 am
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We have seen many changes in this great nation which have been brought about by left wing activists. As kids, we used to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, it's being attacked in the courts. We used to say a prayer in the morning before school or at football games. Socialists in America have deemed that "offensive" and the practice has all but disappeared. Christmas displays honoring the birth of Christ trigger convulsions by the Left, who say that we shouldn't make people feel "uncomfortable" with our manger scenes.

Now, we can't even say what we want to say in public because not only will the thought police be on patrol, but, using a recent event in Florida as an example, saying "Hussein Obama" in public might just get you a visit from the FBI. Just ask Florida's Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott who is under fire -- and investigation -- for referring to Obama at a campaign rally by his -- gasp -- full name. What is going on with America?


At a rally in Estero, Florida on Monday for Gov. Sarah Palin, one of the pre-rally speakers was Sheriff Scott. Now, anyone who has been to a political rally knows that the job of the warm-up speakers is to do exactly as the name implies: warm-up the audience. Whether the audience is cheering wildly or booing loudly, the pre-rally speakers are there to wake them up and get them going. So... according to ABC News, Sheriff Scott stepped to the podium and said, "On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened."

Oh, the shock of it all! Speaking someone's full legal name in public! When asked about the "incident," Sheriff Scott responded by saying:

“I absolutely, unequivocally don’t regret saying it,” Scott told the News-Press on Monday. “In order to be a speaker at this event, I had to give my full name — Michael Joseph Scott — to the Secret Service, even though I’m the sheriff of Lee County. So why would I apologize? Is there some kind of double standard here where I have to give my full name, but I can’t use his?”

“Unless he changed his name, my position hasn’t changed,” said Scott of Obama. “It seems very clear to me that people have one of three stances on this thing: There are those who dislike it, there are those who like it, and there are those who think it’s a whole big deal about nothing, which is where I stand.”

As noted in the Cape Coral Daily Breeze, the Palin campaign responded by issuing the following statement:

“We do not condone this inappropriate rhetoric which distracts from the real questions of judgment, character and experience that voters will base their decisions on this November.”

Fair enough. If Palin or anyone else wants to say the usage of Barack Hussein Obama is inappropriate, he or she has a right to do so. But Sheriff Scott also has a right to say what he wants to say without fear of reprisal by the government. However, according to a local Florida NBC affiliate, Sheriff Scott's remark has now earned him an investigation by the federal government.

The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform.

Sheriff Scott responded to the NBC story with the following statement:

"I am on duty 24/7 and 365 whether in or out of uniform. Like every other elected official, I am aware of from President to Governor to State Representatives, etc. We engage in political activities whether for ourselves as candidates or for others. As of this writing, I am unaware of having done anything to generate all this attention other than using the senator's full name."

The question is this... If Sheriff Scott had not said "Barack Hussein Obama," do you really think he would now be under investigation? If you answered "no," then that should send a shiver down your spine, because it means that the government is imposing pressure and creating a public example of Scott for simply saying someone's name.

Whether the investigation leads to charges or legal action is not the point. The point is that government intimidation is being brought to bear for someone exercising his first amendment right to free speech. This is wrong, regardless of whether you think his usage of Barack Hussein Obama was appropriate or not. This is still America, isn't it?

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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Hands up! You're under arrest for saying 'Hussein Obama!'

Posted by Bobby Eberle
October 9, 2008 at 5:57 am
>> Printer-Friendly Version

We have seen many changes in this great nation which have been brought about by left wing activists. As kids, we used to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, it's being attacked in the courts. We used to say a prayer in the morning before school or at football games. Socialists in America have deemed that "offensive" and the practice has all but disappeared. Christmas displays honoring the birth of Christ trigger convulsions by the Left, who say that we shouldn't make people feel "uncomfortable" with our manger scenes.

Now, we can't even say what we want to say in public because not only will the thought police be on patrol, but, using a recent event in Florida as an example, saying "Hussein Obama" in public might just get you a visit from the FBI. Just ask Florida's Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott who is under fire -- and investigation -- for referring to Obama at a campaign rally by his -- gasp -- full name. What is going on with America?


At a rally in Estero, Florida on Monday for Gov. Sarah Palin, one of the pre-rally speakers was Sheriff Scott. Now, anyone who has been to a political rally knows that the job of the warm-up speakers is to do exactly as the name implies: warm-up the audience. Whether the audience is cheering wildly or booing loudly, the pre-rally speakers are there to wake them up and get them going. So... according to ABC News, Sheriff Scott stepped to the podium and said, "On November 4, let's leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened."

Oh, the shock of it all! Speaking someone's full legal name in public! When asked about the "incident," Sheriff Scott responded by saying:

“I absolutely, unequivocally don’t regret saying it,” Scott told the News-Press on Monday. “In order to be a speaker at this event, I had to give my full name — Michael Joseph Scott — to the Secret Service, even though I’m the sheriff of Lee County. So why would I apologize? Is there some kind of double standard here where I have to give my full name, but I can’t use his?”

“Unless he changed his name, my position hasn’t changed,” said Scott of Obama. “It seems very clear to me that people have one of three stances on this thing: There are those who dislike it, there are those who like it, and there are those who think it’s a whole big deal about nothing, which is where I stand.”

As noted in the Cape Coral Daily Breeze, the Palin campaign responded by issuing the following statement:

“We do not condone this inappropriate rhetoric which distracts from the real questions of judgment, character and experience that voters will base their decisions on this November.”

Fair enough. If Palin or anyone else wants to say the usage of Barack Hussein Obama is inappropriate, he or she has a right to do so. But Sheriff Scott also has a right to say what he wants to say without fear of reprisal by the government. However, according to a local Florida NBC affiliate, Sheriff Scott's remark has now earned him an investigation by the federal government.

The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform.

Sheriff Scott responded to the NBC story with the following statement:

"I am on duty 24/7 and 365 whether in or out of uniform. Like every other elected official, I am aware of from President to Governor to State Representatives, etc. We engage in political activities whether for ourselves as candidates or for others. As of this writing, I am unaware of having done anything to generate all this attention other than using the senator's full name."

The question is this... If Sheriff Scott had not said "Barack Hussein Obama," do you really think he would now be under investigation? If you answered "no," then that should send a shiver down your spine, because it means that the government is imposing pressure and creating a public example of Scott for simply saying someone's name.

Whether the investigation leads to charges or legal action is not the point. The point is that government intimidation is being brought to bear for someone exercising his first amendment right to free speech. This is wrong, regardless of whether you think his usage of Barack Hussein Obama was appropriate or not. This is still America, isn't it?

we probably should get used to this shit. it is going to get worse under a complete left controled government.

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Hmmm, interesting read. I thought he was in trouble because he was in uniform and used his position as a police officer to endorse a candidate. I didn't realize this was a law, and although it seems kinda dumb maybe there's a good reason for it.

What I don't understand is if this is a law, then does that mean our military men and women can't wear their uniforms to a political rally or nobody holding a civil job can endorse a candidate, WTF?

However the article does make an interesting point on whether or not any of this would have came up if he didn't call Obama by his full name. Guess I don't know.

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This is the first I'm hearing of this? Was he in uniform or not? It was unclear from that article.

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This is the first I'm hearing of this? Was he in uniform or not? It was unclear from that article.

yes he was in uniform

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This is the first I'm hearing of this? Was he in uniform or not? It was unclear from that article.

Uniform or not, he is on duty 24/7, and he ran for public office himself. I think it is because he said the name that won't be read or heard on the national media. "Edited to Add" Had he used the words "worthy opponent" or something different, I don't think there would have been a fuss. You do have a good argument.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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rickjump, so does his name bother you? you don't agree that he used Barack Hussein Obama to try and make connections between his name and islam? Does anybody introduce John McCain as John Sidney McCain III?

I mean if you are bothered that the FBI is talking to a guy about using someone's full name then I got it. But Barack Obama has nothing to do with that.

The whole Hussein thing is a little weird since the two most famous Hussein's (Saddam Hussein) and (King Hussein of Jordan) are not really associated as radical Islamists.

I mean who here honestly thinks that having Hussein in his middle name is a threat to the U.S.? I have a friend who's last name is O'Neal, should British people be wary of him being IRA?

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yeah government having expanded powers over private citizens and imposing on free speech is bad. I mean I'm glad President Bush never signed the Patriot Act or anything... oh wait

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Have you watched any of the video of those people who find it amusing to say Obabma's full name, putting strong emphasis on his middle name?

It is classic fear mongering sleazy tactics by the righties. If you say his name the right way, he sounds like a scary foreigner. Who want to vote for a scary foreigner, if you are a dumbass redneck?

The Rescumlicans are going to get their heads handed to them on a platter on election day. With good reason. This country is in the toilet due to their policies and methods of government. Time to vote the bums out.

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rickjump, so does his name bother you? you don't agree that he used Barack Hussein Obama to try and make connections between his name and islam? Does anybody introduce John McCain as John Sidney McCain III?

I mean if you are bothered that the FBI is talking to a guy about using someone's full name then I got it. But Barack Obama has nothing to do with that.

The whole Hussein thing is a little weird since the two most famous Hussein's (Saddam Hussein) and (King Hussein of Jordan) are not really associated as radical Islamists.

I mean who here honestly thinks that having Hussein in his middle name is a threat to the U.S.? I have a friend who's last name is O'Neal, should British people be wary of him being IRA?

I feel it is inappropriate to chastise anyone for saying the full name of a candiate or anyone. How unlucky for a candidate to have a full name with Hitler or Adolph in it, but it GOES WITH THE TERRITORY if you are running for public office. spelling

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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rickjump, so does his name bother you? you don't agree that he used Barack Hussein Obama to try and make connections between his name and islam? Does anybody introduce John McCain as John Sidney McCain III?

I mean if you are bothered that the FBI is talking to a guy about using someone's full name then I got it. But Barack Obama has nothing to do with that.

The whole Hussein thing is a little weird since the two most famous Hussein's (Saddam Hussein) and (King Hussein of Jordan) are not really associated as radical Islamists.

I mean who here honestly thinks that having Hussein in his middle name is a threat to the U.S.? I have a friend who's last name is O'Neal, should British people be wary of him being IRA?

Fuck that - can he get me some cheap t-shirts and board shorts?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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nice dodge, do you have an issue with Barack Hussein Obama's name?

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The connection of the name, Hussein to Islam is a very good one. Are his political fans ashamed of this. Is he ashamed that both of his fathers were of the muslim faith and he attended a muslim school? What's your point. He is a candidate, and he is fair game just like his opponent being connected with nazis.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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umm I think that is O'Neil. lol vortex have you been putting washing your tea down with Scotch again?

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Bugger! That'll teach me from buying my kit from the market - guess I'll stick to Quicksliver or North Farce in the future....

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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The connection of the name, Hussein to Islam is a very good one. Are his political fans ashamed of this. Is he ashamed that both of his fathers were of the muslim faith and he attended a muslim school? What's your point. He is a candidate, and he is fair game just like his opponent being connected with nazis.

I'm leaning towards Obama and there's no shame here
I do agree with your outrage that this incident is under investigation. He said the man's name! - what's wrong with that?

Especially in this supposed age of multiculturalism...

This incident is almost as ridiculous as the idea that some leftists think anytime someone says "Barack Hussein Obama" most people will assume he's Muslim (evil/anti-American?)

C'mon. Hardliners and 'true believers' aren't gonna be swayed by any of this stuff; their minds are already made up. Call me naive but I think most Americans care about actual policy issues, now more than ever.

It's going to be a nasty next few weeks.

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The connection of the name, Hussein to Islam is a very good one. Are his political fans ashamed of this. Is he ashamed that both of his fathers were of the muslim faith and he attended a muslim school? What's your point. He is a candidate, and he is fair game just like his opponent being connected with nazis.

I'm leaning towards Obama and there's no shame here
I do agree with your outrage that this incident is under investigation. He said the man's name! - what's wrong with that?

Especially in this supposed age of multiculturalism...

This incident is almost as ridiculous as the idea that some leftists think anytime someone says "Barack Hussein Obama" most people will assume he's Muslim (evil/anti-American?)

C'mon. Hardliners and 'true believers' aren't gonna be swayed by any of this stuff; their minds are already made up. Call me naive but I think most Americans care about actual policy issues, now more than ever.

It's going to be a nasty next few weeks.

there are some less inteligent voters that can be swayed by this, in a close election it could make a difference.

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most people will assume he's Muslim

not most, but there is a vocal minority here that, still now, believe he is an evil muslim in hidding.

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Nope - he's under investigation for something else altogether:

From the original article:


"The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform."

The suggestion that the problem is using the candidate's name is NOT supported by the article.

Another lame attempt by the right to invent shit.

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Nope - he's under investigation for something else altogether:

From the original article:


"The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform."

The suggestion that the problem is using the candidate's name is NOT supported by the article.

Another lame attempt by the right to invent shit.

Well, he will be shut up forever as he is on duty 24/7.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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Nope - he's under investigation for something else altogether:

From the original article:


"The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform."

The suggestion that the problem is using the candidate's name is NOT supported by the article.

Another lame attempt by the right to invent shit.

Well, he will be shut up forever as he is on duty 24/7.

Does he wear uniform 24/7?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Nope - he's under investigation for something else altogether:

From the original article:


"The NBC station reports that officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel have started an investigation of the Sheriff under the question of "did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act." The basis the Feds are using is whether Scott was campaigning while on duty and in uniform."

The suggestion that the problem is using the candidate's name is NOT supported by the article.

Another lame attempt by the right to invent shit.

Well, he will be shut up forever as he is on duty 24/7.

Does he wear uniform 24/7?

I don't know. Give him a call.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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Every "safety" civil servant in America has a SOP or General order stating that politics and the uniform don't mix.

If one of his employees said the same exact thing while in uniform it would have been a disciplinary offense.

It was a bullshit tactic, everyone knows it was a bullshit tactic, and nothing will come of it.

McCain and Palin are sourdough and wheat, flaming in the toaster.

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The sheriff used poor judgement and was wrong. I agree.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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We have seen many changes in this great nation which have been brought about by left wing activists. As kids, we used to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, it's being attacked in the courts. We used to say a prayer in the morning before school or at football games. Socialists in America have deemed that "offensive" and the practice has all but disappeared.

If you think there is nothing offensive about 'haveing' ot say a prayer. then you are not very well informed.

Whether you are athiest, muslim or anything other than christian for that matter, then it would be offensive.

Use your brain.

There is nothing wrong with calling someone by thier full name, nothing whatsoever.

Unfortunately the amount of meatheads that would get hot flushes when they hear the name 'Hussein' is amazing.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix