To be honest, I'm not really concerned with the candidates' qualifications

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I think McCain is a decent man and I have no problem with his VP choice, but it's time for a change. It's time to win back America.

What bothers me with Obama is that he basically promises everyone who asked everything, which makes me wonder if he's going to do anything at all.

Let's say he does nothing, McSame will continue the onslaught.

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anyway, quite frankly, I'm not all that scared of the terrorists.

I'm glad you're at peace with that, however, they are a true danger to our national security.

I may be saying that because my sister's brother-in-law as well as my cousin's brother-in-law were both killed in the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks. Both men had three children and their wives were pregnant with their 4th. I witnessed first hand the human suffering endured that day at the hand of terrorists.

That's truely sad, but I believe that we are virtually free of airport terrorism. 911 was a bungled, low-scale shot. They had to know they had 1 shot at it until increased security that we now have. If theywere organized theywould have had that operation in every major city in America. Box cutters? Come on, that was such a moltov coctail type operation.

So how can they attack now? Anthrax possibly. I say we build our fences and protect our ports, not sell them to an Arabic nation, as Bush wanted.

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>I may be saying that because my sister's brother-in-law as well as my
>cousin's brother-in-law were both killed in the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks.

A good friend of mine was recently killed in Iraq. Earlier, an old school friend was killed there. Another had a hole blown in his leg; a third one had his leg blown off.

So I have witnessed the suffering that an optional war can cause as well. I have no illusions that the suffering my friends went through 'counteracted' yours; indeed, it simply added to the misery. I pray we elect a president who does not add to it further.

A freidn at work lost his kid 1.5 years ago in the Memorial Day Massacre where 10 GI's died. His assertion, we should have gotten out of there years ago, when Bush said we won. This guy is an Iraq vet himself, a Republican, etc...... he says to get the fuck out.

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I think Obama would be good for the USA on the international scene (far less people around the world will hate America) and anyone would be good by scraping the insane Patriot Act. But Obama has been making an aweful lot of "vote for me and -poof- everything will be magically fixed with the economy" promises. I can't see how Obama can keep his international commitments and come remotely close to fulfilling all his "feel good" social promises. It's as if you guys need someone like Obama internationally, but you need someone with a proven "economic" track record domestically.

But who am I to criticize the US for their political choices. You should see the real winners (barf) up here in Canuckistan.

It took Clinton his 5th year to unfuck the doings of Reagan / Bush, so it will also take Obama that to unfuck the doings of the 3rd neo-con trash, maybe longer s he's been worse. American Republican voters need to look in teh mirror and wonder WTF they're thinking. They voted in the last 3 POS and they want the quad? Geniuses.

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Let's say he does nothing, McSame will continue the onslaught.

Well, if you consider a "change" like rising YOUR taxes twice, you probably would differently on onslaught.

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And this my friends is why she voted for Clinton

Look at the end result of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush and give me an evaluation.

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Let's say he does nothing, McSame will continue the onslaught.

Well, if you consider a "change" like rising YOUR taxes twice, you probably would differently on onslaught.

Oh, like Clinton did with the 1993 Omnibus Spending Bill, he raised taxes immediately, mostly for the rich. So what do you think of Clinton's fiscal success? BTW, Bush has constantly cut taxes.

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Oh, like Clinton did with the 1993 Omnibus Spending Bill, he raised taxes immediately, mostly for the rich. So what do you think of Clinton's fiscal success?

I'm more concerned about my own financial success.
That's why I would not vote for Obama.

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Lucky,

Please understand very clearly that I will not respond to any issue you raise until you learn to be respectful, use peoples proper names, have respect for other people and their right to their views. Stop your attacks and name calling and stop belittling people. Your hostility has been clearly noted by several people here and you chose to continue to be abusive.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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Oh, like Clinton did with the 1993 Omnibus Spending Bill, he raised taxes immediately, mostly for the rich. So what do you think of Clinton's fiscal success?

I'm more concerned about my own financial success.
That's why I would not vote for Obama.

And how were people's individual financial success under Clinton as compared to other neo-con times? Right, you just shot your own argument.

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Lucky,

Please understand very clearly that I will not respond to any issue you raise until you learn to be respectful, use peoples proper names, have respect for other people and their right to their views. Stop your attacks and name calling and stop belittling people. Your hostility has been clearly noted by several people here and you chose to continue to be abusive.

In other words, you have no answer. I don't attack people here, perhaps your guy, McSame, but until he becomes a member here I think he is within limits.

Noted, you have no answer.

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And how were people's individual financial success under Clinton as compared to other neo-con times? Right, you just shot your own argument.

Please do not put your words in my mouth. I'm doing really fine, and definitely don't need any change.

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Yes, I did. You grew old and fearful. You chose the past, I choose hope for our future.

My bad, I guess instead of asking if you read what I wrote I should have written if you understood what I wrote. Please read the highlighted parts below, I AM talking about the future, that of my kids and grandkids!!!

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Then you are not for either party, right? I blame both the horrid Bush administration and the inept democratic controlled congress. To me, both parties are responsible and could have guided us in a better direction. Both parties promised “change” and both failed. If you want to get down to it, “political parties” did not damage America, people did.

I have been a lifelong registered democrat but as you get older sometimes you views change. I am not looking at which party will give me hope anymore, but which people will. “Change”, ah yes, the almighty hope……………..but is it? Change in and of its self is not always good. The question is what do we need to change, polices, people, parties or do we just need to start to use what is already there and not being used?

For me, this election comes down to trust, which person I trust with my children and grandchildren’s future. All the other issues are less important to me. Both candidates have slung the mud and made promises that cannot be kept (that is why they call them politicians).

The bottom line is I do not trust Obama, he scares the hell out of me. I don’t like McCain’s economics but he makes me feel safe at night when I am putting my granddaughter to bed. He has stood guard and protected our freedoms in the past and I trust that he will always do so. In this case I have to take wisdom and experience over youth and enthusiasm.

Also, I did not grow fearful because of getting old, I am fearful of one person that wants to lead our country for the next four years. The reference to getting older was only to express that as you do so, you usually gain life experiences and some form of wisdom (so I hear) that sometimes gives you more insight as to what is and could happen in the future.

I fully support and respect your right to choose too. You do know that you can respect someone’s views without agreeing with them don’t you? Disrespect is never good and generally shows poor character, but then it is one of those things in life that you either have it or you don’t.

Stay safe and be well,
Mike

Let me clarify. I respect you right to choose but let there be no doubt, I do not respect a choice that continues to fuck what my country once stood for. How does voting for war that cost trillions of dollars and countless lives, combined with the continued degradation of our constitution make life better for your grandchildren?

If I did not respect someone who molested your granddaughters, that would be a bad thing and poor character on my part?

What is there about Obama that scares you so much you want you granddaughters to inherit deeper debt and a country moving closer to a police state?

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And how were people's individual financial success under Clinton as compared to other neo-con times? Right, you just shot your own argument.

Please do not put your words in my mouth. I'm doing really fine, and definitely don't need any change.

Where did I put words in your mouth? Also, does it worry you that we are 10T in debt and that is the doing of the right? I could list all of the woes of the country for you to ignore, bit waste my time? So you think the country is doing great, no need for change? Cool, You're a McSame guy then.

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Mike won't be addressing people with potty-talk, he needs to be nurtured and spoken to with kind words.

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And this my friends is why she voted for Clinton

Look at the end result of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush and give me an evaluation.

That one is easy. But I am not surprised my socialist friend you see it otherwise

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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What is there about Obama that scares you so much you want you granddaughters to inherit deeper debt and a country moving closer to a police state?

To me, Obama lacks any credible executive leadership. As a senator and a former legislator he developed policy, he did not enforce it or have to make high pressure time critical decisions. I don’t feel that overseeing his congressional staff, college interns or chairing some committees qualifies him to be commander in chief. I am sure in the future he will make a great leader but not now.

As far as getting deeper in debt or moving to a police state we do have a democratically controlled congress that can change that so that does not concern me so much.

As for the rest we will just have to agree to disagree and hope that what ever the outcome, things get better.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

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For me, this election comes down to trust, which person I trust with my children and grandchildren’s future. All the other issues are less important to me.

If you look at things like conservation, environmental protection, and budget deficit management, the DNC trumps the GOP by a wide margin in the forward-looking department. It appears to me that the GOP isn't concerned in the least about your children and grandchildren's future. They're all about exploiting that future in exchange for any and every convenience they can enjoy in the present day.

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If you look at things like conservation, environmental protection, and budget deficit management, the DNC trumps the GOP by a wide margin in the forward-looking department.

I agree and as I stated in previous posts I don't like McCain's economics but then as I also stated we do have the democrats controlling congress so the issues that you listed above are covered.

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It appears to me that the GOP isn't concerned in the least about your children and grandchildren's future. They're all about exploiting that future in exchange for any and every convenience they can enjoy in the present day.

I don't agree. When I was speaking of my children and grandchildren's future I was talking about their safety and that is my problem with Obama, I just don’t feel safe with him as commander and chief. Just as the democrats have their strengths as you listed above I feel the republicans are stronger as far as national security. I also think that we have a check and balance of power when we have a president from one party and a controlled congress from the other.

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If you look at things like conservation, environmental protection, and budget deficit management, the DNC trumps the GOP by a wide margin in the forward-looking department.

I agree and as I stated in previous posts I don't like McCain's economics but then as I also stated we do have the democrats controlling congress so the issues that you listed above are covered.

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It appears to me that the GOP isn't concerned in the least about your children and grandchildren's future. They're all about exploiting that future in exchange for any and every convenience they can enjoy in the present day.

I don't agree. When I was speaking of my children and grandchildren's future I was talking about their safety and that is my problem with Obama, I just don’t feel safe with him as commander and chief. Just as the democrats have their strengths as you listed above I feel the republicans are stronger as far as national security. I also think that we have a check and balance of power when we have a president from one party and a controlled congress from the other.

GOP economics are rapidly moving the country towards bankruptcy, at which point we'll be owned by China and won't be able to afford a military anyway. Have you bothered to find out what debts (federal and trade) your GOP heroes are leaving for your kids and their kids? Do you know how much US debt is held by China?

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What is there about Obama that scares you so much you want you granddaughters to inherit deeper debt and a country moving closer to a police state?

To me, Obama lacks any credible executive leadership. As a senator and a former legislator he developed policy, he did not enforce it or have to make high pressure time critical decisions. I don’t feel that overseeing his congressional staff, college interns or chairing some committees qualifies him to be commander in chief. I am sure in the future he will make a great leader but not now.

As far as getting deeper in debt or moving to a police state we do have a democratically controlled congress that can change that so that does not concern me so much.

As for the rest we will just have to agree to disagree and hope that what ever the outcome, things get better.

Would it be fair to sum up your view as 'thank you sir, may I have another?"

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"To be honest?" Does that mean you are bs'ing us the rest of the time?

I agree. WHat does experience in politics begest? A conviction.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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"To be honest?" Does that mean you are bs'ing us the rest of the time?

I agree. WHat does experience in politics begest? A conviction.

An indictment or two, anyway....

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