Loonix 0 #1 March 3, 2007 New York-based Valley Entertainment has been blacklisted by the Bush administration for distributing a CD titled "Lullabies from the axis of evil". On this CD, women from Iran, Iraq, Palestina, Syria, Afghanistan, North-Korea and Cuba sings lullabies in duet with western artists. The only reference I could find on it is in norwegian, for those who are compatible... http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/kultur/1.1963936 So... What on earth is the deal with THAT?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #2 March 3, 2007 How do you expect us to respond without knowing what the story is about. What do you mean by blacklisted? Many people think that criticizing something is the same as censorship, which I think is bullshit. Why would anyone have a problem with a lullaby? You have to at least give us a hint of what is objectionable and what you mean by 'blacklisting'.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonix 0 #3 March 3, 2007 QuoteHow do you expect us to respond without knowing what the story is about. There isn't much in the various articles I read on it, I basically wrote all there was, except... Quote What do you mean by blacklisted? Many people think that criticizing something is the same as censorship, which I think is bullshit. Well, it is written quite vague in the article as well, but this company is on a list that "the bush administration will not cooperate with". I guess my point is that they are actually taking the time to do this with a cd containing lullabies. Quote Why would anyone have a problem with a lullaby? You have to at least give us a hint of what is objectionable and what you mean by 'blacklisting'. Yes, why would anyone have a problem with that? some background... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62937-2004Oct25?language=printer http://www.theage.com.au/news/Music/Quiet-voices-of-reason-put-peace-on-track/2005/01/28/1106415746461.html or google. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #4 March 3, 2007 QuoteNew York-based Valley Entertainment has been blacklisted by the Bush administration for ... Blacklisted? What does this mean? The whitehouse staff will no longer purchase their CDs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonix 0 #5 March 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteNew York-based Valley Entertainment has been blacklisted by the Bush administration for ... Blacklisted? What does this mean? The whitehouse staff will no longer purchase their CDs? Try reading my second post. For what it's worth, it means this record company will not recieve any state cultural funding. But the more important part, I'd say, is the impact of having the government work against you. Now, dorbie, to the point, since you clearly missed it: The Bush administration takes the time to work against a record company for releasing a CD, simply because it is critical to their war. Don't you have a problem with that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #6 March 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteNew York-based Valley Entertainment has been blacklisted by the Bush administration for ... Blacklisted? What does this mean? The whitehouse staff will no longer purchase their CDs? Try reading my second post. For what it's worth, it means this record company will not recieve any state cultural funding. But the more important part, I'd say, is the impact of having the government work against you. Now, dorbie, to the point, since you clearly missed it: The Bush administration takes the time to work against a record company for releasing a CD, simply because it is critical to their war. Don't you have a problem with that? I certainly hope they don't receive any "state cultural funding". Exactly how is the government "taking the time to work against (them)"?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonix 0 #7 March 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNew York-based Valley Entertainment has been blacklisted by the Bush administration for ... Blacklisted? What does this mean? The whitehouse staff will no longer purchase their CDs? Try reading my second post. For what it's worth, it means this record company will not recieve any state cultural funding. But the more important part, I'd say, is the impact of having the government work against you. Now, dorbie, to the point, since you clearly missed it: The Bush administration takes the time to work against a record company for releasing a CD, simply because it is critical to their war. Don't you have a problem with that? I certainly hope they don't receive any "state cultural funding". Even if other companies like them does recieve such funding? Quote Exactly how is the government "taking the time to work against (them)"? By officially blacklisting them. You are evading the point as well. Do you or do you not have a problem with the government interfering like this? This CD, promoting peace, is obviosuly seen as some sort of threat. You don't think this "blacklisting" means anything at all, is that it? Perhaps you think random blacklisting of music is common, and should be accepted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #8 March 3, 2007 Loonix, I think what people are asking is, what form does this "blacklisting" take? What form does "refusing to cooperate with them" take? Simply saying the at the WH is blacklisting them by...blacklisting them is not an answer. We need specifics, please, so that we may evaluate the story. If I was helping one of my teenage kids with a term paper and the writing had this lack of clarity, I wouldn't let them turn it in. If I was the teacher, I'd give it a "D". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #9 March 3, 2007 QuoteBy officially blacklisting them. What the hell is an official blacklist? Where do I find this list? At http://blacklist.gov? What's the effect of this list? Am I prohibited from listening to anything on the list? Is it a felony or just a misdemeanor? QuoteDo you or do you not have a problem with the government interfering like this? This CD, promoting peace, is obviosuly seen as some sort of threat. You don't think this "blacklisting" means anything at all, is that it? Perhaps you think random blacklisting of music is common, and should be accepted? We don't have a clue what you're talking about! What does "blacklisting" mean? We can't think anything pro or con about it until you tell us what it is! Jeez! This thread is reading like something posted by warpedskydiver. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #10 March 3, 2007 QuoteJeez! This thread is reading like something posted by warpedskydiver. He's going to shoot the record execs?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #11 March 3, 2007 QuoteEven if other companies like them does recieve such funding? From what source are such similar companies receiving funding? Is it the National Endowment for the Arts or what? I would support a decision to NOT fund with taxpayer dollars this type of art. Similar to the 'blaclisting' comments of others, we can't comment usefully without more information.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
