jakee 1,260 #251 December 14, 2006 Quote Satan can do nothing without God's permission, and in the end, wherever we wind up is to the Glory of God. Well shit, now you've just gone and stolen my thunder! So why does god want to trick us? I could just about deal with him giving us free will to chooose evil, but why would he create Satan to actively lead us away from him? What is the justification for Satan being permitted to condemn those who would otherwise be allowed into heaven?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #252 December 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteIn labs, within 20 generations, they have turned wild foxes into domesticated, floppy-eared pets.You can bet it wasn't done without human meddling. Fox on fox produces fox. Why do you have an appendix that serves no purpose but exposes you to a potentially fatal condition? Why do you have a tailbone? Why did an omnipotent god recycle so many chimpanzee genes into humans? Why do snakes have vestigial femurs? Why do whales have vestigial foot bones? Why do embryonic cave fish have eyes?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #253 December 14, 2006 Quote>However, regardless of whether they've got pointed or floppy ears... >they're still just foxes. Flying foxes (australia) have wings, and they fly about. Are they still just foxes? Some squirrels in the US are evolving wings so they can glide from tree to tree. They may still perhaps be "just squirrels" but they are their own species, and have evolved a whole new structure (a wing) from what they already had (skin.) Which is how evolution works. Rodents in Africa (Anomaluridae) are evolving wings in a slightly different way - they use a simple cartilaginous rod to extend their wings, so the flight membrane can connect at the elbow instead of the hands/feet (thus giving them more mobility.) In a million years, that rod may well be a piece of bone that allows them to glide very long distances, gain altitude and retract their wings when not in use. In a very real way, they will still be "just rats" - but these rats will fly. This is interesting.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #254 December 14, 2006 Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That doesn't make it any more credible. The quality of the writing has nothing to do with the intelectual content. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's BS. Can you spell intellectual? Proper spelling, punctuation, and sentence formation doesn't just happen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteYou can't come up with anything better then a comment on my typo? The ability to put something in writing so that it can be understood by others speaks to one's intellect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #255 December 14, 2006 QuoteQuote Satan can do nothing without God's permission, and in the end, wherever we wind up is to the Glory of God. Well shit, now you've just gone and stolen my thunder! So why does god want to trick us? I could just about deal with him giving us free will to chooose evil, but why would he create Satan to actively lead us away from him? What is the justification for Satan being permitted to condemn those who would otherwise be allowed into heaven?[/reply We are not in a position to guess God's intentions.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites br0k3n 0 #256 December 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Quote I’m only trying inspire someone out here and start a thought process that if all goes well go a little further than us being here for no reason at all. Ok heres a thought process to get you started…. The marsupial population of Australia contains animal families, genera, and species found nowhere else on earth - not even in fossil form. We are to suppose that each species of marsupial managed to get from Mt. Ararat to Australia, but couldn't find its way to any other part of the world - including those regions located between Turkey and Australia. Despite the fact that most marsupial species seem to be out-gunned when they are forced to compete with placental mammals (hence the extinction of so many marsupial species after the introduction of European mammals), we are to suppose that wombats and wallabies, bandicoots and koalas, kept ahead of lions-'n-tigers-'n-bears all the way to Indonesia, and then - although the superior placental predators couldn't manage it - continued on to Australia. As if this were not mind-boggling enough, after all this implausible world travel, and after all the dust had settled, it turns out that the types of marsupials that made it to Australia just happened to form an ensemble able to fill all the ecological niches available! HELLO Skysaint old boy, care to comment.....care to attempt to refute what I have to say... or as with all religious types are you opting for the ignore the facts and hope they will go away option?? http://evolution.mbdojo.com/flood.html Thanks But no thanks, I guess I foolishly thought that you were capable of refuting this yourself. However you seem to only have th ability to post a clickly to some pro creationist site, that really dont have any inclination to read... Are you or are you not able to refute ???----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites beowulf 1 #257 December 14, 2006 Oh ok, so I am a dumb ass since I happened to have made typo. That speaks to your intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,651 #258 December 14, 2006 QuoteReply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That doesn't make it any more credible. The quality of the writing has nothing to do with the intelectual content. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's BS. Can you spell intellectual? Proper spelling, punctuation, and sentence formation doesn't just happen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteYou can't come up with anything better then a comment on my typo? The ability to put something in writing so that it can be understood by others speaks to one's intellect. I warned you! Irony score 10/10... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,435 #259 December 14, 2006 Uh, skysaint - you just posted something that shows that there WAS no Noah's Ark, and that the lack thereof compromises the whole story of Genesis. Their conclusion - "The whole story reeks of inconsistency and irrationality." Which may well be, but I'm suprised to see you agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unformed 0 #260 December 14, 2006 QuoteUh, skysaint - you just posted something that shows that there WAS no Noah's Ark, and that the lack thereof compromises the whole story of Genesis. Their conclusion - "The whole story reeks of inconsistency and irrationality." Which may well be, but I'm suprised to see you agree. (Pssst.... I think he was trolling the whole time. And a did a damn good job it too if I might say so myself.... )This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #261 December 14, 2006 QuoteJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean a supernatural being is responsible. You would like to think that excuzo If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #262 December 14, 2006 QuoteFor some of us, evolutionary theory does not diminish, but in fact STRENGTHENS our belief in God. I have a hard time understanding people who believe that if scientifically-describable mechanisms are present, then God must be absent. What is so heretical about the idea that God created a system that actually works? God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth - some animals and plants adapted over time. - but bottom line your forefather were no soup tjom and until proven by science our children should not be fed satan's weak sugar coated unproven stoopid theory that evolution is. What is the big fuss about anyway , science has not PROVEN evolution so why the big hype - evolution is your excuse and god...it's a shame "... our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Ephesians 6:12If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,435 #263 December 14, 2006 >God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth . . . Did he create cattle before or after he created man? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #264 December 14, 2006 Quote>God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth . . . Did he create cattle before or after he created man? Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man , man did not evolve from moo to manIf at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,435 #265 December 14, 2006 >Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man . . . Nope, sorry, the bible says otherwise. From Genesis 2: ---------------- Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. ---------------- I'm afraid we can't have you teaching untruths to our children that the bible itself contradicts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #266 December 14, 2006 Quote>Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man . . . Nope, sorry, the bible says otherwise. From Genesis 2: ---------------- Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. ---------------- I'm afraid we can't have you teaching untruths to our children that the bible itself contradicts! Your interpretation not mine.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,435 #267 December 14, 2006 >Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #268 December 14, 2006 Quote>Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) Like i said before - you are looking for an excuse....there is no conflict about these two creation stories. The first story is an outline of the creation of all things, while the second story focuses on the details of the creation of mankind...this might seem to you like a contradiction but it's because of your interpretation.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #269 December 14, 2006 <> You state that, like it's a proven fact. On you go then, show us your proof, please. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #270 December 14, 2006 << Proper spelling, punctuation, and sentence formation doesn't just happen. >> Correct. It evolved (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #271 December 14, 2006 Quote<> You state that, like it's a proven fact. On you go then, show us your proof, please. . Do you want the Royco or Maggi version If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #272 December 14, 2006 <> To me, this is clearly a control mechanism. It seems to be designed to keep the common man in a state of ignorance (un-schooled, without knowledge etc..) so that the ruling classes (Law/Bible writters) can keep overall control of the masses. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #273 December 14, 2006 Quote>Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) ... the animals were created first, in Gen. 2;18-20 God is telling us that He created man and was making him a helper for him, then He was telling us that He HAD formed the animals out of the ground. and He gave Adam the job of naming the animals. but the word you need to look at is HAD, this is past tense.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #274 December 14, 2006 Sorry... I dont understand (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysaintj 0 #275 December 14, 2006 Quote<> To me, this is clearly a control mechanism. It seems to be designed to keep the common man in a state of ignorance (un-schooled, without knowledge etc..) so that the ruling classes (Law/Bible writters) can keep overall control of the masses. . You only try and limit God in your own mind if you try and figure out why why why why why...the only way you'll find out why is to except his love ...ask any christian - the more you grow with God the more He reveals Himself and his plans to you... “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. 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br0k3n 0 #256 December 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Quote I’m only trying inspire someone out here and start a thought process that if all goes well go a little further than us being here for no reason at all. Ok heres a thought process to get you started…. The marsupial population of Australia contains animal families, genera, and species found nowhere else on earth - not even in fossil form. We are to suppose that each species of marsupial managed to get from Mt. Ararat to Australia, but couldn't find its way to any other part of the world - including those regions located between Turkey and Australia. Despite the fact that most marsupial species seem to be out-gunned when they are forced to compete with placental mammals (hence the extinction of so many marsupial species after the introduction of European mammals), we are to suppose that wombats and wallabies, bandicoots and koalas, kept ahead of lions-'n-tigers-'n-bears all the way to Indonesia, and then - although the superior placental predators couldn't manage it - continued on to Australia. As if this were not mind-boggling enough, after all this implausible world travel, and after all the dust had settled, it turns out that the types of marsupials that made it to Australia just happened to form an ensemble able to fill all the ecological niches available! HELLO Skysaint old boy, care to comment.....care to attempt to refute what I have to say... or as with all religious types are you opting for the ignore the facts and hope they will go away option?? http://evolution.mbdojo.com/flood.html Thanks But no thanks, I guess I foolishly thought that you were capable of refuting this yourself. However you seem to only have th ability to post a clickly to some pro creationist site, that really dont have any inclination to read... Are you or are you not able to refute ???----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #257 December 14, 2006 Oh ok, so I am a dumb ass since I happened to have made typo. That speaks to your intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,651 #258 December 14, 2006 QuoteReply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That doesn't make it any more credible. The quality of the writing has nothing to do with the intelectual content. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's BS. Can you spell intellectual? Proper spelling, punctuation, and sentence formation doesn't just happen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteYou can't come up with anything better then a comment on my typo? The ability to put something in writing so that it can be understood by others speaks to one's intellect. I warned you! Irony score 10/10... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #259 December 14, 2006 Uh, skysaint - you just posted something that shows that there WAS no Noah's Ark, and that the lack thereof compromises the whole story of Genesis. Their conclusion - "The whole story reeks of inconsistency and irrationality." Which may well be, but I'm suprised to see you agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #260 December 14, 2006 QuoteUh, skysaint - you just posted something that shows that there WAS no Noah's Ark, and that the lack thereof compromises the whole story of Genesis. Their conclusion - "The whole story reeks of inconsistency and irrationality." Which may well be, but I'm suprised to see you agree. (Pssst.... I think he was trolling the whole time. And a did a damn good job it too if I might say so myself.... )This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #261 December 14, 2006 QuoteJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean a supernatural being is responsible. You would like to think that excuzo If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #262 December 14, 2006 QuoteFor some of us, evolutionary theory does not diminish, but in fact STRENGTHENS our belief in God. I have a hard time understanding people who believe that if scientifically-describable mechanisms are present, then God must be absent. What is so heretical about the idea that God created a system that actually works? God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth - some animals and plants adapted over time. - but bottom line your forefather were no soup tjom and until proven by science our children should not be fed satan's weak sugar coated unproven stoopid theory that evolution is. What is the big fuss about anyway , science has not PROVEN evolution so why the big hype - evolution is your excuse and god...it's a shame "... our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Ephesians 6:12If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #263 December 14, 2006 >God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth . . . Did he create cattle before or after he created man? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #264 December 14, 2006 Quote>God made put everything in place as it is in the 6 days he created the earth . . . Did he create cattle before or after he created man? Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man , man did not evolve from moo to manIf at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #265 December 14, 2006 >Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man . . . Nope, sorry, the bible says otherwise. From Genesis 2: ---------------- Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. ---------------- I'm afraid we can't have you teaching untruths to our children that the bible itself contradicts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #266 December 14, 2006 Quote>Animals and everything that goes with that first of course , and then created man . . . Nope, sorry, the bible says otherwise. From Genesis 2: ---------------- Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. ---------------- I'm afraid we can't have you teaching untruths to our children that the bible itself contradicts! Your interpretation not mine.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #267 December 14, 2006 >Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #268 December 14, 2006 Quote>Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) Like i said before - you are looking for an excuse....there is no conflict about these two creation stories. The first story is an outline of the creation of all things, while the second story focuses on the details of the creation of mankind...this might seem to you like a contradiction but it's because of your interpretation.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #269 December 14, 2006 <> You state that, like it's a proven fact. On you go then, show us your proof, please. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #270 December 14, 2006 << Proper spelling, punctuation, and sentence formation doesn't just happen. >> Correct. It evolved (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #271 December 14, 2006 Quote<> You state that, like it's a proven fact. On you go then, show us your proof, please. . Do you want the Royco or Maggi version If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #272 December 14, 2006 <> To me, this is clearly a control mechanism. It seems to be designed to keep the common man in a state of ignorance (un-schooled, without knowledge etc..) so that the ruling classes (Law/Bible writters) can keep overall control of the masses. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #273 December 14, 2006 Quote>Your interpretation not mine. Uh, no interpretation involved. Man first, then every beast of the field, right there in black and white on the pages of the New King James Bible. While you may have your own beliefs on the subject, they are different than the bible's. So evolutionary science is all wrong and can't be taught. But creationism should be? Which one? Yours? The bible's? (cause they ain't the same.) The koran's? How about the egyptian myth? Or the norse one? They're all equivalent scientifically (i.e. not at all.) Here's an idea - teach them all in a religion class. Then teach science in a science class. Simple and solves the problem completely. (Unless, of course, your goal is to "destroy materialist science" or something, which is what many ID proponents want.) ... the animals were created first, in Gen. 2;18-20 God is telling us that He created man and was making him a helper for him, then He was telling us that He HAD formed the animals out of the ground. and He gave Adam the job of naming the animals. but the word you need to look at is HAD, this is past tense.If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #274 December 14, 2006 Sorry... I dont understand (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #275 December 14, 2006 Quote<> To me, this is clearly a control mechanism. It seems to be designed to keep the common man in a state of ignorance (un-schooled, without knowledge etc..) so that the ruling classes (Law/Bible writters) can keep overall control of the masses. . You only try and limit God in your own mind if you try and figure out why why why why why...the only way you'll find out why is to except his love ...ask any christian - the more you grow with God the more He reveals Himself and his plans to you... “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.” - EinsteinIf at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
