pop 0 #1 February 28, 2006 The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000 (thats 1 billion, 200 million people) or 20% of the world population. They received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1957 - Albert Camus 1988 - Najib Mahfooz (Actually, Camus was not a Muslim but a Frenchman from North Africa(a pied noir, so to speak) Peace: 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat 1994 - Yaser Arafat Physics: 1990 - Elias James Corey 1999 - Ahmed Zewail Medicine: 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar 1998 - Ferid Mourad The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 (thats 14 million people) or about 0.02% of the world population. They received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson 1958 - Boris Pasternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World Peace: 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin Chemistry: 1905 - Adolph! Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1943 - George Charles DE Hevesy 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz< FONT face=Verdana size=2> 1972 - William Howard Stein 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Roald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 - Robert Huber 1989 - Sidney Altman 1992 - Rudolph Marcus 2000 - Alan J. Heeger Economics: 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Milton Friedman 1978 - Herbert A. Simon 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Markowitz 1990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Robert Fogel Medicine: 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich! 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jacob 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Mars! hall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald ! Maurice Edelman 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1995 - Edwrd B. Lewis Physics: 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1952 - Felix Bloch 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Donald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1973 - Brian David Josephson 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1995 - Martin Perl7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulshine 0 #2 February 28, 2006 Where did you get your statistics? Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity! ~DEVIOUS BEEF~~FGF #69~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #3 February 28, 2006 QuoteWhere did you get your statistics? This link from Wikipedia bears out his statistics. Actually, it puts Islam at 1.3 billion, and confirms Judaism at 14 million. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_world_religions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #4 February 28, 2006 I would assume this is because many more Muslims live in poverty and without access to education.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #5 February 28, 2006 Nobel Prize winners Try this. Doesn't specify nationality or religion. Going by Pop's list it would seem academic achievement tends to be more of a priority in Jewish culture... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #6 February 28, 2006 QuoteGoing by Pop's list it would seem academic achievement tends to be more of a priority in Jewish culture... Or perhaps education is more available?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #7 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteGoing by Pop's list it would seem academic achievement tends to be more of a priority in Jewish culture... Or perhaps education is more available? Education is not a natural resource. If it were a higher priority, I think a nation of $1.3 billion people with access to a LOT of natural resources could come up with a couple more schools. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #8 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteGoing by Pop's list it would seem academic achievement tends to be more of a priority in Jewish culture... Or perhaps education is more available? Education is not a natural resource. If it were a higher priority, I think a nation of $1.3 billion people with access to a LOT of natural resources could come up with a couple more schools. A nation? As in one nation? All 1.3 billion don't live in the same country. Nor are they dollar muslims either. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 February 28, 2006 Could it be that more ethnic "Europeans" - Those who live within the Euro-American world - Are nominated to what amounts to a "Euro-American" awards body? If you speak "The Language", then you're going to do better in tests which use that language. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #10 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGoing by Pop's list it would seem academic achievement tends to be more of a priority in Jewish culture... Or perhaps education is more available? Education is not a natural resource. If it were a higher priority, I think a nation of $1.3 billion people with access to a LOT of natural resources could come up with a couple more schools. A nation? As in one nation? All 1.3 billion don't live in the same country. Nor are they dollar muslims either. I know. I mean the nation of Islam, and its culture. My point is that I believe cultural differences are the reason for the disparity, not necessarily resources. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #11 February 28, 2006 QuoteCould it be that more ethnic "Europeans" - Those who live within the Euro-American world - Are nominated to what amounts to a "Euro-American" awards body? If you speak "The Language", then you're going to do better in tests which use that language. Mike. While I agree that there's probably some ethno/geo centrism going on with the awards body, you don't get a nobel prize for taking a test. Advancements in chemistry for the good of mankind or a piece of soul-stirring literature can be created in any language. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #12 February 28, 2006 QuoteA nation? As in one nation? All 1.3 billion don't live in the same country. Not all 14 million Jews live in the same location. Only 6.25 million live in israel7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 February 28, 2006 Quote I know. I mean the nation of Islam, and its culture. My point is that I believe cultural differences are the reason for the disparity, not necessarily resources. It is partially culture, but the statement of "a nation with 1.3 billion people" is misleading and implies some sort of unified monetary source for gaining education. But no such mechanism exists. I think it has less to do with overall Islamic culture and more to do with the Islamic influenced governments. A fine line but a valid distinction.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #14 February 28, 2006 Why is that the oldest of the 3 religions Judaism have the least amount of members?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #15 February 28, 2006 QuoteWhy is that the oldest of the 3 religions Judaism have the least amount of members? A historically interesting question, but not really the subject of this thread. Anyhow, the Holocaust reduced their numbers by about 6 million, and then project from that the potential children (and grandchildren, etc.) who were never born because their potential parents (or grandparents, etc.) died prematurely. Daruis and Pop - I hope neither of you will try to imply that one religion, or its people, are more or less valid as a religion or as people. That would be an unfortunate direction for a discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #16 February 28, 2006 QuoteWhile I agree that there's probably some ethno/geo centrism going on with the awards body, you don't get a nobel prize for taking a test. Advancements in chemistry for the good of mankind or a piece of soul-stirring literature can be created in any language. Perhaps a better way of putting it would be: "If you live in and are familiar with a culture then you are more likely to thrive in that culture"? The Nobel Awards are administered by Euro-Americans. It's a Euro-American system based on "First-World" standards of achievement. Hence: http://www.aneki.com/nobel.html http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/Nobels.html http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-nobel-prize-winners-map.html In effect, to be awarded a "Nobel", you must first be nominated and then judged according to The Nobel Committee's standards. Mike. PS: Then of course... "There's Lies... Damned Lies... And Statistics!" Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #17 February 28, 2006 QuoteDaruis and Pop - I hope neither of you will try to imply that one religion, or its people, are more or less valid as a religion or as people. That would be an unfortunate direction for a discussion. Nope....just putting one fact out there, seeing a reaction to it, and instigating conversation. Notice....I have not stated my opinion ones in here, though I have no problem sharing it 7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #18 February 28, 2006 I am not arguing about witch race is better I think there is good and bad every where. I am however not blind to the purpose of this thread. I am Muslim I don’t believe I am better then any one because of my religion. I do try to do things to make me a better person. We don’t believe that we and only we are the chosen people. That’s not a Muslim thing. It also makes a difference who is handing out the awards? Where do African Americans come in on your scale? Is their poverty and lack of higher education because there stupid is it genetic!!!!!!? or the lake of opportunity they are given? I think it is the lack of opportunity.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 February 28, 2006 QuoteWhy is that the oldest of the 3 religions Judaism have the least amount of members? because Muslims, Christians, and Jews primarily were once all the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #20 February 28, 2006 QuoteEducation is not a natural resource. If it were a higher priority, I think a nation of $1.3 billion people with access to a LOT of natural resources could come up with a couple more schools. Women make up about .5% of the winners. Do you think, as a whole, that this is because men place more value on education?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #21 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhy is that the oldest of the 3 religions Judaism have the least amount of members? because Muslims, Christians, and Jews primarily were once all the same dude that makes no since. If you have been around a 1000 years longer you should have more people.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #22 February 28, 2006 The difference could be attributed to literacy and the percentage of the respective populations the are educated and to what extent.growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #23 February 28, 2006 Quotedude that makes no since. If you have been around a 1000 years longer you should have more people. Only if you have enough resources to feed more people. Suffering and extermination attempts don't help either. The size of the original group would also matter, etc.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy is that the oldest of the 3 religions Judaism have the least amount of members? because Muslims, Christians, and Jews primarily were once all the same dude that makes no since. If you have been around a 1000 years longer you should have more people. ummmm Darius?....wake up!!!! CONVERSION!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #25 February 28, 2006 Oh yea thats a good point i need to go back to sleep.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
