Scoop 0 #1 February 8, 2006 It appears that since the introduction of licencees able to apply for 24 hour drinking licences there has been an impressive reduction in related violent offences. Surprised no-ones already brought this up. But then it doesnt really support the argument why we should all be armed QuoteDRINK LAW CRIME FALL VIOLENT crime has fallen by more than a fifth since 24-hour drinking came in, figures show. Serious violent offences were down 21 per cent in the last three months of 2005 compared to 2004. Woundings fell 14 per cent and overall violent crime dropped 11 per cent. Licensing minister James Purnell said: "The predictions that reform would lead to an immediate upsurge in crime haven't been borne out. "It was always our argument that by getting rid of the firm 11pm closing time you would also get rid of a number of flashpoints. It is early days but we will monitor the situation closely." From... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16679122&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=drink-law-crime-fall--name_page.html ...amongst other sources Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBounce 0 #2 February 8, 2006 That's because now the pubs are open longer, everyone's too pissed to be able to hit which ever one of the three people they can see standing in front of them. Gavin Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. If you don't take it out and use it, its going to rust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #3 February 8, 2006 QuoteThat's because now the pubs are open longer, everyone's too pissed to be able to hit which ever one of the three people they can see standing in front of them. I like those odds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #4 February 9, 2006 Maybe with the Brits able to be falling-down drunk 24/7 now, fewer of them are able to be violent because they are...simply... passed out! My big problem with British law these days is that the society seems to be falling all over itself to figure out how to appease criminals out of committing crimes, when I feel that the law should be the law, and if you don't abide by it, you go to jail. None of this ass-kissing and giving-away-the-store just to try to get them to willingly go along with the law. You are supposed to be obliged to go along with the law. You guys are just coddling wrongdoers. It may seem to work for the short term. But at what cost later? The first time you give your lunch money to the bully, he lets go of the arm he has twisted behind your back. But then he knows he has you, and he comes back for more money and you'll pay. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
altichick 0 #5 February 9, 2006 And more importantly... when I'm next in the UK.... can I look forward a shorter line at the kebab van and the taxi rank whenever I stagger out of the pub?? instead of the crazy 11pm rush! Don't sweat the petty things... and don't pet the sweaty things! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adriandavies 0 #6 February 9, 2006 That is the first time I have ever agreed with what Mr Peaceful has ever written on these pages! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #7 February 9, 2006 QuoteAnd more importantly... when I'm next in the UK.... can I look forward a shorter line at the kebab van and the taxi rank whenever I stagger out of the pub?? instead of the crazy 11pm rush! Yes... yes you can! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #8 February 9, 2006 Drink law success claim attacked Anyone can massage figures, and there is no way you can glean accurate data from a law that only came into force 2 months ago, and one that has hardly had any serious take up as of yet (most places are not even offering extrended drinking hours, let alone 24 hour drinking). Money has been thrown at binge drinking precisely when the law came into effect - let's see what happens when the effect of that has run dry. There is no way in the world the binge and excessive drinking culture of the great British public is suddenly going to be miraculously eradicated through the implementation of extended hours drinking. It will take years to assess and see whether the law has any sort of change - positive or negative - and is not something you can even begin to assess in such a short time frame. There needs to be a much needed cultural overhaul in this country before we can start to see any improvement in after-drinks behaviour for most. Quite how that is brought about is anyones guess. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #9 February 9, 2006 12pm rush if your north of the border! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #10 February 9, 2006 Well I'm pleased to say we have noticed very boring Friday/Saturday night shifts compared to what we had before. So that cant be bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #11 February 9, 2006 Quote12pm rush if your north of the border! Strictly speaking it's still an 11pm rush everywhere in the UK. BUT... Individual pubs can apply for what's called "Regular-Extensions" to their licensing hours, which are looked at on a case-by-case basis. Most pubs seem to go for midnight or 1am, a few go for 2.30am. The odd one goes for 4am or 4.30am, and I know of one that's went for a 4.45am OPENING!!! with a few going for a 6am opening. At the end of the day, the individual licensee has to decide that it makes commercial sense to be open and to put his case to a Licensing Board. The usual applications seem to centre around "FOR THE BENEFIT OF TOURISTS & SHIFT WORKERS." What seems to be happening is exactly what every Street-Cop" in The UK predicted (based on years of not interfering with licensee's lock-ins): folk can now stay out and socialise until they get tired and WANT to go home, rather than everyone being TOLD to go home before they were ready! What's wrong with allowing a little self-determination? If you treat people like adults then they'll generally act like adults. If you treat them like children, then they'll act like children. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
