AdD 1 #26 January 3, 2006 I see a pattern developing. Iraq threatens to stop accepting US $ for oil, Iraq gets invaded. Iran threatens to do the same thing, and sure enough... what a farce!Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #27 January 3, 2006 Interestingly, given the present state of Iraq & Afghanistan, I'm starting to see Iran as the "Schwerpunkt" of the region. Invading Iran on 2 fronts (3 if you count the "Plucky Kurdish Freedom-Fighters" as a better ally than Turkey) could very well secure stability for the region. UNFORTUNATELY... it's the same sort of stability that Eastern Europe enjoyed under Stalinism!... Or the stability enjoyed by Iran under The Shah!!! ONLY!... Don't use the "Nuclear WMD" Argument as an excuse; Historically, EVERY leader of a country which has thus far acquired Nuclear Weapons has instantly come to agree 100% with Clauswitz's theories & conditions for war - even if they've never even heard of Clauswitz, let alone read him! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #28 January 3, 2006 Holy Crab, Mike! We're not at Harvard (Clausewitz), you know And who, do you think, will know "Schwerpunkt" ???? You're soooo serious Let's just have some nice chit-chat about funny things, such like invading, shooting, killing..... Surely Clausewitz is doing barrel rolls like a propeller in his grave bwahahaha dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #29 January 3, 2006 Schwerpunkt = focal point There's one word, a German word, that we haven't yet stolen that should be high on our list of targets: schwerpunkt. It means 'focal point' or 'concentration of effort point' or 'central point of attack.' It's a beautiful word because it expresses an idea that we just don't have in English: the notion that, in any effort, you may have many necessary tasks, but there is one central task that must take precedent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #30 January 3, 2006 Quote Schwerpunkt = focal point There's one word, a German word, that we haven't yet stolen that should be high on our list of targets: schwerpunkt. It means 'focal point' or 'concentration of effort point' or 'central point of attack.' It's a beautiful word because it expresses an idea that we just don't have in English: the notion that, in any effort, you may have many necessary tasks, but there is one central task that must take precedent. Um, in military leadership school, it's called "Maintenance of the objective". More syllables, same idea."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,661 #31 January 3, 2006 Quote Schwerpunkt = focal point There's one word, a German word, that we haven't yet stolen that should be high on our list of targets: schwerpunkt. It means 'focal point' or 'concentration of effort point' or 'central point of attack.' It's a beautiful word because it expresses an idea that we just don't have in English: the notion that, in any effort, you may have many necessary tasks, but there is one central task that must take precedent. What is wrong with "focus"? Focus (noun): ... the concentration of attention or energy on something; maximum clarity or distinctness of an idea;... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #32 January 3, 2006 Nothing is "wrong" with focus. Focal point is the translation ofSchwerpunkt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #33 January 3, 2006 http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=focus Works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,661 #34 January 3, 2006 QuoteNothing is "wrong" with focus. Focal point is the translation ofSchwerpunkt. Give an example of a sentence in English where "focus" (noun) could NOT be used in place of "focal point".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #35 January 3, 2006 The Ford Focus is the focal point of our family driving experience..... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,661 #36 January 3, 2006 QuoteThe Ford Focus is the focal point of our family driving experience..... Ummm - didn't they teach you about common nouns and proper nouns? Did you go to a comprehensive school?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #37 January 3, 2006 You are comparing apples to oranges. Schwerpunkt literally translates to "Focal Point". I never said that focus could not be used. The previous poster wanted to know if anyone else knew what schwerpunkt meant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #38 January 3, 2006 yet again, a thread is ruined by nitpicking Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #39 January 3, 2006 This is exactly why I never try to teach a pig to sing...it annoys the pig and wastes my time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #40 January 3, 2006 Quoteyet again, a thread is ruined by nitpicking You forgot to capitalize the first letter of the sentence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #41 January 3, 2006 Quote Holy Crab, Mike! ... who, do you think, will know "Schwerpunkt" ???? 5 so far... and counting! I think that "Schwerpunkt conveys so much more than "Focal Point". It's also the "Centre of Gravity", "Pivot", "Fulcrum". It nicely describes a concept that's just not available in less than 19 English words. So... We're stealing "Schwerpunkt"! While we're there, we'll have "Schardenfreude" as well. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #42 January 3, 2006 QuoteReports on Fox News that Nato is planning to attack Iran to wipe out their Nucular weapons program.... I just realized...you type like Dubya talks.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #43 January 3, 2006 Schadenfreude... malicious joy; malicious glee; gloating; gloating joy; gloat; Schadenfreude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #44 January 3, 2006 QuoteQuote Holy Crab, Mike! ... who, do you think, will know "Schwerpunkt" ???? 5 so far... and counting! I think that "Schwerpunkt conveys so much more than "Focal Point". It's also the "Centre of Gravity", "Pivot", "Fulcrum". It nicely describes a concept that's just not available in less than 19 English words. So... We're stealing "Schwerpunkt"! While we're there, we'll have "Schardenfreude" as well. Mike. ... Not to mention the "point of main effort" !! And see, we're back on topic Now, it quickly should be decided when to send the marines or the allies or or... before this Iranian bastard is giving the command to make a glass covered parking lot out of Dresden Mike (btw): We still write it Schadenfreude - but feel free to steal and use it as you like (as you already did with "kindergarten") Aaarghh... it's "Kindergarten"! How I love those capital letters - they are so different Christel dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #45 January 3, 2006 Why certainly..... I attended a grammar school (not that it's all that obvious)... Plus, you just asked for a noun. Your didn't request a specific flavour... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #46 January 3, 2006 Schwerpunkt: Fulcrum. Not only is it almost a literal translation, but it describes that point or action that'll swing the whole campaign. There's no real literal translation that conveys the concept so succinctly. Now. on to Schardenfreude (the joy felt on seeing the discomfort of others). Since we've appropriated these words and adopted them as English (call it War Reparations), WE'LL decide how they're spelled. You'll just have to change YOUR dictionaries! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #47 January 3, 2006 Invade Iran? Like that is a good idea. It will make the invasion of Iraq look like a picnic by comparison.<<<<< Agreed, we need to let Isreal deal with bombing Iranian reactor sights, no invasion, and save our American forces for N.Korea. We are already occuping lands to the east and west of Iran. They can't run far._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #48 January 3, 2006 ..... Now. Oon to Schardenfreude (the joy felt on seeing the discomfort of others). Since we've appropriated these words and adopted them as English (call it War Reparations), WE'LL decide how they're spelled. You'll just have to change YOUR dictionaries! Quote Fixed it for you Oh, the joy felt on seeing the ..... Hey now! Still reparations? Need money, Islander? Since our Angela pressed down European payments to your Tony? That's no fine style ... Ya know, my favourite dictionary is Cassell's (as well as the technical version), revised by H. T. Betteridge, formerly senior lecturer in German in the university of Glasgow. You think he would change it? Your PM Scoop was right: Nitpicking should end. Let's decide on Iranian affair, as in our news today I read that GWB's actual opinion polls are quite deep under sea level (of Holland) dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #49 January 3, 2006 Quote..... Now. Oon to Schardenfreude ... Fixed it for you Oh, the joy felt on seeing the ..... Mike. ========================== PS. If Scoop can't keep up with the conversational flow...! Invading Iran will fill the gap between Iraq & Afghanistan nicely. STRICTLY within the reasoning which makes sense of occupying Iraq & Afghanistan, it's the smart and logical thing to do. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #50 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteReports on Fox News that Nato is planning to attack Iran to wipe out their Nucular weapons program.... I just realized...you type like Dubya talks.... It was a copy and paste, but thanks for noticing smartass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
miked10270 0 #49 January 3, 2006 Quote..... Now. Oon to Schardenfreude ... Fixed it for you Oh, the joy felt on seeing the ..... Mike. ========================== PS. If Scoop can't keep up with the conversational flow...! Invading Iran will fill the gap between Iraq & Afghanistan nicely. STRICTLY within the reasoning which makes sense of occupying Iraq & Afghanistan, it's the smart and logical thing to do. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #50 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteReports on Fox News that Nato is planning to attack Iran to wipe out their Nucular weapons program.... I just realized...you type like Dubya talks.... It was a copy and paste, but thanks for noticing smartass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
peckerhead 0 #50 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteReports on Fox News that Nato is planning to attack Iran to wipe out their Nucular weapons program.... I just realized...you type like Dubya talks.... It was a copy and paste, but thanks for noticing smartass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
