ChasingBlueSky 0 #26 September 22, 2004 Quotedid Iraq have a direct connection with 9/11". Accroding to the 9/11 report. No._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #27 September 22, 2004 QuoteReading through the posts it seems many people DIRECTLY connect 9/11 with the Iraq war. Just wanted to get an idea of what people think. There is a double negative in the second option which makes it the same as the first option in the poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #28 September 22, 2004 QuoteQuotedid Iraq have a direct connection with 9/11". Accroding to the 9/11 report. No. But what do the 9/11 commissioners know? Bunch of pinko-liberal know-nothings! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #29 September 22, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotedid Iraq have a direct connection with 9/11". Accroding to the 9/11 report. No. But what do the 9/11 commissioners know? Bunch of pinko-liberal know-nothings! There were republicans on that bench as well. Maybe GW used the Kevin Bacon game to prove the connection?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #30 September 22, 2004 It's "The War on Terrorism." Not simply "The War against Al-Qaida." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #31 September 22, 2004 Quote There are many connections between nine eleven, Al Quaeda and Iraq. Just to get you started... 1. Nine and Iraq both have 4 letters 2. eleven and Saddam both have 6 letters 3. Al Quaeda and Iraq. Coincidence? Unlikely. Any more spring to mind? That is really one convincing explanation to me. Now I understand. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 September 22, 2004 QuoteQuote It all goes back to ideology. They fundamentally hate us. Most of them. Who are you refering to when you say "them"? Iraqis or terrorists? They are not the same people you know. I do agree that the UN should have done much more and it did fail. It's a pity we couldn't invest our time and money into getting the UN to do a proper job instead of getting into a war which divides people even further. The U.N. is largely comprised of a bunch of tin-pan dictators who identified, sympathized with and supported Saddam Hussein. Many of them do not share the U.S. ideology of democracy world-wide and therefore had every reason to continue to stall and not enforce their own resolutions. The U.S. should move the U.N. to Switzerland or some other nuetral country and should seriously consider ending support for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #33 September 22, 2004 QuoteWho are you refering to when you say "them"? Iraqis or terrorists? They are not the same people you know. I’m referring to Muslim extremists. I am aware that all Iraqis aren’t necessarily terrorists. Thanks for the clarification. QuoteI do agree that the UN should have done much more and it did fail. It's a pity we couldn't invest our time and money into getting the UN to do a proper job instead of getting into a war which divides people even further. When diplomacy fails, war is sometimes necessary. Just because the UN is broken doesn’t mean that we should just sit back and take shit until it gets fixed. They had their chance to step up to the plate and, in cowardly fashion, they did not. I agree. It is a “pity.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #34 September 22, 2004 One of your poll options; Quote I'm from the USA and do NOT believe Iraq was not connected to 9/11 contains a double negative. Removing the second "not" would make the question more clear.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #35 September 22, 2004 Um, choices 1 and 2 are the same. 2 is a double negative, and I read that one first, so I voted for it. But I think I actually meant to vote for number 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 September 22, 2004 QuoteUm, choices 1 and 2 are the same. 2 is a double negative, and I read that one first, so I voted for it. But I think I actually meant to vote for number 1. This is starting to remind me of the Florida Elections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #37 September 22, 2004 How long is long enough before it becomes ridiculous? *** Good point. Are they next in line? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #38 September 22, 2004 QuoteHow long is long enough before it becomes ridiculous? *** Good point. Are they next in line? I see a bunch of "calls on", "urges", "deplores", "declares invalid", and "condemns" but I don't see much "do and comply with the world's demands or there will be serious consequences." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #39 September 22, 2004 I see a bunch of "calls on", "urges", "deplores", "declares invalid", and "condemns" but I don't see much "do and comply with the world's demands or there will be serious consequences."*** Exactly my point. iraq for 12 years was at that level. Then the "serious consequences" bit emerged. But the whole "we've been waiting for 12 years for him to comply" thang should apply across the board to all resolutions and all countries then... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #40 September 22, 2004 QuoteI see a bunch of "calls on", "urges", "deplores", "declares invalid", and "condemns" but I don't see much "do and comply with the world's demands or there will be serious consequences."*** Exactly my point. iraq for 12 years was at that level. Then the "serious consequences" bit emerged. But the whole "we've been waiting for 12 years for him to comply" thang should apply across the board to all resolutions and all countries then... You're just trying to shift focus from the issue at hand. It doesn't invalidate the point that Iraq needed to comply with the world's wishes or else deal with the consequences. He chose the latter. So be it. There has to be justice in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #41 September 22, 2004 You're just trying to shift focus from the issue at hand. It doesn't invalidate the point that Iraq needed to comply with the world's wishes or else deal with the consequences. He chose the latter. So be it. There has to be justice in the world. *** But once again, justifying going to war solely on the fact that he violated UN resolutions for 12 years is meaningless. Or should be applied evenly to other countries. Otherwise, it is not a valid reason. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Skydiver 0 #42 September 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteReading through the posts it seems many people DIRECTLY connect 9/11 with the Iraq war. Just wanted to get an idea of what people think. There is a double negative in the second option which makes it the same as the first option in the poll. Balls! How did that creep in? Why wasn't it noticed before? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #43 September 23, 2004 QuoteBut once again, justifying going to war solely on the fact that he violated UN resolutions for 12 years is meaningless. Or should be applied evenly to other countries. Otherwise, it is not a valid reason. NO NO NO!!! That completely fucks up the 'we gave them 12 years' argument, so leave it alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #44 September 23, 2004 QuoteBut once again, justifying going to war solely on the fact that he violated UN resolutions for 12 years is meaningless. Or should be applied evenly to other countries. Otherwise, it is not a valid reason. Well the UN SHOULD apply it evenly... Proof again that the UN is crap."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #45 September 23, 2004 QuoteQuoteBut once again, justifying going to war solely on the fact that he violated UN resolutions for 12 years is meaningless. Or should be applied evenly to other countries. Otherwise, it is not a valid reason. Well the UN SHOULD apply it evenly... Proof again that the UN is crap. Exactly... Simply proof positive, tested over a long period of time, that the UN is a worthless, weak, and ineffective organization. And the liberals want to make the US subservient to them so that we have to ask their permission to do anything and also put them in charge of the war in Iraq. Doesn't take a genius to foresee how effective that would be. I had to serve under the UN for a period of time in Haiti. We all see how that turned out. Oh…sorry. That was touted as a “success story” for Clinton. My bad... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #46 September 23, 2004 QuoteI had to serve under the UN for a period of time in Haiti. We all see how that turned out. Oh…sorry. That was touted as a “success story” for Clinton. My bad Funny my unit was sent to Haiti in 1999...So much for a success story. I was in a Military school at the time, but my buddies told me that was a hell hole. The UN did a great job there The UN has shown time after time that they are unable and unwilling to do anything about anything. Even when it is right in their face."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #47 September 23, 2004 QuoteFunny my unit was sent to Haiti in 1999...So much for a success story. I was in a Military school at the time, but my buddies told me that was a hell hole. The UN did a great job there The UN has shown time after time that they are unable and unwilling to do anything about anything. Even when it is right in their face. I got there in February 95. The UN took over in March. As soon as we were put under UN control, most of our vital resources (i.e. vehicles that could stand the terrain) were taken away and we weren’t left much to do the job. I really got the feeling, especially from the foreign troops that they were there, that they were just there to show a presence and to get paid. It had not shit to do with what needed to be done. My team, as were most, was located in a remote place. Our compound was defended pretty well despite what we had to turn in due to being under UN control (some of our heavy weapons) but it could have eventually been overrun due to the sheer numbers that the Haitians had. Amazingly, a couple months later, we were told to take down our triple standard concertina barrier protection because the UN, in their infinite wisdom, said that it posed too much of a defensive posture and that we were there to display peace and harmony. Nothing pissed me off worse than that except for maybe having to wear their queer looking blue baseball caps. We facilitated their first democratic election which “of course” Aristide won. Despite the fact that many government buildings and voting stations were burned to the ground during the election. It was wonderful. I can’t think of a better solution for that place than to burn the whole thing to the ground. But it was a “success story” for Bill Clinton and the Democrat administration of the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
